Gravenberch

[Carvalho Diablo]

He's no Henderson.

[Captain Turdseye]

Not writing Endo off for a second. All the signs are pointing towards a cult hero.  Two players for every position is usually fine but football is too demanding now to only have six midfielders. 
 

Szoboszlai - Elliot

Mac Allister - Gravenberch

Endo/Andre

Throw in Curtis, who’s arguably in the best XI at the minute, then there’s Bajcetic and not much else. No point counting Thiago, he’ll only play for us a few more times before he’s gone next year. Bajcetic is still almost totally unproven so I’d be looking to replace Thiago’s place in the squad with another CM next summer even with Andre on board.  

[LFC 6 Times]

Obvious this guy was gonna be a hit. Got absolutely bags of talent, we’ve got a gem here. Thanks Munich.

[Pungkoq Hang]

42 minutes ago, LFC 6 Times said:

Obvious this guy was gonna be a hit. Got absolutely bags of talent, we’ve got un gem here. Thanks Munich.

*Shudders*

[Daisy]

I like him

[Carvalho Diablo]

He's Gravy

[TheHowieLama]

2 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

He's Gravy

 

Yep - been callin him Gravy Boat.

[Red Shift]

22 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

Makes the Endo signing on a 4 year deal even more baffling.  

If he’s the new ‘Milner’ expect him to get shifted around.

[Barrington Womble]

I didn't enjoy gravenberch's performance today. He spent too much time throwing his arms in the air moaning and he's consistently blowing out of his arse by 60 mins. His work rate 2nd half was just awful. He needs to improve his fitness and learn a little humility and realise even when you're playing teams like Fulham, you have to fight for your win. 

[Turkish Delight]

9 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I didn't enjoy gravenberch's performance today. He spent too much time throwing his arms in the air moaning and he's consistently blowing out of his arse by 60 mins. His work rate 2nd half was just awful. He needs to improve his fitness and learn a little humility and realise even when you're playing teams like Fulham, you have to fight for your win. 

 

My main observation today was on his passing. About 4 or 5 times he had the ball and had a simple passing option where putting the ball in front of one of our players would either create a chance or open up space in attack.

 

Each time his played it underhit and behind the man attempting to play to feet. It was such a basic thing to get wrong so often.

[Barrington Womble]

4 hours ago, Turkish Delight said:

 

My main observation today was on his passing. About 4 or 5 times he had the ball and had a simple passing option where putting the ball in front of one of our players would either create a chance or open up space in attack.

 

Each time his played it underhit and behind the man attempting to play to feet. It was such a basic thing to get wrong so often.

 

I don't think he was unique in that to be honest. I thought as a team our passing was poor and mostly unforced errors. Players have bad days, but it's how you get through it for me. Most of the lads out there showed the right attitude, even if they lacked the correct application on the day. I just couldn't be doing with the number of times he was just stood throwing his arms around while the game went the other way. That coupled with his clear.issue with fitness really concerns me. Maybe his fitness is so off it, we have to just accept it for what it is this season and he has to be managed. But when he's on the pitch for his 60 mins or whatever, he needs to ensure he contributes throughout and not spend time crying and standing still every time something doesn't go his way. 

 

I also think in terms of our rhythm, that break for Leno to get treatment I don't think helped us - that was more than 6 minutes. It was fucking freezing out there and I think we'd come out looking quite sharp, but we were never quite the same after that break. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I also think in terms of our rhythm, that break for Leno to get treatment I don't think helped us - that was more than 6 minutes. It was fucking freezing out there and I think we'd come out looking quite sharp, but we were never quite the same after that break. 

Same for the crowd.  The atmosphere was really good until then and didn't warm up again until towards the end.

[Scott_M]

I had no problem with Gravenberch yesterday. 
 

Appreciate a few dodgy passes, I thought on the whole he was positive and his ability to run with the ball from midfield is something we’ve missed.

[bossy]

I like him but he seems to only have about 45 minutes in him.

[Section_31]

He's like a not shit, Stretch Armstrong version of Keita. 

[Jairzinho]

Sometimes he picks the ball up and drives forward like Bellingham. He's like Bellingham, without the scoring loads of goals bit.

[sir roger]

Lots of lovely vignettes, but doesn't impact games enough at this stage. Only a baby yet though.

[Carvalho Diablo]

2 hours ago, sir roger said:

Lots of lovely vignettes, but doesn't impact games enough at this stage. Only a baby yet though.

Exactly, he's only a kid. Very easy to forget just how young he is.

 

He's doing more than fine.

[Brownie]

I thought he was awful yesterday.

 

No concerns about him though, he‘s gonna rule.

[3 Stacks]

He's been dominant in the Europa League and crap in the prem, which is basically who he has been. Can see the talent, but has to take a step eventually and that's uncertain.

[Rushies tash]

I think he's struggling with the physical demands of this league. Not surprising given his lack of football. Seen enough of him to know that once his fitness levels are up to the job, he's going to be ace.

[Elite]

Big clubs such as Bayern don't usually get rid of top talent, especially in his age range. Hopefully he proves them wrong.

[VladimirIlyich]

He looks the part but he hasn't quite shown it yet. He needs to look to Gakpo for how to put it all together and make it click. I think having the likes of Gakpo from the bench is a hell of a luxury to have and I can see that with Gravenberch until it comes together for him,

[VladimirIlyich]

1 minute ago, Elite said:

Big clubs such as Bayern don't usually get rid of top talent, especially in his age range. Hopefully he proves them wrong.

It's why Klopp would not manage Bayern.

[Elite]

2 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

It's why Klopp would not manage Bayern.

Because they sold Gravenberch?