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1 hour ago, SasaS said:

So you want him out? After public protests. Like, in a "coup"?

 

Nope, him stepping down would've been good though.

 

It's not like the Ukraine, where US politicians meet the protesters, the CIA are in support and a load of violent neo-Nazis stage a coup, then countries all over Europe support them and a US backed government arrives, a batallion of neo-Nazis are admitted to the armed forces, loads of weapons are shipped in then NATO (who've admitted actual Nazi's into high positions several times in their past) start crying every time the bunch of fascist shithouses running the country look like they're under threat.

 

Fortunately things turned out nothing like that.

 

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

It's not about not complying. It's pretty simple; don't try to hold a city hostage for 3 weeks for dubious reasons. They let it go for as long as they could until they simply had to get rid of these people. 

 

It was about compliance and it still is. And freezing bank accounts, and militarised police that quickly caused more voilence than the protesters did in weeks. And emergency measures that are still in place, and a media throwing out propaganda every day to cover for the gov.

 

Trudeau never made any sign that he was willing to listen to the demands of the protesters, never tried any type of compromise, just treated them like terrorists. Then called in the militarised police and they were violently removed.

 

It's compliance or force. Something in common with fascism.

 

Trudeau has no problem shipping weapons in to Ukraine though, or his government being stacked with WEF-aligned goons. More than a few flags being waved in Ukraine as the problem there and he knows that. He's a fucking fraud that quickly turned to fascist measures and now his government is a joke.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/22/new-uganda-law-to-impose-fines-on-those-who-refuse-covid-vaccine

 

22 Feb 2022
 

Uganda plans to impose fines on people who refuse to be vaccinated against COVID-19 and those who fail to pay could be sent to prison under an amendment of a public health law currently being reviewed in Parliament.

 

Health Minister Jane Ruth Aceng told lawmakers on Monday that the amendment is important to repeal the obsolete provisions, revise the fines for offences committed and protect citizens.

 

“The bill has a section on vaccination and immunisation as a public health measure to protect the vulnerable,” she said. “When we introduce new vaccines, we need to get a mass of people so we create mass immunity. It is important that whoever is supposed to be vaccinated, is vaccinated.”

 

The East African country started administering COVID-19 vaccines nearly a year ago, but only about 16 million jabs have been administered in a population of 45 million. Officials are blaming widespread reluctance for the low coverage.

 

This has led to the Parliament’s Health Committee scrutinising the Public Health (Amendment) Bill 2021, which seeks to make coronavirus vaccination mandatory.

 

The new law proposes a fine of 4 million Ugandan shillings ($1,139) for those who fail to get vaccinated.

 

“According to the proposal, those who do not get vaccinated against COVID-19 will be fined 4 million shillings or [receive] a jail term of six months,” Parliament said in a statement on its website.

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18 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Nope, him stepping down would've been good though.

 

It's not like the Ukraine, where US politicians meet the protesters, the CIA are in support and a load of violent neo-Nazis stage a coup, then countries all over Europe support them and a US backed government arrives, a batallion of neo-Nazis are admitted to the armed forces, loads of weapons are shipped in then NATO (who've admitted actual Nazi's into high positions several times in their past) start crying every time the bunch of fascist shithouses running the country look like they're under threat.

 

Fortunately things turned out nothing like that.

 

 

It was about compliance and it still is. And freezing bank accounts, and militarised police that quickly caused more voilence than the protesters did in weeks. And emergency measures that are still in place, and a media throwing out propaganda every day to cover for the gov.

 

Trudeau never made any sign that he was willing to listen to the demands of the protesters, never tried any type of compromise, just treated them like terrorists. Then called in the militarised police and they were violently removed.

 

It's compliance or force. Something in common with fascism.

 

Trudeau has no problem shipping weapons in to Ukraine though, or his government being stacked with WEF-aligned goons. More than a few flags being waved in Ukraine as the problem there and he knows that. He's a fucking fraud that quickly turned to fascist measures and now his government is a joke.

He is a fraud. Calling him a fascist or anything he did fascism, is laughable and hysterical.

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1 hour ago, polymerpunkah said:

The mistake they made was attempting to shut down the border.

 

Blocking a few streets is one thing--but a significant chunk of our economy relies on eg the Ambassador Bridge between CA and the US (and our economy as a whole is highly integrated with that of the US); shutting it down isn't peaceful protest, it's economic sabotage, and no government could or should allow it to happen.

 

If they wanted to legitimately do something as drastic as shut down the economy in order to force the government to change policy, they should have called for eg. a general strike. Something which reflects the actual mood of the people of the country.

 

It would have gone nowhere, of course, as their support anywhere but in small pockets across the country is non-existent.

 

He shouldn't have brought in the policy in the first place. Why would you ban truckers if they don't get the vaccine? It has no bearing on anything. These people are not treating sick people in hospitals.

 

Trudeau has now taken to freezing people's bank accounts for funding the protest (or being involved in it in any way). It's not illegal to fund a political party or movement. Imagine funding the Labour party and then Boris Johnson just wigs out one day and decides to freeze your bank account indefinitely for it. No money for food, to pay rent or to live. It's insanity.

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6 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

He shouldn't have brought in the policy in the first place. Why would you ban truckers if they don't get the vaccine? It has no bearing on anything. These people are not treating sick people in hospitals.

 

Trudeau has now taken to freezing people's bank accounts for funding the protest (or being involved in it in any way). It's not illegal to fund a political party or movement. Imagine funding the Labour party and then Boris Johnson just wigs out one day and decides to freeze your bank account indefinitely for it. No money for food, to pay rent or to live. It's insanity.

He's treating them like domestic terrorists of sorts, which if you lived in Ottawa, you might understand a little. It's heavy handed, yes, but it's been a terrible few weeks for the city. 

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It will be interesting to see what happens going forward.

 

50 years ago Trudeau's father invoked the much more draconian War Measures Act (suspension of habeus corpus, deployment of soldiers, etc) in the face of a much more violent threat from terrorists calling for Quebec separation. When asked how far he'd go he famously responded "just watch me".

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

 

He went on to govern, off and on, for the next 15 years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10539871/French-No-1-Gael-Monfils-blames-adverse-reaction-Covid-booster-recent-withdrawals.html

 

French No 1 Gael Monfils blames adverse reaction to Covid booster for his recent withdrawals, with 35-year-old citing 'health glitch' as compatriot Jeremy Chardy also struggles after getting vaccinated last summer

Gael Monfils has revealed his withdrawal from recent tournaments is due to a probable adverse reaction to his third dose of coronavirus vaccine.

 

The Frenchman has not played since a one-sided loss to Swede Mikael Ymer in Montpellier three weeks ago and will not represent his country in Davis Cup next week.

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https://www.si.com/soccer/manchestercity/news/sergio-aguero-reveals-threat-of-heart-attack-prior-to-retirement-and-discusses-uncertainty-over-covid-vaccine-or-virus-impact

 

Sergio Aguero Reveals Threat of Heart Attack Prior to Retirement and Discusses Uncertainty Over Covid Vaccine or Virus Impact

"I could easily have had a heart attack. We still don't know what happened to me and why. It's a long process where I have to see what I had. Perhaps COVID, the vaccine, I don’t know”, he explained.
 
The latest revelations certainly point to the extreme nature of the former Argentina international's health condition, who recently stated in a Twitch stream that he struggles for breath when he now tries to play football.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/video/receiving-vaccinations-part-social-contract-211731241.html

 

Receiving vaccinations ‘is part of the social contract we sign up for’ in communities: Doctor

 
CALVIN SUN: I mean, they require like 50 million shots when I was growing up. And I just got boosted for like half of them the last four or five years alone. So I think it's probably going to be required for the safety of the community. That's the social contract we signed up for. You have to pay your taxes, even though you may not agree where your taxes are going to. Therefore if you don't agree with the vaccine schedule of the children, you might as well not pay the taxes that create the vaccine schedule in the first place to protect the community as a whole. That's a social contract.
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