Curtis Jones

[TD_LFC]

7 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

If he was already at Villa, would anybody argue we should get him?

 

No, but he's not.

[No2]

2 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

If he was already at Villa, would anybody argue we should get him?

Jacob Ramsey is 21 and has played 79 games (some on loan at Doncaster). That's 2 fewer than Curtis has in a side winning big trophies with better players in front of him. So to answer your question, yes people would want him just like they want Ramsey. 

[an tha]

Timing seems odd to me.

 

I believe he had 2 and a half years left on deal he was on....Surely we could have waited a while before handing him a new one?

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

2 hours ago, an tha said:

Timing seems odd to me.

 

I believe he had 2 and a half years left on deal he was on....Surely we could have waited a while before handing him a new one?

 

 

Ripe to sell. Lessons being learnt.

[Megadrive Man]

9 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

If he was already at Villa, would anybody argue we should get him?

Depends how well he was playing at Villa?

 

I did wonder if Gerrard might try and take him on loan when he was manager as he seemed to get the best out of him at youth level.

 

Going forward I'd like to see Jones given an opportunity as a false 9 here. In a 4-3-3 formation that would arguably be his best position, as it would allow him a bit more freedom than he has playing in midfield.

[TD_LFC]

You don't have to rate him you just have to understand that you can't have a squad full of top top quality starting calibre players (1 through 25) whether it's for domestic/European squad registration reasons or team make up (unless you're one of THOSE clubs).

 

 

[TD_LFC]

7 hours ago, No2 said:

Jacob Ramsey is 21 and has played 79 games (some on loan at Doncaster). That's 2 fewer than Curtis has in a side winning big trophies with better players in front of him. So to answer your question, yes people would want him just like they want Ramsey. 

I think the difference between/problem with the Ramsay and Jones comparison is that Ramsey has a more clearly defined role and you can see how that would translate to our system. I'm not completely sure where Jones fits best at the moment.

[Razoray]

3 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

Depends how well he was playing at Villa?

 

I did wonder if Gerrard might try and take him on loan when he was manager as he seemed to get the best out of him at youth level.

 

Going forward I'd like to see Jones given an opportunity as a false 9 here. In a 4-3-3 formation that would arguably be his best position, as it would allow him a bit more freedom than he has playing in midfield.

Nunez, Bobby, Jota and Salah are all ahead of him for the 9 position. Even Ox is probably ahead of him there in Klopp's eyes, going by the last few games

[Mathewbet1]

15 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

If he was already at Villa, would anybody argue we should get him?

Not really, because at best he is a bone average pl player. He might improve of course 

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, Mathewbet1 said:

Not really, because at best he is a bone average pl player. He might improve of course 

'Don't knock average' is something I often say to Mrs VI.

[Barrington Womble]

If Jones can show some fitness, he's an asset to the squad. He hasn't shown yet he can nail down a place, but he's shown plenty of times he has an abundance of talent and his potential is high. But he needs to cut the injuries out, play more and when he does play, be more consistent. He's 21, Henderson for instance has had a fine career here, but most would have bombed him after his first 12 months here when he was 22. 

 

If we decide down the line we don't want to keep Jones or he wants to go elsewhere to play more, there'll be plenty of people in for him and his long contract won't be an issue. 

[El Rojo]

Ox and Keita are surely on their way out, Milner is ancient and Henderson is fading fast. Would be mad not to hang onto Jones, regardless of who we might be bringing in. 

[Red Shift]

On 09/02/2021 at 07:38, liverpoolsno9 said:

I couldn’t find the thread on him so feel free to merge. What’s peoples thoughts on him? There’s quite a few who were right pissed off when he come off yesterday but I was wanting him off. Been arguing with a mate today who said he was by far our best Mid, have to disagree, is it because he had a couple of shots? Because the rest of his game is soooooo slow, like he plays in slow motion. He’s got good feet, but just plays it far too simple and safe, he was supposed to be the most advanced of the Midfielders yesterday but he just doesn’t give us enough, he’s slow as fuck, he never breaks into anything faster than a slow jog. Reminds me of Redknapp in that respect, just trotting around like a fucking peacock. I’m far from Ox’s biggest fan by any stretch but I’d have him in before Curtis, more goal threat, pace on the break and a good shot. 

Maybe he’ll turn into Thiago?

[Red_or_Dead]

4 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Maybe he’ll turn into Thiago?

He's already got his injury record. 

[ZonkoVille77]

If he has any sense he'll leave for a club that doesn't want to neutralise his natural attacking instincts. He's going nowhere under Klopp because he's not a Klopp-style player. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

[johnsusername]

 

Too much, too young. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Could of done with a season long loan spell somewhere over the last few years to get game time. How old is he is playing minutes must be low.

[Lee909]

Sadly he doesn't look any closer to a first team player than when he broke through. Seems one that injuries and getting a change in his position have him second guessing everything he does. We seem to have taken everything he naturally did as a youth player and tried to take it out of him. Think similar will be done to Elliot and Carvalho. 3 players who look like they should be attacking midfielder in a 4231 that don't fit our formation and in Elliot and Jones don't have the pace to play wide in our system

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

10 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

10 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Shaggy and Bieber have let themselves go.

[gkmacca]

7 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Sadly he doesn't look any closer to a first team player than when he broke through. Seems one that injuries and getting a change in his position have him second guessing everything he does. We seem to have taken everything he naturally did as a youth player and tried to take it out of him. Think similar will be done to Elliot and Carvalho. 3 players who look like they should be attacking midfielder in a 4231 that don't fit our formation and in Elliot and Jones don't have the pace to play wide in our system

 

It couldn't possibly be even a tiny bit down to him, could it? He's not being coached by demons, he's being coached by people who want to get the best out of him in a system he's been used to for at least seven years. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

 

Shaggy and Bieber have let themselves go.

tHEY CALL HIM mR bOOMBASTIC

[Carvalho Diablo]

If Jonesy can't start ahead of the incumbent sacks of shite then his agent needs to seriously have a word.

 

No future, no future, no future for you.

[Lee909]

10 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

 

It couldn't possibly be even a tiny bit down to him, could it? He's not being coached by demons, he's being coached by people who want to get the best out of him in a system he's been used to for at least seven years. 

 

He hasn't been playing his new role in the system for 7 years though has he. He played mostly wide left coming through the youth team and they tried converting him into a more central midfielder. The same is being done with Elliot, he played wide right and we are pushing him to play as a right sided midfielder and its obvious so far he struggles physically and doesn't have the pace to get up and down the pitch. We bought Carvalho who played as a 10 and sometimes as wide left for Fulham, we don't play with a 10 and don't play him at all at the moment as he doesn't look physical enough to play through the middle. 

 

Of course some of it is to do with the player but Jones especially has been messed around with his position, injuries haven't helped but not letting him at least go out on loan hasn't helped him at all. He needs games to improve, and isnt getting them here

[Carra_is_legend]

Regardless of the system if he cannot make this team look a little better then he is going to struggle to break in when the team looks better next season.