Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[Rico1304]

It’s almost like self ID is fucking mental. But, that makes you a bigot.  

[Paulie Dangerously]

11 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Some of you are:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/ex-transgender-man-now-wants-14071689.amp

This is just sad. Clearly someone with deep self loathing, if not serious mental illness. Felt bad for them reading it. 

[Total Longo]

9 hours ago, Rick Sanchez C-137 said:

"I just want people to accept me as an alien"

 

Tough shit, no-nips.

hahahahahahaha!

[Rico1304]

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

[Ranxerox]

On 21/04/2021 at 15:26, Bobby Hundreds said:

I think were a fucking ridiculous species.

Agree

 

As soon as we started pushing life expectancy past 25 things started to spiral out of control quite rapidly. 

[Ranxerox]

24 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

Thanks for sharing that was good. 

 

[KMD7]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

Good article that 

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

Fucking amen.

[Rico1304]

It looks like the Maya Foraster case could be decided tomorrow too.  The EHRC has backed her so maybe the judge has heard enough.  She might lose the employment tribunal in the end, but anyone else shouldn’t be fired for referring to an adult male, with a beard and of course a penis, as ‘he’.  

[Moo]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

It's an interesting read.  But what makes this person's definition of sex the definitive one?  A bit more background to their assertion wouldn't go amiss.

[Rico1304]

7 minutes ago, Moo said:

It's an interesting read.  But what makes this person's definition of sex the definitive one?  A bit more background to their assertion wouldn't go amiss.

Are you being serious?  You are questioning the scientific basis for there being two sexes?  
 

Just in case:

 

 

[Moo]

12 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Are you being serious?  You are questioning the scientific basis for there being two sexes?  
 

Just in case:

 

 

I'm not questioning it as such, and I never gave it a second thought until fairly recently.  But people are questioning and give different definitions which I think is probably what the writer refers to as pseudo-science.  If the writer wants to convince the reader that their assertion is the correct one then a bit more background in the article would be welcome.  But maybe the article is not written for the likes of me who never studied biology and couldn't tell you how sex was originally defined, by whom, and why the science behind it can't evolve.

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

I'm not questioning it as such, and I never gave it a second thought until fairly recently.  But people are questioning and give different definitions which I think is probably what the writer refers to as pseudo-science.  If the writer wants to convince the reader that their assertion is the correct one then a bit more background in the article would be welcome.  But maybe the article is not written for the likes of me who never studied biology and couldn't tell you how sex was originally defined, by whom, and why the science behind it can't evolve.

But surely the burden of proof is on the new idea   Anyway, the graphic I posted has the studies to back it up. Click through the Twitter thread for the detail.   As the article says, there’s a noble prize waiting for the person who finds anything different.  

[Moo]

12 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

But surely the burden of proof is on the new idea   Anyway, the graphic I posted has the studies to back it up. Click through the Twitter thread for the detail.   As the article says, there’s a noble prize waiting for the person who finds anything different.  

Well, that Twitter thread isn't the nicest read but that aside the studies cited only go back to 2014.  If the definition of sex is long and well established I personally would be more confident if the citations reflected that.

I've read some convincing arguments for a newer definition and I don't think it helps to just dismiss them as pseudo-science. Instead explain why the previously established definition is still the correct one, not just that it is.

Like I say though, probably not aimed at me, and it's not something I'll lose sleep over so no worries.  Thanks for sharing.

[Rico1304]

7 hours ago, Moo said:

Well, that Twitter thread isn't the nicest read but that aside the studies cited only go back to 2014.  If the definition of sex is long and well established I personally would be more confident if the citations reflected that.

I've read some convincing arguments for a newer definition and I don't think it helps to just dismiss them as pseudo-science. Instead explain why the previously established definition is still the correct one, not just that it is.

Like I say though, probably not aimed at me, and it's not something I'll lose sleep over so no worries.  Thanks for sharing.

The idea on producing those studies is that people can’t say ‘well the research has stopped, we’ve got a new idea’. There are plenty of older studies too. I think the millions of years of reproduction are a bit of proof too.  
 

What are the convincing arguments (peer reviewed) you’ve read? If they name intersex as any proof we are already on thin ice.  

[Rico1304]

This is the person Forstater ‘misgendered’ by referring to them as he. 
 

 

[mars]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

This is the person Forstater ‘misgendered’ by referring to them as he. 
 

 

Was it only the misgendering that led to her dismissal?

[Rico1304]

30 minutes ago, mars said:

Was it only the misgendering that led to her dismissal?

The misgendering apparently led to her colleagues feeling unsafe and bullied. Despite her never mentioning it at work. And it happening after she was sacked. 
 

She thinks men can’t change into women after saying a magic spell which goes something like ‘I’m a woman now’. Or, ‘I’m a woman half the week and a bloke the rest’. 
 

Edit: I suppose it comes down to whether you think that person with the beard and the penis should have the same rights as your mum. 

[Megadrive Man]

On 27/04/2021 at 19:12, Rico1304 said:

This is a good read.  
 

https://thecritic.co.uk/sex-deniers-are-the-new-flat-earthers/

Really good article that.

 

It's another one of these mad ideas that has only gained traction due to the internet/social media. 

 

Wanting to change your sex, fine. Being attracted to the opposite sex, fine. Being asexual, fine. Not having a gender, or identifying as something other than male/female is impossible and it is worrying how much it is becoming accepted in the modern world. 

 

 

[Rico1304]

Canada are a few years ahead of us.  The thing we were told won’t happen seems to be happening quite regularly. Click through for the longer thread. 
 

 

[Rico1304]

Although...

 

 

[Ranxerox]

57 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Canada are a few years ahead of us.  The thing we were told won’t happen seems to be happening quite regularly. Click through for the longer thread. 
 

 

What is the point you are trying to make here? The person isn’t being released because they are trans. 

[Rico1304]

26 minutes ago, scottthecanuck said:

What is the point you are trying to make here? The person isn’t being released because they are trans. 

It’s all the blokes in women’s prisons.  

[Ranxerox]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

It’s all the blokes in women’s prisons.  

Ok fair enough

[Rico1304]

Caitlyn Jenner says boys shouldn’t be in girls sports.  Is the most famous trans person about to be cancelled? She was such a good woman that within months of being one she was the best one that year.