Karen Carney

[Bruce Spanner]

48 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

Nice to see a woman get her own thread on the FF.

 

Oh, catch a load of monsieur woke 2023!

 

In fact we had a thread about Tony's ma as far back as 2010, if I'm not mistaken.

[Red74]

5 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Sue Smith is outstanding. 

The Sue smith who couldn’t separate Ole and Klopp when picking a combined xi. 

[Red74]

Barton’s right. They’re all fucking crap and don’t deserve to be anywhere near this level. They bring nothing to the conversation and are only there because they cried for attention after winning the World Cup. Which none of these gargoyles were anywhere near. 

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, Red74 said:

Barton’s right. They’re all fucking crap and don’t deserve to be anywhere near this level. They bring nothing to the conversation and are only there because they cried for attention after winning the World Cup. Which none of these gargoyles were anywhere near. 

 

That's one take, I s'pose.

[gkmacca]

What gets me about some of the women who are co-commentators is that they try to sound like the worst of the blokes - they lower their voices, shout madly and make idiotic comments. Blokes don't need any help with that - they've been doing it for years. At least find your own style. And if they want to make the male and female games equal, then start using blokes for the women's game. Carney, personally, I find fairly decent - better than some of the men doing the job, but she is better on the radio, when they seem to encourage her to be herself. But the whole self-conscious indulgence is getting ridiculous, from the lipglossed Laura 'Oh, it's all so sexist, even though I'm forever tweeting pics of me in my underwear' Woods to the barking pundits who say nothing beyond 'he'll be disappointed in that' cliche.

[Rushies tash]

6 minutes ago, Red74 said:

The Sue smith who couldn’t separate Ole and Klopp when picking a combined xi. 

 

She's a great commentator, that's all. Her opinion on that occasion may have been wrong, but I've always found her to be pretty spot on with most other things.

[Megadrive Man]

The thing I don't understand is why they put a person that didn't play for that team in that league in the studio as an 'expert' 

 

Carney kept saying tonight about how well Villa had done to go 15 games unbeaten at home, which was downplaying the fact that it was 15 straight wins at home. I remember Emma Hayes calling VVD

Virgil van der dyke previously too. 

Sometimes the male 'experts' make some really daft statements too, Redknapp has made many and so has Paul Merson but they at least played in that league.

 

I'm all for the building of the Woman's game and equality, but I actually think it's a regressive step if you are just putting people in a role purely because they are a woman. To me it's almost patronising them now and it's tokenism.

[ZonkoVille77]

I'm not saying I don't like the women commentating on the men's game but women should never be commentating on the men's game. There's plenty of other shite for them to natter on about. 

[Red74]

I don’t mind the female presenters and imo they’re better than the male equivalent. However, switched over to watch city villa after we played Sheff utd the other night. Martin O’Neill was talking about one of the players using his backside to move players out the way and the girl presenting couldn’t stop giggling like a school girl idiot cos of what he’d just said. Even the ex girl footballer was cringing when looking at her. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

They'll be wanting the vote next.

[George Costanza]

Woods, Logan & Cates are all excellent presenters imo.  Scott is OK but can be a bit annoying.

 

Punditry, her accent fucking annoys me intensly but Hayes is very knowledgeable and provides great insight imo.  Carney is OK, disagree with some of the stuff she says but no worse than many male pundits.  There's another female on TNT I think who is decent but can't remember her name.  Can't stand Sue Smith tbh but she's still marginally better than some of the clowns on Sky.

[No2]

Barton cited one example of female pundits being useless and it turned out he was wrong and she was right.

[Chris]

1 hour ago, lifetime fan said:

No. 

Calm your tiddies, I’m only messin’

[YorkshireRed]

Same as the men. Some good, some not so good.
 

All the females at least seem like they’ve prepared for the job they’re being paid for though.

 

Not sure that’s always the case with the men. 

[gkmacca]

25 minutes ago, George Costanza said:

Woods, Logan & Cates are all excellent presenters imo. 

Woods is just a pair of false eyelashes stuck to a microphone. Only 40 year old virgins could be dazzled by her perfumed inanity.

[gkmacca]

2 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Same as the men. Some good, some not so good.
 

All the females at least seem like they’ve prepared for the job they’re being paid for though.

 

Not sure that’s always the case with the men. 

 

Your first point - 'same as the men' - seems to have shot the foot of your second remark.

[magicrat]

I would rather not have women pundits or commentators involved in the men’s game but I’m pissing into the wind expecting anything will change now . 
I daresay we’re one step away from having guideline quotas on how many women that must be employed. Bet they don’t have them in Saudi Arabia mind 

[George Costanza]

44 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

Woods is just a pair of false eyelashes stuck to a microphone. Only 40 year old virgins could be dazzled by her perfumed inanity.

Nah, shes decent.  She was good on the NFL coverage as well last year for ITV

[Baltar]

Sorry, I don't like any of them on the commentary or punditry. I don't know why they have birds commentating on men's games, it's dreadful. It feels wrong and sounds wrong! There were 2 birds commentating on one of our recent games, it was doing my head in. Awful!

The presenters like our Kelly are fine though. 

[Mudface]

1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

They'll be wanting the vote next.

 

Hooers, mate. All of 'em.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Red74 said:

Barton’s right. They’re all fucking crap and don’t deserve to be anywhere near this level. They bring nothing to the conversation and are only there because they cried for attention after winning the World Cup. Which none of these gargoyles were anywhere near. 

A bit of advice - if ever you think of starting a post with "Barton's right", don't.  He isn't. About anything. Ever.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Red74 said:

Even the ex girl footballer was cringing when looking at her. 

Rico!

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Baltar said:

Sorry, I don't like any of them on the commentary or punditry. I don't know why they have birds commentating on men's games, it's dreadful. It feels wrong and sounds wrong! There were 2 birds commentating on one of our recent games, it was doing my head in. Awful!

The presenters like our Kelly are fine though. 

So, you're saying they should know their place; introducing the men, not commenting on the matches?

 

I heard the two "birds" doing our match and they were no worse than most male commentary teams (and better than some of them).

[Anubis]

Men have been commentating on the women’s game for years.

 

Men have been managing women’s teams for years.

 

The best assistant referee we have in the PL is a woman who almost always calls it right.

 

The issue isn’t punditry, it’s annoying voices, and an inability to shut up because they feel the need fill every second with talk. Calm down, deep breath, and remember silence is golden.

 

Loads of male pundits like Carragher, McManaman, Neville, Beglin, and that tit Richards are equally annoying - both in terms of voices and punditry.

 

Not a single female pundit, however annoying, has me entertaining thoughts of murder in the way that Daren Fletcher does.

 

Amazon’s Stadium FX audio setting was a blessing, and will be sadly missed in future TV deals.

[Anubis]

7 hours ago, Kevin D said:

Nice to see a woman get her own thread on the FF.

Cath’s got one on the FF and GF. And she’s got men sending her loads of money.