Mon 2 Jan 17:30 Brentford vs Liverpool

[Elite]

Perfect mix of aging, under-investment, complacency, lack of hunger and poor organisation.

[halewood pete]

[Red Shift]

32 minutes ago, Red_or_Dead said:

What a load of fucking shite.  I don't know how this can be fixed...

 

 

2 seasons ago, we had a defensive injury crisis. This season we have a striker injury crisis, with a raw new signing having to shoulder the burden, with plenty of help from Mo. If Darwin had put away just half the chances he’s missed, we’d be two places up the table. I know he’s scored 9 goals, but its a low hit rate on his opportunities. 
He’ll come right, but we need those goals now.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Every week we are Sideshow Bob stepping on the garden rakes. Klopp will tell us he's watched the videos knows the rakes are there and what the problem is and the following game we will step on the garden rakes for 90 minutes. Its some seriously weary shit now.

[LFC 6 Times]

Jota and Diaz are big misses too. Diaz provides a lot of intensity and a bit of ingenuity that we’re sorely lacking. Jota has a bit of Mane about him in that he can grab a goal out of nothing and is a real threat in the air. However, his injury record is a massive cause for concern.

[Tj hooker]

The shocking thing is Klopp was getting more out of the shite he inherited all those years ago , obviously something isn't right with the squad right now but to show that level of desire hunger and professional nous is just completely unacceptable for any  Liverpool team .

I'm not buying that Virgil was injured either the look on his face said it all for me he was hooked and didn't like it well no player is bigger than this club .

It's going to take a huge investment in the team to turn this shit show around this season and I honestly think top 4 is well beyond us  now so now FSG Its over to you , do you shit or bust and hope against hope that Jurgen can work the magic once again and drag this team into the top 4 again without some signings. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Konate foul (if it was a foul) shouldn’t have been allowed to happen. It was the 84th minute. It was 2-1. We still had 10 plus minutes to get a point. Just put it out of play instead of trying to go back to the keeper in a ridiculously difficult position and on your weaker foot. There was no real need to try and keep the ball alive and in play with the amount of time that was still left. 
 

It was really poor play from Konate, for me. I sometimes wonder if we need two ball playing centre backs. Just have one who’ll step out into midfield with the ball. Have another one who’ll give it to the ball player and then just defend and play the percentages when that’s not possible. The likes of a Tarkowski, Mee or some other pure defenders don’t take that risk that Konate took. Sometimes you can be a bit too fancy and obsessed by playing football from the back. 

[Red Shift]

7 minutes ago, Elite said:

Perfect mix of aging, under-investment, complacency, lack of hunger and poor organisation.

Can you expand on your comment ‘poor organisation’?

[Lee909]

Jota has missed about 52 games since he got injured in that meaningless champions league game in Dec 2020. 

[Section_31]

1 minute ago, LFC 6 Times said:

Jota and Diaz are big misses too. Diaz provides a lot of intensity and a bit of ingenuity that we’re sorely lacking. Jota has a bit of Mane about him in that he can grab a goal out of nothing and is a real threat in the air. However, his injury record is a massive cause for concern.

 

Don't think Jota will save us to be honest, he's only any good off the bench.

 

We had this in the 90s where we kept hoping this player or that player would ride to the rescue, but the problems were and are systemic.

[liverpoolsno9]

12 minutes ago, Captain Willard said:

I don’t think Klopp actually cares that much anymore. He’s won everything possible, made millions, seen it all before. I remember the old Klopp screaming at the players, running down the touch line, shouting at referees. Now we concede 3 goals and he just stands there grinning. He’s waiting for the German job.  

Jurgen has more goodwill in the bank after what he’s done for us without entitled CUNTS like you questioning him. There’s quite a few raising their heads above the parapet in here today. Just fuck off, get back on Twitter with all the other knee jerk twats. This place was mainly full of decent fans not too long back, looks like it’s attracted a load of glory hunting cunts if this thread is anything to go by. FUCK OFF. Cunt. 

[Elite]

1 minute ago, Red Shift said:

Can you expand on your comment ‘poor organisation’?

From a tactically perspective. We aren't well drilled in the slightest.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

17 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

We didn't look like scoring but it was a foul on Konate all fucking day long. The attacker moved across the back of his legs causing him to stumble. Its the attackers movement that causes Konate leg to hit him. I very much doubt Mo gets away with that

 

 

 

 

The opponent steps on his heel. Difficult to spot for the ref probably, but you wont see a clearer foul. Exactly the kind of thing VAR is there for.

[TD_LFC]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

 

Don't think Jota will save us to be honest, he's only any good off the bench.

 

It'll be far less dispiriting, and far more reassuring, to have a striker you have the vague confidence of scoring a goal with less than three chances on pitch in the team.

 

While it doesn't fix all the issues, scoring a few goals would help.

[Red Shift]

3 minutes ago, Nelly-Matip said:

The Konate foul (if it was a foul) shouldn’t have been allowed to happen. It was the 84th minute. It was 2-1. We still had 10 plus minutes to get a point. Just put it out of play instead of trying to go back to the keeper in a ridiculously difficult position and on your weaker foot. There was no real need to try and keep the ball alive and in play with the amount of time that was still left. 
 

It was really poor play from Konate, for me. I sometimes wonder if we need two ball playing centre backs. Just have one who’ll step out into midfield with the ball. Have another one who’ll give it to the ball player and then just defend and play the percentages when that’s not possible. The likes of a Tarkowski, Mee or some other pure defenders don’t take that risk that Konate took. Sometimes you can be a bit too fancy and obsessed by playing football from the back. 

I don’t think it was a foul, after watching the replay. I think he slipped.

It was a one on one, and that is the issue. The real problem was back on the halfway line where Trent played a very poor pass, getting Naby into trouble, where the ball got pinched and once again, the whole team was caught too far forward. Not for the first time!

[Guest]

A deserved snotting.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

2 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

Jurgen has more goodwill in the bank after what he’s done for us without entitled CUNTS like you questioning him. There’s quite a few raising their heads above the parapet in here today. Just fuck off, get back on Twitter with all the other knee jerk twats. This place was mainly full of decent fans not too long back, looks like it’s attracted a load of glory hunting cunts if this thread is anything to go by. FUCK OFF. Cunt. 

A good post in full.

[torahboy]

1 minute ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

Jurgen has more goodwill in the bank after what he’s done for us without entitled CUNTS like you questioning him. There’s quite a few raising their heads above the parapet in here today. Just fuck off, get back on Twitter with all the other knee jerk twats. This place was mainly full of decent fans not too long back, looks like it’s attracted a load of glory hunting cunts if this thread is anything to go by. FUCK OFF. Cunt. 

 

I fully endorse that post.

[dockers_strike]

We got out of jail on Friday night. After almost making Leicester, who got their arses handed to them by Newcastle, in front of their own fans and, we made look quite good at Anfield, I really thought we'd be up for this. I was wrong.

 

I love Jurgen, he's done incredible things at this club. I dont understand why he and the coaching staff havent addressed the problems in defence. You can pay a heavy price because of too much loyalty to your boys. We look every bit as shaky at the back now as we did before he and Virgil arrived. Maybe they have tried addressing the issues but the players arent listening or capable of doing what's asked any more?

 

It doesnt seem to matter who we have in the back 4, we look as shaky as fuck. And no, it's not just because the midfield is shit or Ox played or Harvey played.

 

Im talking the back 4 cant seem to defend any more and especially at corners. Even with the best midfield in front of them to protect them, I couldnt see this defence keeping a cleansheet. Good luck if others think a whole new midfield solves all the problems, we're sorted and, back to 100 points a season form. But I dont see it.

 

We were all over the shop defending any corner Brentford got. Konate was desparately unlucky the ball came off his shin and left Alli unable to get near it. But even after that, they had the ball in the net twice more only for VAR to correctly rule them out. That, by the way, says a lot to me about the ref tonight. Some fucking weird decisions he didnt spot and like it or not, that's a shove on Konate for the 3rd.

 

But when Brentford did get their 2nd, Trent unfortunately got caught out. Im not blaming him for the 2nd but it happens a little too often. Either coach him to attack the ball better in those situations or, bite the fucking bullet, move him into midfield and put someone who can head a ball at right back.

 

Once again Darwin had a great chance and was unlucky Mee got back to block it. Or, could a bit more composure have made sure the ball ended in the net instead? Tough call, I dont know. What I do know is, you cant keep just saying 'unlucky' on every missed chance or offside goal.

 

He scored a lovely 'goal' a few minutes of the 2nd half restart. Only he'd timed his run wrong and was offside.

 

Ox soon pulled a goal back and I thought he was having a good game, certainly better than his instant detractors on here would give him credit for. That still gave us the best part of 30 minutes to find an equaliser. Against fucking Brentford! We should have been looking for a winner at that stage. Fair play to Brentford. Once again, they shocked us and probably deserved the win for sheer tenacity and effort. But it doesnt sit easy with me that they were better than us.

 

And why the fuck was Mo playing out wide all game again? We seem to have gone back to this Mo on the wing and Darwin down the middle. I dont like it. They seemed to link up well in the first 10 or so minutes but after that?

 

I really dont see us getting past Real in the CL or Wolves in the FAC at this rate and form. 4th is looking a real struggle and we cannot have any more slip ups if we are to nick it.

 

It's not fucking good enough, Jurgen. Sort it out and quickly, please.

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

6 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

The shocking thing is Klopp was getting more out of the shite he inherited all those years ago , obviously something isn't right with the squad right now but to show that level of desire hunger and professional nous is just completely unacceptable for any  Liverpool team .

I'm not buying that Virgil was injured either the look on his face said it all for me he was hooked and didn't like it well no player is bigger than this club .

It's going to take a huge investment in the team to turn this shit show around this season and I honestly think top 4 is well beyond us  now so now FSG Its over to you , do you shit or bust and hope against hope that Jurgen can work the magic once again and drag this team into the top 4 again without some signings. 

I just wish  Klopp had the ruthless streak a lot of the great managers had, no fucking about you are either of use or you are not. Nobody is above criticism so Klopp deserves some but I'd get rid of every single player and everyone associated with the club before Klopp and thats in spite of this weird blindness or refusal to address huge glaring weaknesses in the tactical set up.

[Lee909]

4 minutes ago, Elite said:

From a tactically perspective. We aren't well drilled in the slightest.

 

Agree with this 100%

 

Its clear to see the team doesn't have the legs to play with a high line or press much at all, yet here we are halfway through the season still doing the same shit hoping it will change. How many games more will we still see the fullbacks getting caught up high and the CB having to pull wide causing a overload on the back post. How many times do we need to see Trent asleep at the far post of the midfield either overran or just bypassed by a long ball down the flanks. 

 

Its the same shit each week. It was the same when we had the injury issues and putting Fabinho at the back, for weeks we watch the midfield unable to cope without him and in the end got lucky we didn't leave it any longer before reverting to Williams and Phillips and being more conservative in defence. 

[Red Shift]

3 minutes ago, Elite said:

From a tactically perspective. We aren't well drilled in the slightest.

I think the team is drilled, but the tactics are not as effective, because the execution is poor. A combination of lethargy and confidence.

[Anubis]

Just logged on briefly to say:

 

1. Bumcunt - you referred to a black player as a monkey. It doesn’t matter if you put the word cross in front of it because that shit doesn’t fly in 2023. Have a word with yourself.

 

2. Intensity is our identity? Not any more. Organisation and pressing? Not any more. Carrying on until the very end to dig out a result? Not any more. Maybe the end of last season broke us, but it’s difficult to see how it is fixed.

 

Anyway, Happy New Year y’all. Signing out again.

[Jairzinho]

I'd love to know what Klopp really thinks of the squad he has. 

 

It would be sad to see us not really push to get a few turds out this month and sign one or two players that can actually run. 

[Red Shift]

6 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I just wish  Klopp had the ruthless streak a lot of the great managers had, no fucking about you are either of use or you are not. Nobody is above criticism so Klopp deserves some but I'd get rid of every single player and everyone associated with the club before Klopp and thats in spite of this weird blindness or refusal to address huge glaring weaknesses in the tactical set up.

You can only be ruthless when you have squad options. Klopp could ‘drop’ a lot of players, but a team of youngsters has a hard steep learning curve ahead of it. Could it be worse? Possibly.