Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Creator Supreme]

Just now, TD_LFC said:

 

Sorry I'm late to it but couldn't see it referenced anywhere, that interview with Piers Morgan last night was a fucking car crash when he could have shut it down, given Morgan nowhere to go and then said what he likes about the absolute need for a ceasefire.

I didn't even know he'd been interviewed by Morgan mate.

 

He's better than me, I wouldn't give Morgan the time of day without calling him a cunt every 5 seconds.

 

The cunt.

[Mudface]

Sounds like he's scuppered his chances of becoming PM.

[Jairzinho]

I watched a bit of it. It was just fucking boring, to be honest. 

[Arniepie]

3 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

He doesn't help himself does he...

I'm not sure what he was trying to achieve 

Should have just bingoed the absolute gobshite 

[Jack the Sipper]

 

[Gnasher]

Shadow education minister and member of Labour friends of Israel member Bridget Philipison on Jeremy Corbyn this morning.

 

 

Example of Jeremy Corbyn "refusing to condemn anti semitism' 

 

Philipison obviously doesn't yet realise Israeli propaganda is no longer as believable as it was a few short years ago. 

 

 

 

[Section_31]

Gnasher where do you stand on the fact Bernie Sanders isn't calling for a ceasefire? 

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Gnasher where do you stand on the fact Bernie Sanders isn't calling for a ceasefire? 

 

Disgraceful but he's batting on a sticky wicket. The Israeli lobby rules US politics. Its nor far off ruling ours. Our Labour Party headquarters should be moved to Tel Aviv, Labour is finished as a British party  Akehurst & Co work for Israel.

[Gnasher]

A ghost from Christmas past. Its the old Labour MP and Corbyn slayer Joan Ryan. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

This week Akehurst stated if you are critical of zionist Israel you will not be selected as a Labour MP. Unfortunately he was probably telling the truth.

 

 

 

 

[Jack the Sipper]

This is what winning looks like to a cultist: losing two elections in the space of two years, and giving the country another seven years of Tory government. 

 

Utterly fucking deluded.

 

 

[Section_31]

You don't have to win elections to win elections.

[Gnasher]

You don't win elections when your own side score own goals whilst playing for the other side.

 

Ian Austin received a knighthood from Boris Johnson. 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

"extreme left"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

14 hours ago, Jack the Sipper said:

This is what winning looks like to a cultist: losing two elections in the space of two years, and giving the country another seven years of Tory government. 

 

Utterly fucking deluded.

 

 

They don't claim that that's winning. 

 

Happy to help.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

14 hours ago, Jack the Sipper said:

This is what winning looks like to a cultist: losing two elections in the space of two years, and giving the country another seven years of Tory government. 

 

Utterly fucking deluded.

 

 

Serious question: what do you think happened between a big swing towards Labour (the first in 20 years) in 2017 and the massive defeat in 2019?

[Jack the Sipper]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

They don't claim that that's winning. 

 

Happy to help.

 

Sad to say, Angry, but you're not really helping explain why Momentum would use terms like 'electable', 'voters responded', 'Theresa May humiliated' and, erm, 'Labour won' to describe Labour losing two elections on the spin.

 

They claim Corbyn's Labour were electable, even though they were never elected.

 

They compare Corbyn's Labour favourably to Blair's Labour of 2001, even though the latter won whilst the former lost. 

 

They claim that voters responded to anti-austerity proposals, which means they responded even more favourably to Cameron's austerity measures, May's hostile environment and opposition to Corbyn ever being PM. and Boris fucking Johnson - all of whom were elected.

 

They say that May was 'humiliated', even though she actually got her party more seats than Oh, Jeremy Corbyn won his.

 

If they're not claiming that's winning, they're doing a great job of showing what winning's like. That's like the political version of that Taff's Tavern board.

 

Or maybe they're using the Chomsky definition of 'winning': https://pa.media/blogs/fact-check/the-conservative-party-won-the-2017-general-election/

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Nothing claimed in that tweet is untrue.  Labour had lost votes at every successive election for 20 years and were deemed so unelectable that May thought she could ignore them and use the election to strengthen her hand in the parliamentary Conservative Party. ("Crush The Saboteurs!")  Despite shenanigans in the Labour Party, with people diverting campaign resources to protect safe Centrist seats, rather than to win new seats, the leak of the Manifesto - which promised a break from the same shite we'd had for decades - boosted support for Labour and cost May her majority.

 

The point of that tweet is that the kind of policies which always show well in opinion polls (progressive taxation to tackle inequality, nationalisation of utilities, an end to NHS privatisation, etc.) can also do well at General Elections.

 

Do you deny that?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Incidentally, "electable" and "elected" are not the same thing.  It's why we have different words.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Serious question: what do you think happened between a big swing towards Labour (the first in 20 years) in 2017 and the massive defeat in 2019?

Corbyn threatened heavier taxes on the rich and less burden financially on the working class. The evil cunt. 

[Creator Supreme]

Why are you trying to argue with Sipper? He's obviously Ian Austin so it's a pointless endeavour.

 

Vote Green.

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Serious question: what do you think happened between a big swing towards Labour (the first in 20 years) in 2017 and the massive defeat in 2019?

brexit and  2 years of him being a peace loving terrorist sympathiser.

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However at some point we need to move on and focus on getting these cunts out.

[Arniepie]

20 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Why are you trying to argue with Sipper? He's obviously Ian Austin so it's a pointless endeavour.

 

Vote Green.

I dont always agree with jack but in fairness,the place would be quite boring if we all agreed with everything.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

I dont always agree with jack but in fairness,the place would be quite boring if we all agreed with everything.

Agreed. 

[Jairzinho]

37 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Why are you trying to argue with Sipper? He's obviously Ian Austin so it's a pointless endeavour.

 

Vote Green.

 

That's very harsh. Ian Austin isn't here to defend himself.