Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[mattyq]

3 hours ago, Istvan Kosma said:

Take it you felt the same way about Blair

What a strange and surreal comment

What's a disgraced ex PM got to do with a disgraced ex deputy leader of Liverpool council?

[Pureblood]

22 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Giving everyone a voice is empowering; sadly, the more people speak, the greater the chance you'll think they're a cunt. 

That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me this month. 

[Boss]

Social media was a terrible idea, and everyone should just collectively agree to call the whole thing off. Nobody is immune to saying stupid shit every now and then, and a precedent has already been set where nobody is immune to the consequences.

 

Just imagine a not too distant future where employers and governments use data analysis to scan through all your tweets for offensive things and stop you from: a.) being employed  b.) sack you from your job, or c.) stop you from entering a certain country. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Treat the whole thing as defamation of yourself.

[Rico1304]

13 minutes ago, Boss said:

Social media was a terrible idea, and everyone should just collectively agree to call the whole thing off. Nobody is immune to saying stupid shit every now and then, and a precedent has already been set where nobody is immune to the consequences.

 

Just imagine a not too distant future where employers and governments use data analysis to scan through all your tweets for offensive things and stop you from: a.) being employed  b.) sack you from your job, or c.) stop you from entering a certain country. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Treat the whole thing as defamation of yourself.

A mate of mine works for the MOD in the dept that vets civil servants, spies, etc.  He says we are a couple of years away from being able to do exactly that.  At the moment candidates have to voluntarily give up user names and such, soon it won’t matter. 

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Finkelstein gives absolutely zero fucks. 

 

 

Don't know what he was saying, but the reactions in the crowd ("I've never seen a crowd like this, they're nuts")... who are these people? How can you get hysterical over this?
 

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, Boss said:

Social media was a terrible idea, and everyone should just collectively agree to call the whole thing off. Nobody is immune to saying stupid shit every now and then, and a precedent has already been set where nobody is immune to the consequences.

 

Just imagine a not too distant future where employers and governments use data analysis to scan through all your tweets for offensive things and stop you from: a.) being employed  b.) sack you from your job, or c.) stop you from entering a certain country. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Treat the whole thing as defamation of yourself.

I think Twitter is a whole other level. Facebook is good if used properly, even for celebrities/politics etc because you can build a community around it, Twitter by its very nature negates the possibility of any long conversations or discussions of substance, and it's so fleeting that people who want to be noticed have to do or say something to 'get' noticed. 

 

The anonymity aspect of it also allows people to act in a way they never would in real life. It's absolute and  total shite. In no way should it be taken to be representative of a political view, party of demographic,  to do so is deliberately disengenuous.

 

If a bullet landed on my door mat I'd shit myself, if an Arsenal fan under the pseudonym Pires's_Pants81 said he was going to 'kill me' if I ever ventured down to the smoke again, I can say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't be remotely arsed. 

 

SECTION_31 BOMBARDED WITH VILE DEATH THREATS BY SICK GUNNERS TROLL ARMY!!!! SCOTLAND YARD SAY THEY'RE TAKING IT SERIOUSLY AS ARE THE CLUB!!!

[SasaS]

But if he said it to you on Facebook?

[Denny Crane]

2 hours ago, Boss said:

 

 

I think it's easy to critique social media and point to its failings of exacerbating group think and confirmation bias by focusing on the noisiest minority. I would say though there is something in the wisdom of the crowd, the main difference is there is a lot of noise and many don't self censor. If you can get past that there is some good stuff out there. Historically the internet until fairly recently has operated on the model of peers moderating each other and it worked surprisingly well see TLW. There are a lot of vested interests in censoring and rubbishing the crowd on social media. To some extent behaviour on social media is highly influenced and reflective of the mainstream media and our instinct to be tribal and how politicians and high profile people behave in society.  Social media doesn't sit in a vacuum. Sadly It's almost definitely going to end up needing everyone to register with identification to post on the big social media accounts. Which is a shame as some of the best accounts are anonymous not for trolling or aggressive reasons but whistleblowing or wanting to be private for work and personal reasons. 

[The Guest]

Twitter is brilliant.  The negative aspects are obviously well documented but people now have direct access to the “truth” or whatever truth they choose to believe and it’s down to social media.  It’s much better than getting your news from a select bunch of outlets who could set the agenda.

 

People can criticise it for its “fake news” but it isn’t a new thing.  The problem for governments now is that the fake news is no longer in their control.

[The Woolster]

Page number 666, make of that what you will...

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Rachel Riley is having a bad day on Twitter. Sharing a video which purports to show Jeremy Corbyn "legitimising" Palestinian suicide bombers, when what he's doing is nothing like that. 

 

Thankfully, a lot of the comments are calling her out on her cheap smears. 

[stringvest]

11 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Rachel Riley is having a bad day on Twitter. Sharing a video which purports to show Jeremy Corbyn "legitimising" Palestinian suicide bombers, when what he's doing is nothing like that. 

 

Thankfully, a lot of the comments are calling her out on her cheap smears. 

if he's selling those cheap smears, I hope she wraps them in cling film first

[Barrington Womble]

8 hours ago, Vincent Vega said:

If centreists don't like the direction of the Labour party, why don't they become members? I mean it's only about £3 a month and if enough of them join up they can infuence policy. Maybe there's just not enough people enthused by centreist policies to be bothered, and maybe the centreist MPs are out of step with what the membership and country wants?

Personally I think the majority of the country sits down the middle, but most of them don't give a shit about politics, but they're genuinely afraid of extremism from either the left or right. They want government and politics to be quiet, in the corner, as uncontroversial as possible and deliver them a better standard of living while it's happening. 

[Aventus]

6 hours ago, Boss said:

 

Just imagine a not too distant future where employers and governments use data analysis to scan through all your tweets for offensive things and stop you from: a.) being employed  b.) sack you from your job, or c.) stop you from entering a certain country. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Treat the whole thing as defamation of yourself.

Starting to sound like an episode of black mirror. 

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Personally I think the majority of the country sits down the middle, but most of them don't give a shit about politics, but they're genuinely afraid of extremism from either the left or right. They want government and politics to be quiet, in the corner, as uncontroversial as possible and deliver them a better standard of living while it's happening. 

Spot on. 

[Rico1304]

Ash with a classy bit of Uncle Tomming. 

 

 

[SammyAftershave]

On 2/21/2019 at 7:54 AM, AngryofTuebrook said:

I see the wrong type of Jews have been spreading their anti-Semitic poison in the letters page of the Guardian. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/20/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-crucial-ally-in-fight-against-antisemitism?fbclid=IwAR3bQpLdOaNxGCu7nmwXmVHaIoTph_IXn2I5suRgEINepHU3mouYwh7lUjo

Splitters!

[Hades]

25 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Ash with a classy bit of Uncle Tomming. 

 

 

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.

[Pureblood]

2 minutes ago, Hades said:

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.

You're a vile fucking cunt. 

[Vincent Vega]

56 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Personally I think the majority of the country sits down the middle, but most of them don't give a shit about politics, but they're genuinely afraid of extremism from either the left or right. They want government and politics to be quiet, in the corner, as uncontroversial as possible and deliver them a better standard of living while it's happening. 

 

The Lib Dems should clear up at the next election if that’s the case.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, Hades said:

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.

Whoa there cowboy!  

[skend04]

3 minutes ago, Hades said:

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.

Fucking hell.

[Boss]

I'd like to put those "fucks like a champion" claims to the test.

[SasaS]

6 minutes ago, Hades said:

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.

 

Wikipedia lists Muslim and a Spurs fan under Personal life, no mention of slut.

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Hades said:

Look at her profile. Muslim and a slut. Logic isn't her strongest point.