Lib Dems

[Moo]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Even though they piss me off, I find it baffling how people still stick the boot into them for going into coalition with the tories 10 years ago, but nobody seems to give the tories much shit for being the actual tories. They've won three elections since then, and two majorities, the last one their biggest in decades.

 

"Fucking hate the lib dems, Tory enablers!!!'

 

Oh, who do you vote for?

 

"BORIS!" 

 

Or

 

"I don't vote, they're all the same.'

Surely these aren't the same people?

I'd be amazed at anyone criticising the LDs for going into a Tory coalition, but then voting Tory??  Although nothing to do with politics these days really surprises me.

 

[Gnasher]

5 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Even though they piss me off, I find it baffling how people still stick the boot into them for going into coalition with the tories 10 years ago, but nobody seems to give the tories much shit for being the actual tories. They've won three elections since then, and two majorities, the last one their biggest in decades.

 

"Fucking hate the lib dems, Tory enablers!!!'

 

Oh, who do you vote for?

 

"BORIS!" 

 

Or

 

"I don't vote, they're all the same.'

I think the answer to that is the tories do what it says on the tin. You know what you are going to get and they make no bones about it.

 

The lib dems meanwhile gave the public a load of cast iron pledges which were ditched as soon as nice decent mr clegg smelt the Rose's in number 10. No rise in students fees and no vat rises just two of the promises quickly ditched. They then proceeded to enable a government who went on a destructive period of austerity and massive welfare cuts which resulted in unnecessary hardship and deaths by the poorest peoples of this country.

 

 

I'm not surprised by the lib dem position at all, they are where they deserve to be.

[Strontium]

I'm amazed that Hard Brexit supporter Gnasher is so anti-Lib Dem, who could have foreseen that.

[Gnasher]

Let us not forget 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/blog/2010/jun/22/nick-clegg-vat-poster

[Bjornebye]

His voting record is the voting record of a scum-bag. For that reason alone I hope they crash and burn at the next election. 

 

 

Like they do pretty much every time. 

[Jairzinho]

This Ed Davey fella, does he have views and policies and stuff?

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

I'm amazed that Hard Brexit supporter Gnasher is so anti-Lib Dem, who could have foreseen that.

Just to be clear. Im actually not anti lib dem, I liked Charlie Kennedy and quite like this new lady, Layla Moran? Not sure on her name. 

 

I however detest Clegg and the lib dems that heaped misery on the poorest in society with Cameron and Osborne and that includes new leader Ed Davey.

 

[Bjornebye]

19 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Even though they piss me off, I find it baffling how people still stick the boot into them for going into coalition with the tories 10 years ago, but nobody seems to give the tories much shit for being the actual tories. They've won three elections since then, and two majorities, the last one their biggest in decades.

 

"Fucking hate the lib dems, Tory enablers!!!'

 

Oh, who do you vote for?

 

"BORIS!" 

 

Or

 

"I don't vote, they're all the same.'

Sorry mate but I'm confused by this. I think we have enough threads even on here (actually can there ever be enough?) where the tories get absolutely hammered for being just that. 

[Gnasher]

Just now, Jairzinho said:

This Ed Davey fella, does he have views and policies and stuff?

I hope not, I dread to think.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

This Ed Davey fella, does he have views and policies and stuff?

Yellow tory ones. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

What's his position on Easter eggs and squirrels? 

[Jairzinho]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Yellow tory ones. 

Oh goody. 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Out of interest, who did you vote for @Stront19m Dog™?

[Section_31]

15 minutes ago, Moo said:

Surely these aren't the same people?

I'd be amazed at anyone criticising the LDs for going into a Tory coalition, but then voting Tory??  Although nothing to do with politics these days really surprises me.

 

The Northern seats who voted Tory would have that view I reckon..

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

The Northern seats who voted Tory would have that view I reckon..

Yes but think of the difference in-between. Labour strongholds that switched did so to ensure brexit more than anything else. If Corbyn was firm that Brexit definitely would happen without a 2nd referendum then the outcome would have been a lot different. 10 years is a long-time in politics. 

[Strontium]

11 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Out of interest, who did you vote for @Stront19m Dog™?

 

Ed.

 

I will stress here that I would have been happy with either of them, and that the biggest factor in my vote was Layla's most vocal supporters, who seem to have modelled themselves on Corbynites and Cybernats.

[sir roger]

FFS, 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

Ed.

 

I will stress here that I would have been happy with either of them, and that the biggest factor in my vote was Layla's most vocal supporters, who seem to have modelled themselves on Corbynites and Cybernats.

Interesting. So you were more concerned with what people around them were saying and how they were acting than you were with what they stood for? I guess it'll be interesting to see if Ed Davey can make a mark on the political landscape. 

[Bjornebye]

I suspect Laylas vocal support for Palestinians may have had an effect on a few peoples decisions. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I'm sure that a bloke who couldn't even beat the awful Swinson in the last leadership election will bring back the good times for the Lib Dems. 

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Interesting. So you were more concerned with what people around them were saying and how they were acting than you were with what they stood for? I guess it'll be interesting to see if Ed Davey can make a mark on the political landscape. 

 

Let's just say I am uncomfortable with the attitude of some of her supporters. A bit of cut and thrust is to be expected, but these people need to remember that we're supposed to be on the same side.

 

No third party is likely to make much of an impact while the electoral system remains as is. I do hear Keir Starmer is more open to electoral reform than his predecessors, and I hope the two knights can work together on that.

 

Just now, Bjornebye said:

I suspect Laylas vocal support for Palestinians may have had an effect on a few peoples decisions. 

 

I suspect you haven't got a clue.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

I suspect you haven't got a clue.

Probably but then again, neither have you. 

[sir roger]

BBC 2 @ 7.10 - Lib Dem party political broadcast:

 

Strontium Dog, in his usual guise of Eugene Tooms, introduces his 'One degree of separation to Jeremy Corbyn' game.

[Gnasher]

22 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I suspect Laylas vocal support for Palestinians may have had an effect on a few peoples decisions. 

Steady.

[Gnasher]

22 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I'm sure that a bloke who couldn't even beat the awful Swinson in the last leadership election will bring back the good times for the Lib Dems. 

Well it's made my mind up, I will definitely vote for him. 

 

 

By him I mean almost anyone who Ed Davey is running against.