Donald Trump

[neko]

 

Im not one of these with a foot in the pro or anti Trump camp. Im not American and dont have a vote so whoever the American voters vote for, there's really not a lot I can do about it. I do find it mildly amusing many people on here slag Trump off for his 'sexist' comments especially when you consider we have a summer slags and tits thread on here what with all its mysoginy and destroying her back doors comments.

 

But it is what it is, we're blokes.

 

 

Not sure if anyone on here has aspirations to be the President of the United States though.

[cloggypop]

He's also set up 32 businesses across the globe since winning the election - draining the swamp indeed.

 

Not much sign of Dangerous Dennis Tooth lately.

He's weighing up a cabinet position

[SasaS]

Decent breakdown with annotations of Trump's inauguration speech from the NYT, for the analytically minded.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/donald-trump-inauguration-speech-transcript.html?ribbon-ad-idx=6&src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article&_r=0

[Mook]

Not sure if anyone on here has aspirations to be the President of the United States though.

Speak for yourself.

 

I'm a regular Bill Pullman.

 

[Em City]

 

 

Haha, how's that for silly string, cunt?

[dennis tooth]

He's also set up 32 businesses across the globe since winning the election - draining the swamp indeed.

 

Not much sign of Dangerous Dennis Tooth lately.

Chew on that.

 

 

Trump and the Media 158

21 Jan, 2017 in Uncategorized by craig | View Comments

With no sense of irony, a “liberal” media which rightly excoriates the President of Gambia for failing to accept an election result, continues to do precisely the same thing in the case of Donald Trump. No invective is too strong to be cast against a man whose election the “liberal” media did everything possible to prevent.

 

With the happy resignation of Stephen Daisley, a strong contender for worst journalist in the World is now Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian. He takes the irony to an entirely new level. He claims that Trump will destroy the legacy by which smaller nations “long looked to the US to maintain something close to a rules-based international system.” He completely ignores the fact that the greatest single hammer blow against the rules based international system was delivered by Freedland’s idol Tony Blair, when he supported the invasion of Iraq without a Security Council Resolution and in the specific knowledge that, if the matter of force were properly put to the Security Council, it would not merely meet three vetoes but lose a majority vote.

 

The UN, and the rule of international law, have never recovered from that hammer blow, which Freedland enthusiastically cheered on. Nor has Freedland apparently noticed that the smaller nations rather detest than worship the USA. It has invaded and bombed them, interfered in their elections, supported right wing coups and armies, run destabilising CIA drug rings in them, and armed and even sometimes led dictatorial death squads. Look at all those US Security Council vetoes and the resolutions that never got to a vote because of threatened US vetoes. Look at all those General Assembly votes that were everyone against the USA, Israel and the poor occupied Marshall Islands. Freedland’s hymn to the Pax Americana is a sick joke. For much of the world, a period of American isolationism would be extremely welcome.

 

I am thankfully too clear-headed to like Trump because of the extraordinary campaign of vilification to which he has been subjected. Freedland has no shame about repeating the lie that Trump kept Hitler’s speeches by his bedside. I was in a position to know for sure that the “Russian hacking” elements of the extraordinary “Manchurian candidate” rubbish which the entire establishment threw at Trump was definitively untrue. I had the background and training to see that the Christopher Steele dossier was not only nonsense, but a fake, not in fact produced seriatim on the dates claimed. The involvement of the US security services in spreading lies as intelligence to undermine an incoming President will go down as a crucial moment in US history. We have not yet seen the denouement of that story.

 

But none of that makes Trump a good person. He could be an appalling monster and still be subjected to dirty tricks by other very bad people. There is much about Trump to dislike. His sensible desire for better relations with Russia is matched by a stupid drive to goad China.

 

Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric did tap in to the populist racism which is unfortunately sweeping developed countries at the moment. The very wealthy have succeeded in diverting justified anger at the results of globalisation on to immigrant populations, who are themselves victims of globalisation. By shamelessly tapping in to the deep wells of popular atavism, the elite have managed the extraordinary trick of escaping the wrath their appalling profiteering and extreme levels of wealth should bring. His words on race in his inauguration address were good, but does he really mean them? His anti-Muslim rhetoric remains deeply troubling. His ludicrous boast yesterday that he would end radical Islamic terrorism is precisely indicative of the counter-productive stupidity that feeds it.

 

I am a free trader and dislike the march of protectionism. But on the other hand, international trade agreements have become routinely not about tariffs but much more about the allocation of resources within the states concerned, mandating a neo-liberal model and giving extraordinary legal status to multinational companies. The collapse of the current model of international trade agreement, if that is what Trump really heralds, has both its positive and negative aspects.

 

It is of course a major question whether the establishment and his own Republican party allow him to do anything too radical at all. My own suspicion is that after all the huffing and puffing, nothing much is going to change. The key intra-party battle will probably be over the only policy he affirmed in any detail yesterday, the return of New Deal type state infrastructure spending. The idea of a massive state funded programme of national infrastructure, particularly in transport, to get heavy industry back on its feet, is the very antithesis of neo-liberalism. I think yesterday cleared up the question of whether Trump really meant it – he does. Will he be allowed to do it by a party committed to small state and balanced budgets, is a huge question. As Trump is also committed to tax cuts, it implies a massive budget deficit – with which Trump might well be comfortable. If Trump does succeed, it could fundamentally shift the way western governments look at economics, turning back the clock to the happier days before the advent of monetarism.

 

So that is Trump. Much that is bad but some fascinating things to watch. I suppose the reason I can’t join in the “it’s a disaster” screams, is that I thought it was already a disaster. The neo-liberal, warmongering orthodoxies did not have my support, despite Obama’s suave veneer. The pandering to racist populism of Trump is bad, and we must keep a watch on it. He may turn out not really to be different at all. Like all politicians, personal enrichment will doubtless be high on his agenda. But I do not start from the presumption the world is now a worse place than it was last week. I shall wait and see

[magicrat]

He is going to be a disaster for human civilisation. I'd rather that bin that looks like him be in charge.

 

I thought us British were retarded but America jesus christ you have just given the most responsible job on the planet to an ignorant narcissistic money worshipper. The whole world would be laughing at you if it weren't for the fact it's like giving your toddler a gun and then realising when he's pointing it at you that it's loaded and the safety is off.

 

I agree totally, He raises the threat of further conflict in the Ukraine and the Baltic States. He has sparked a resurgence of Nationalism not only in America . I find the appeal to patriotism and flag waving very worrying and when people start looking inward and embrace tribalism wars follow.  We have seen our neighbours on the continent demonised resulting in the referendum result  and I fear the rhetoric from Trump against foreigners will become deafening once his silly simplistic domestic policies fail.  

The man is a sociopath and is incapable of empathising with other human beings, He takes rejection and criticism extremely badly and has a track record of pursuing vendetta's against those that oppose him ,. Putin seems a similar character and a rapid falling out would seem a distinct possibility,I see the Trump presidency as being a series of crises which hopefully we will all survive until he is impeached or loses the next election . Whether or not globalism has caused the pendulum to swing or not the fracturing of the EU , a resurgent Russia where democratic processes have all but been extinguished and America now governed by a President woefully ill equipped for the job could easily prove disastrous for everyone. If people are not worried then they really should be., 

[Jenson]

Can we not have Bane as president instead? Seems a much more liberal kinda guy.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Loads of anti-Trump demos around the world.  Including in Liverpool.

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

[Rico1304]

More copy and paste, who'd have guessed. At least the drones have stopped.

[Rico1304]

Just seen that they've identified the bloke who punched Spencer, seems he has some 'interesting' hobbies if it's really him.

[RedKnight]

Spicer just ranting at the press, telling them that the inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's and the floor coverings created an optical illusion. America, I don't think I'll ever get over what you've done.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

[Carvalho Diablo]

So Arl Arse is a good Trump ?

 

Confused...

[AngryOfTuebrook]

So Arl Arse is a good Trump ?

 

Confused...

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[Anubis]

Spicer just ranting at the press, telling them that the inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's and the floor coverings created an optical illusion. America, I don't think I'll ever get over what you've done.

It's astounding. The White House press briefings are going to rival Trump's tweets for thin-skinned responses.

[Bjornebye]

Loads of anti-Trump demos around the world.  Including in Liverpool.

 

 

Dying to know what the sign in the background ending in "arse" said 

 

Unless Tony's maa was present in which case we all know what it said. 

 

EDIT: Just seen it says "arl arse" which could mean "fuck my arl arse"

[RedKnight]

It's astounding. The White House press briefings are going to rival Trump's tweets for thin-skinned responses.

 

And then when it's reported all of his supporters claim that it's media led lie and it was a bigger crowd. How do you deal with the adult equivalent of 'liar liar pants on fire'?

[cloggypop]

It's bonkers

 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/media/sean-spicer-press-secretary-statement/index.html?sr=twCNN012117ean-spicer-press-secretary-statement%2Findex.html1126PMStoryLink&linkId=33646406

 

Funny as fuck but also terrifying.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Dying to know what the sign in the background ending in "arse" said 

 

Unless Tony's maa was present in which case we all know what it said. 

 

EDIT: Just seen it says "arl arse" which could mean "fuck my arl arse"

It's the one that's in the other picture "Trump is a bad arl arse".

[Nunavut Patrick]

Even Us Scousers Think Your're Too Orange.... hahaha....

 

These pussyhats are all the rage now....

[Jhinge Machha]

this cunt is going on at media and claims 1.5 million at his inauguration. here's the 7 hour timelapse.

 

 

 

more importantly, no efforts to address the march happening across multiple cities. instead his press secretary came out with this shit.

https://twitter.com/alicevjones/status/822956561387556865

 

 

I seriously can't believe what is happening. 

[cloggypop]

@jeremynewberger: .@RealDonaldTrump just set the world record for the guy rejected by more women in a single day in the history of humanity.

[torahboy]

@jeremynewberger: .@RealDonaldTrump just set the world record for the guy rejected by more women in a single day in the history of humanity.

 

 

If Ivanka ever says 'Not tonight, Pop' then that would be the ultimate rejection.