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16 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

110/114. Christ. 

I heard a fella on 5 Live say to that Robbie Savage back before Christmas that we'd get 108 points this season. I thought he was mad and nearly pissed myself laughing.

 

I sincerely hope he has a few quid on us to get that number of points because he's looking to be nearer the total than I ever thought possible.

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Was it my imagination or did I read suggestion that this 110/114 point colossal European Cup winning red machine was going to be pulled back into a title fight had we drawn this game, what, with our measly 20 point lead as it stood. The most stressful element of the game now should be whether we can get through this season unbeaten. 11 games to go; hopefully there will be 0 rotation of the first 11 in the league while that is still on the table. If we get through Watford & Bournemouth then the City and Everton games will be absolutely massive 
 

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1 hour ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Gary Neville talking utter utter shit.

 

I guess football ceased to exist between 86-89 ?

 

Fuck off Sky bastards.

To be fair the 86-88 (3 seasons) that team would only have got 10 points given Carra and Neville's criteria. Obviously no Europe hurts them. 

They could have put the Liverpool team of 79-81 in and they would have garnered 14 points. A few Manchester united teams that weren't included would have got high points also e.g. 94-96 team. I think they were just being selective so they could include the Leeds Forest Spurs teams in the discussion.

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POINTS

Most points in a season

Record: 100
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 79
What Liverpool require: 21 points from 11 games (e.g. 6 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats)

 

Most points after first 26 games

Record: 76, in Europe's top 5 leagues
Currently held by: Liverpool 2019/20
What the rest did: 75 by Bayern Munich (2013/14)

 

Most points over 38 consecutive games

Record: 110
Currently held by: Liverpool (February 2019-2020)
What Liverpool can achieve: 112 with wins in the the next 2 games

 

Biggest title-winning margin

Record: 19 points
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 22 points
What Liverpool require: To match all City's remaining results less 2 points

 

Earliest title win by date

Record: April 14
Currently held by: Manchester United (2000/01)
Liverpool’s earliest possible title win: March 7, depending on other results

Liverpool's earliest possible in their hands: March 21, when they host Crystal Palace

 

Earliest title win by games remaining

Record: 5 games left
Currently held by: Manchester United (2000/01) and Manchester City (2017/18)
If Liverpool win every game: 7 games left

 

WINS

Most consecutive wins

Record: 18
Currently held by: Liverpool (2019/20) and Manchester City (August-December 2017)
What Liverpool require: a win against Watford

 

Most consecutive home wins

Record: 21
Held by: Liverpool (currently)

 

Most wins in a season

Record: 32
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18 and 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 26
What Liverpool require: 7 wins or more from their last 11 games

 

Most home wins in a season

Record: 18
Currently held by: Chelsea (2005/06), Manchester United (2010/11), Manchester City (2011/12 and 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 14
What Liverpool require: wins in the remaining 5 home fixtures, to make it a 100% record

 

Most away wins in a season

Record: 16
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 12
What Liverpool require: 5 wins from the 6 away games remaining

 

Beating every team at least once in a season and winning the league

Record currently held by: Liverpool (2019/20), Chelsea (2005/06), Manchester United (2011/12), Manchester City (2017/18 and 2018/19).  Liverpool did it in the quickest time

 

DEFEATS

Fewest defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: Arsenal (2003/04)
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 11 fixtures

What else would happen: also beats Arsenal's number of days undefeated

 

Fewest home defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: 16 teams, including Liverpool
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 5 home fixtures

 

Fewest away defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: Arsenal (2001/02 and 2003/04)
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 6 away fixtures

 

Most consecutive games undefeated

Record: 49
Currently held by: Arsenal (May 2003-October 2004)
What Liverpool are on: 44
What Liverpool require: To avoid defeat in their next 6 fixtures, including Manchester City away

 

Most consecutive games undefeated, Big 5 European Leagues

Record: 58
Currently held by: AC Milan (1991-92)
What Liverpool are on: 44
What Liverpool require: To avoid defeat in their remaining 11 fixtures, plus the first 4 next season

 

Most consecutive away games undefeated

Record: 27
Currently held by: Arsenal (April 2003-September 2004)
What Liverpool are on: 21
What Liverpool require: to avoid defeat in their final 6 away games, then their first away game of next season

 

DRAWS

Fewest draws in a season

Record: 2
Currently held by: Manchester City and Tottenham (both 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 1
What Liverpool require: no draws from their next 16 games

 

GOALS

Fewest goals conceded in a season

Record: 15
Currently held by: Chelsea (2004/05)
What Liverpool are on: 16

 

Fewest away goals conceded in a season

Record: 9
Currently held by: Chelsea (2004/05)
What Liverpool are on: 6
What Liverpool require: to concede no more than 3 goals in their last 6 away games

 

Best goal difference in a season

Record: +79
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: +40

 

Most games scored in

Record: 38
Currently held by: Arsenal (2001/02)
What Liverpool are on: 27
What Liverpool require: at least 1 goal in each of their next 11 games

 

Most consecutive clean sheets

Record: 14
Currently held by: Manchester United (November 2008-February 2009)

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5 hours ago, Razoray said:

To be fair the 86-88 (3 seasons) that team would only have got 10 points given Carra and Neville's criteria. Obviously no Europe hurts them. 

They could have put the Liverpool team of 79-81 in and they would have garnered 14 points. A few Manchester united teams that weren't included would have got high points also e.g. 94-96 team. I think they were just being selective so they could include the Leeds Forest Spurs teams in the discussion.

Agree with that mate. I Really enjoyed that discussion. Carra and Neville are very good to watch on MNF.

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7 hours ago, m0e said:

Most points over 38 consecutive games

Record: 110
Currently held by: Liverpool (February 2019-2020)
What Liverpool can achieve: 112 with wins in the the next 2 games

Eh? Ohhhhhhhh, I see. Had to work to get that one.

 

7 hours ago, m0e said:

Beating every team at least once in a season and winning the league

Record currently held by: Liverpool (2019/20), Chelsea (2005/06), Manchester United (2011/12), Manchester City (2017/18 and 2018/19).  Liverpool did it in the quickest time

Run that one past me one more time?

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7 hours ago, m0e said:

POINTS

Most points in a season

Record: 100
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 79
What Liverpool require: 21 points from 11 games (e.g. 6 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats)

 

Most points after first 26 games

Record: 76, in Europe's top 5 leagues
Currently held by: Liverpool 2019/20
What the rest did: 75 by Bayern Munich (2013/14)

 

Most points over 38 consecutive games

Record: 110
Currently held by: Liverpool (February 2019-2020)
What Liverpool can achieve: 112 with wins in the the next 2 games

 

Biggest title-winning margin

Record: 19 points
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 22 points
What Liverpool require: To match all City's remaining results less 2 points

 

Earliest title win by date

Record: April 14
Currently held by: Manchester United (2000/01)
Liverpool’s earliest possible title win: March 7, depending on other results

Liverpool's earliest possible in their hands: March 21, when they host Crystal Palace

 

Earliest title win by games remaining

Record: 5 games left
Currently held by: Manchester United (2000/01) and Manchester City (2017/18)
If Liverpool win every game: 7 games left

 

WINS

Most consecutive wins

Record: 18
Currently held by: Liverpool (2019/20) and Manchester City (August-December 2017)
What Liverpool require: a win against Watford

 

Most consecutive home wins

Record: 21
Held by: Liverpool (currently)

 

Most wins in a season

Record: 32
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18 and 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 26
What Liverpool require: 7 wins or more from their last 11 games

 

Most home wins in a season

Record: 18
Currently held by: Chelsea (2005/06), Manchester United (2010/11), Manchester City (2011/12 and 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 14
What Liverpool require: wins in the remaining 5 home fixtures, to make it a 100% record

 

Most away wins in a season

Record: 16
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: 12
What Liverpool require: 5 wins from the 6 away games remaining

 

Beating every team at least once in a season and winning the league

Record currently held by: Liverpool (2019/20), Chelsea (2005/06), Manchester United (2011/12), Manchester City (2017/18 and 2018/19).  Liverpool did it in the quickest time

 

DEFEATS

Fewest defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: Arsenal (2003/04)
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 11 fixtures

What else would happen: also beats Arsenal's number of days undefeated

 

Fewest home defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: 16 teams, including Liverpool
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 5 home fixtures

 

Fewest away defeats in a season

Record: 0
Currently held by: Arsenal (2001/02 and 2003/04)
What Liverpool are on: 0
What Liverpool require: no defeats from their remaining 6 away fixtures

 

Most consecutive games undefeated

Record: 49
Currently held by: Arsenal (May 2003-October 2004)
What Liverpool are on: 44
What Liverpool require: To avoid defeat in their next 6 fixtures, including Manchester City away

 

Most consecutive games undefeated, Big 5 European Leagues

Record: 58
Currently held by: AC Milan (1991-92)
What Liverpool are on: 44
What Liverpool require: To avoid defeat in their remaining 11 fixtures, plus the first 4 next season

 

Most consecutive away games undefeated

Record: 27
Currently held by: Arsenal (April 2003-September 2004)
What Liverpool are on: 21
What Liverpool require: to avoid defeat in their final 6 away games, then their first away game of next season

 

DRAWS

Fewest draws in a season

Record: 2
Currently held by: Manchester City and Tottenham (both 2018/19)
What Liverpool are on: 1
What Liverpool require: no draws from their next 16 games

 

GOALS

Fewest goals conceded in a season

Record: 15
Currently held by: Chelsea (2004/05)
What Liverpool are on: 16

 

Fewest away goals conceded in a season

Record: 9
Currently held by: Chelsea (2004/05)
What Liverpool are on: 6
What Liverpool require: to concede no more than 3 goals in their last 6 away games

 

Best goal difference in a season

Record: +79
Currently held by: Manchester City (2017/18)
What Liverpool are on: +40

 

Most games scored in

Record: 38
Currently held by: Arsenal (2001/02)
What Liverpool are on: 27
What Liverpool require: at least 1 goal in each of their next 11 games

 

Most consecutive clean sheets

Record: 14
Currently held by: Manchester United (November 2008-February 2009)

Can't help but feel this is papering over the cracks!

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Read the thread back after the game and surprised at the panic with 40 minutes left. It’s as if a lot of fans have not actually been watching us this season. 

 

I am definitely on the ‘ glass half empty’ side of the football equation but I never thought we would lose at any point. It struck me as a game where the team expected to win easily ( like us fans ) and got into gear once they had a kick up the arse by their second goal. Added to rubbish weather and a muted crowd it was just ‘ one of those games ‘ and we won it.

 

On the bright side I have been worrying that eventually we would play someone whose every shot would fly in , it happened last night and we still got 3 points.

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Feb 24th and now on the same amount of points as these lads finished that season on.

 

Staggering.

 

Jocky doing a John Terry years before him!

 

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The normal cycle of the last few decades is build a decent team, finish second, fall to shit the following season.

 

How did we get to the point where, in our scheduled "fall to shit" season, we're not just winning the thing, we're looking at everybody's all-time records and counting up which ones we can break?

 

(There's a three-word answer to that question and the middle word is Norbert.)

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9 hours ago, skaro said:

 

In terms of the ideal of invincibility, I think there are 11 hard games to go.

 

 

 

Indeed, every team left to play will want to be the ones who can brag about stopping us going a whole season undefeated. Especially Everton and City who'll celebrate as if they have won a trophy. If it is meant to be that we fail at one hurdle then I hope it's against someone like Watford and not either of those two cunts mentioned. We've had a few patchy performances of late but we still find a way to win, plus plenty of teams fans would still like to produce the football we are instead of parking the bus which they get to see on a regular basis. 

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16 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The normal cycle of the last few decades is build a decent team, finish second, fall to shit the following season.

 

How did we get to the point where, in our scheduled "fall to shit" season, we're not just winning the thing, we're looking at everybody's all-time records and counting up which ones we can break?

 

(There's a three-word answer to that question and the middle word is Norbert.)

I like to view it as being of a piece with how Shitcoat is having third season syndrome in the third month. Isn't life grand?

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1 hour ago, an tha said:

Feb 24th and now on the same amount of points as these lads finished that season on.

 

Staggering.

 

Jocky doing a John Terry years before him!

 

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What an achievement that was. Barry Venison,David Burrows,Glenn Hysen and we still won the league!

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55 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Indeed, every team left to play will want to be the ones who can brag about stopping us going a whole season undefeated. Especially Everton and City who'll celebrate as if they have won a trophy. If it is meant to be that we fail at one hurdle then I hope it's against someone like Watford and not either of those two cunts mentioned. We've had a few patchy performances of late but we still find a way to win, plus plenty of teams fans would still like to produce the football we are instead of parking the bus which they get to see on a regular basis. 

City I could just about handle, but Everton........

 

I genuinely think they would give out medals.  

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25 minutes ago, Dave D said:

City I could just about handle, but Everton........

 

I genuinely think they would give out medals.  

The People's Medals.

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