Summer 2013 Transfer Thread

[RedinSweden]

United offer £35 million for Fabragas.

 

Fabregas is shite.

[Whelan]

Never seen Nursey play, so can't comment upon how good he is - but I will say this, yes - Juninho, Zola may have been small and proved you don't necessarily have to be tall to excel - but they were not in the same team! We have Coutinho, Sterling and Allen who are borderline midgets - add in this little chap and we may as well loan out our first team to the Empire for the Panto season!

 

We don't have two or three players who are 6'3 and above to compensate - why not go for Muriel or Tello?

[fowler9]

fucking hell, the Fabregas "news" has only just come out and I've already seen reported bids of 26, 30 and 35 million

 

 

and people believe what this countries press comes out with.....

[claussor]

What happened to getting a Wanyama or someone like that (Schneiderlin)? I'd rather have a strong MC than another offensive weapon.

[Guest San Don]

What happened to getting a Wanyama or someone like that (Schneiderlin)? I'd rather have a strong MC than another offensive weapon.

 

They're not 'world class'?

[No2]

Never seen Nursey play, so can't comment upon how good he is - but I will say this, yes - Juninho, Zola may have been small and proved you don't necessarily have to be tall to excel - but they were not in the same team! We have Coutinho, Sterling and Allen who are borderline midgets - add in this little chap and we may as well loan out our first team to the Empire for the Panto season!

 

We don't have two or three players who are 6'3 and above to compensate - why not go for Muriel or Tello?

 

I used the very same argument against signing Coutinhio, nothing to do with his ability I just felt he was too small in an already soft team. I was wrong about that and could be wrong again but I agree with you that we've reached our midget quota already.

[RedinSweden]

I dream of a team of midgets.

 

Brendan and his minions.

[Whelan]

I dream of a team of midgets.

 

Brendan and his minions.

 

It might lull the opposition in a false sense of security - they may think that our attackers are at the end the other end of the pitch and nothing to worry about - and before they realise and focus, we are through on goal!

 

Clever!

[Lightforce]

Brazil have shown you can have big physical players in your defensive areas, sprinkle in a midget or two with players such as Oscar, and outplay teams like Spain. That is the type of team I want to see.

 

If you want a team in the future that can pass Arsenal off the pitch, then that's great, I'd love that, in part, but I wouldn't want that same team, if it's too small physically, to then be outfought and put off its game by Stoke the next match and lose 1-0 to a header from a free kick. As we should know, going to places like Stoke and winning is what wins titles.

 

Brazil tore into Spain, they were tackling ferociously, winning all the headers, they completely put them off their game, but when they had the ball, they had skilled players there aswell to do damage. Luiz is big but can play, so can Paulinho, let's have the variety, it will help us.

 

We need to have a team that can cope with different types of opposition. Barcelona have gone nuts with the midgets, and they came unstuck against a much more physically imposing side like Bayern, who also have pace and skill and great passers, we need a mix.

 

All you need to do is look at our great teams of the past. They weren't one thing or the other. You want a team that can play great football? Great, we had that for you, but if you wanted a scrap and a battle, we had that too. They were much more balanced teams than the Midgethon Brendan's having.

[GJM]

What happened to getting a Wanyama or someone like that (Schneiderlin)? I'd rather have a strong MC than another offensive weapon.

 

Tactically, I don’t think Rodgers’ vision of what a team should be like has much place for a defensive midfield ‘specialist’, such as Wanyama, or others of his ilk. I think he (Rodgers) is firmly in the Arrigo Sacchi camp when it comes to team composition, i.e. his ideal would be 11 ‘generalists’, all excellent at making the play, intelligent using the ball, all hard working - pressing at times, covering back and filling up the spaces at others.

 

To Rodgers, I think that the specialist DM is somebody you need to ‘fill in’ when others are not doing enough. I don’t see Rodgers ever signing such a player as they simply don’t fit with how he thinks a team should play, and they don't really fit with the other players that he has brought/is trying to bring to the club.

[Xherdan]

Tactically, I don’t think Rodgers’ vision of what a team should be like has much place for a defensive midfield ‘specialist’, such as Wanyama, or others of his ilk. I think he (Rodgers) is firmly in the Arrigo Sacchi camp when it comes to team composition, i.e. his ideal would be 11 ‘generalists’, all excellent at making the play, intelligent using the ball, all hard working - pressing at times, covering back and filling up the spaces at others.

 

To Rodgers, I think that the specialist DM is somebody you need to ‘fill in’ when others are not doing enough. I don’t see Rodgers ever signing such a player as they simply don’t fit with how he thinks a team should play, and they don't really fit with the other players that he has brought/is trying to bring to the club.

 

 

I agree with this. I dont think he sees a Wanyama type player as a priority. As the season progresses I think we will see Joe Allen play in that link between Centre Backs and forward players and also Agger carry the ball forward a lot more.

[GJM]

I agree with this. I dont think he sees a Wanyama type player as a priority. As the season progresses I think we will see Joe Allen play in that link between Centre Backs and forward players and also Agger carry the ball forward a lot more.

 

I think that is the plan. How it’ll work out is another issue. It’s a risk as supporters of British teams like their teams to have at least one player in the middle who is seen as ‘tackler’, even if this may not be a great measure of an effective team player. There is a sense that a midfield is ‘weak’ when it does not possess such a player, even if, as a result, the team is much better at keeping the ball and making better use of it.

[Guest LFD]

Tactically, I don’t think Rodgers’ vision of what a team should be like has much place for a defensive midfield ‘specialist’, such as Wanyama, or others of his ilk. I think he (Rodgers) is firmly in the Arrigo Sacchi camp when it comes to team composition, i.e. his ideal would be 11 ‘generalists’, all excellent at making the play, intelligent using the ball, all hard working - pressing at times, covering back and filling up the spaces at others.

 

To Rodgers, I think that the specialist DM is somebody you need to ‘fill in’ when others are not doing enough. I don’t see Rodgers ever signing such a player as they simply don’t fit with how he thinks a team should play, and they don't really fit with the other players that he has brought/is trying to bring to the club.

 

Yet last season he had Lucas who is very much a DM.

 

I think your post is guess work and a theory based because he used Allen in that role when his first choice Lucas was injured.

 

We've had people assuming what Rodgers wants since he joined the club. Every thought he would play 4-3-3 and players would have to fit into that formation. He has shown he will use various formations. He will use players in different roles. He has changed our brand of football during the season.

 

He's pragmatic and I don't think you can say he doesn't wants a DM, especially when he has Lucas as first choice who is very much a specialist DM.

[Jairzinho]

Yet last season he had Lucas who is very much a DM.

 

I think your post is guess work and a theory based because he used Allen in that role when his first choice Lucas was injured.

 

We've had people assuming what Rodgers wants since he joined the club. Every thought he would play 4-3-3 and players would have to fit into that formation. He has shown he will use various formations. He will use players in different roles. He has changed our brand of football during the season.

 

He's pragmatic and I don't think you can say he doesn't wants a DM, especially when he has Lucas as first choice who is very much a specialist DM.

 

But not in the mould of someone like Wanyama or that lad at West Ham. Rodgers sees the need for a holding midfielder, but not one that just runs around clattering into people and giving the ball away.

[GJM]

Yet last season he had Lucas who is very much a DM.

 

I think your post is guess work and a theory based because he used Allen in that role when his first choice Lucas was injured.

 

We've had people assuming what Rodgers wants since he joined the club. Every thought he would play 4-3-3 and players would have to fit into that formation. He has shown he will use various formations. He will use players in different roles. He has changed our brand of football during the season.

 

He's pragmatic and I don't think you can say he doesn't wants a DM, especially when he has Lucas as first choice who is very much a specialist DM.

 

It is guess work, no doubt. But not without some substance. Rodgers talks a lot about his ideas for how he wants the team to play. But you are right - it is informed guesswork.

 

Lucas got injured so early last season, and then, when he returned, Allen was struggling with his shoulder injury, so I think it's difficult to really know who is first choice. Plus I'm not sure Rodgers sees Lucas as a specialist DM. I know he's not everybody's cup of tea, but there is definitely more to his game than simply tackling and giving the ball 5 meters left or right.

 

Interesting to see how the team is set up come mid-August, but I don't expect there to be any hard tackling, specialist DMs added to the squad between now and then. Lucas is probably the closest we'll get to that.

[Guest LFD]

But not in the mould of someone like Wanyama or that lad at West Ham. Rodgers sees the need for a holding midfielder, but not one that just runs around clattering into people and giving the ball away.

 

Lucas can keep the ball, but so can Wanyama and many other defensive midfielders.

 

I think Rodgers is very flexible in what he wants. He wants players good on the ball in all positions, but other than that he seems flexible.

[Whelan]

The club scouted Wanyama quite a lot, so it would be fair to assume they didn't feel he was what they needed! Certainly not at that price.

 

Biteco is a DM (according to what little information you can get on him) - so I do think he wants that a defensive minded player, but they have to be able to play.

[Guest LFD]

Interesting to see how the team is set up come mid-August, but I don't expect there to be any hard tackling, specialist DMs added to the squad between now and then. Lucas is probably the closest we'll get to that.

 

I don't think there will be either, I think there should be though, I don't want Allen as back up to Lucas - which looks to be the case.

[GJM]

I don't think there will be either, I think there should be though, I don't want Allen as back up to Lucas - which looks to be the case.

 

Right. It feels risky as it goes against my gut feeling of what a team needs. I actually think it may be Lucas backing up Allen, rather than the other way around.

[fowler9]

The club scouted Wanyama quite a lot, so it would be fair to assume they didn't feel he was what they needed! Certainly not at that price.

 

Biteco is a DM (according to what little information you can get on him) - so I do think he wants that a defensive minded player, but they have to be able to play.

 

are we sure he is a real player and not just Suarez's new nickname

[Guest LFD]

Right. It feels risky as it goes against my gut feeling of what a team needs. I actually think it may be Lucas backing up Allen, rather than the other way around.

 

That would be a disaster.

[MLB]

Lack of height in the side could be a real weakness for us next season against teams that like to "put it in the mixer". Hopefully we will have enough quality in the side to batter the likes of Stoke and West Ham without having to worry too much about the inevitable goal conceded from a set piece.

[JD74]

Various people on twitter and dubious "sources" are reporting that Bayern Munich are ready to offer £25m plus Xherdan Shaqiri for Suarez?

 

Personally i would seriously consider that.

 

Exclusive: Liverpool Ready to Accept £25m Plus Bayern Munich Player Swap Offer for Striker Luis Suarez | CaughtOffside

[PaulMcC]

That only works out about 40m. Fuck that. Just buy Shaqiri and keep Suarez.

[sir roger]

Various people on twitter and dubious "sources" are reporting that Bayern Munich are ready to offer £25m plus Xherdan Shaqiri for Suarez?

 

Personally i would seriously consider that.

 

Exclusive: Liverpool Ready to Accept £25m Plus Bayern Munich Player Swap Offer for Striker Luis Suarez | CaughtOffside

 

It is from Caught Offside, so I give it very little credence, but how much did Shaqiri cost Bayern last year ?