Strike Action

[AngryOfTuebrook]

9 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

The unions have some blame here as well for letting 12 years of rises mount up, it was never going to be palatable to any government to take that hit in one go, as is happening now.  But here we are.  And no amount of new 'laws' to try and stop strike action will work, if anything it'll make it worse.  Footage of thousands of regular people being hauled off in police vans won't be a vote winner. 

Bear in mind that you can't legally call a strike unless you have at least a majority on at least a 50% turnout (with higher thresholds in specific sectors); and, for a successful strike, you really need to clear those thresholds by a significant margin.  For most of the last 12 years, inflation was fairly low, so a below-inflation pay offer (say, an offer of 1% when inflation is 3%) isn't, on its own, damaging enough to drive most of the members to strike action.  This year, because there is such a gulf between inflation and a lot of pay offers (plus the way some of pay offers have been tied up with attacks on jobs, conditions, services and safety) workers who have endured a decade of pay erosion can't take any more.

 

Every day carry bucket to the well

One day the bottom must drop out

 

[Captain Turdseye]

12 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

Sometimes a joke is just a joke, and you're allowed to laugh at it.

I got it, man. I would have been the first to reply and got halfway through typing out ‘Stronts gonna Stronts’ before giving you the benefit of the doubt. 

[TheBitch]

Giving people the benefit of the doubt goes against everything this wonderful forum stands for. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

36 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Giving people the benefit of the doubt goes against everything this wonderful forum stands for. 

Fuck off. We all know what you really mean by that, you cunt.

[VladimirIlyich]

19 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

Yes, I don't doubt that you imagine a lot.

Are you a teacher then? And do you enjoy your masses of leisure time when not in school? With this kind of lifestyle why aren't people queueing up to teach?

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Bear in mind that you can't legally call a strike unless you have at least a majority on at least a 50% turnout (with higher thresholds in specific sectors); and, for a successful strike, you really need to clear those thresholds by a significant margin.  For most of the last 12 years, inflation was fairly low, so a below-inflation pay offer (say, an offer of 1% when inflation is 3%) isn't, on its own, damaging enough to drive most of the members to strike action.  This year, because there is such a gulf between inflation and a lot of pay offers (plus the way some of pay offers have been tied up with attacks on jobs, conditions, services and safety) workers who have endured a decade of pay erosion can't take any more.

 

Every day carry bucket to the well

One day the bottom must drop out

 

Yep

I've said previously our union has balloted twice in the past and not passed the required threshold.

This time enough people have just about had enough.

[Bjornebye]

4 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Are you a teacher then? And do you enjoy your masses of leisure time when not in school? With this kind of lifestyle why aren't people queueing up to teach?

 

I bet all these over-worked and underpaid teachers all have iphones and big tellys though. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Here's the economic logic fail....

 

There's 5.7m public sector workers being told they can't have a proper wage, considering the pound has never been weaker, ever.  

 

There's an additional 27m people working in the UK. 

So, these people are plumbers, builders, taxi drivers, shop keepers, whatever.  

Those people are working for businesses, or run businesses that will lose circe 20% of their income now, because public sector workers will stop buying as much stuff as they did before.  

 

The "no public sector pay-rise" mantra isn't just going to affect public sector workers.  

 

And there's no drop in taxes.  We keep circling the drain, while still paying more in taxes.  The Tories would shut the NHS and still our taxes wouldn't drop.  

 

Meanwhile they point to an unsupervised slush fund called 'the deficit', where our money is taken off is and goes behind a curtain and we're told it's been added to this bonfire, and tells us how well that's doing. 

 

Abracadabra. 

 

 

[Rico1304]

 

[Arniepie]

bbc news running another anti strike story today 

[Section_31]

It's fucking weird what's happening at the moment. All of these things have been building since 2010. Wages have stagnated, services are unusable, everyone knew it but nobody cared until about six months ago. Not only that, but people have  voted for three Conservative governments since then too.

 

"Oooh my wages aren't keeping up with cost of inflation and the NHS and trains are shite".

 

Erm.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I support strikers, but Mick Lynch - who has been actually very good outside of James O’B questioning him about Brexit - looked daft and dishonest there. The real answer to strikes over Christmas isn’t ‘Christmas starts on Christmas Eve’, it’s ‘we are striking now to have the biggest impact and play our strongest hand. That’s my job, to do what’s best for our members’. Of all the heavyweights Mick has had over a barrel, it’s Richard fuckin’ ‘unnaturally still young looking’ Marley that spears him. He’s the Manta Ray to Lynch’s Steve Irwin. 

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I support strikers, but Mick Lynch - who has been actually very good outside of James O’B questioning him about Brexit - looked daft and dishonest there. The real answer to strikes over Christmas isn’t ‘Christmas starts on Christmas Eve’, it’s ‘we are striking now to have the biggest impact and play our strongest hand. That’s my job, to do what’s best for our members’. Of all the heavyweights Mick has had over a barrel, it’s Richard fuckin’ ‘unnaturally still young looking’ Marley that spears him. He’s the Manta Ray to Lynch’s Steve Irwin. 

Yeah I was a bit uncomfortable when he said Christmas starts on Christmas Eve. Set himself up for a panning. He should have smashed that tit out of the park. 

[Section_31]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I support strikers, but Mick Lynch - who has been actually very good outside of James O’B questioning him about Brexit - looked daft and dishonest there. The real answer to strikes over Christmas isn’t ‘Christmas starts on Christmas Eve’, it’s ‘we are striking now to have the biggest impact and play our strongest hand. That’s my job, to do what’s best for our members’. Of all the heavyweights Mick has had over a barrel, it’s Richard fuckin’ ‘unnaturally still young looking’ Marley that spears him. He’s the Manta Ray to Lynch’s Steve Irwin. 

 

I think Lynch comes across as just fed up with the bollocks now of dealing with these people. There's only so many times you can be asked if you've modelled yourself on a thunderbirds puppet because you're evil before you get bored.

[Arniepie]

I didnt get a 19% pay rise why should they?

I earn less than them and have never had to use a food bank.

who is going to pay for all these pay rises?

how am I meant to get home?

These millionaire union barons

 

Just fuck,the fuck off. 

[Gnasher]

Mick Lynch rallied against the EU over privatisation. He was right.

 

James O,B rallied voters against voting Jeremy Corbyn over anti semitism. He was wrong. 

 

James O,B. Was one of the many media/political commentators who pushed the Boris Johnson celebrity mantra on the British people, although he now says he can't remember why. He was wrong.

[Numero Veinticinco]

24 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Mick Lynch rallied against the EU over privatisation. He was right.

 

James O,B rallied voters against voting Jeremy Corbyn over anti semitism. He was wrong. 

 

James O,B. Was one of the many media/political commentators who pushed the Boris Johnson celebrity mantra on the British people, although he now says he can't remember why. He was wrong.

You’re thick as pig shit and not worth the shit off shoes of the people you sit and attempt to judge.  

[Numero Veinticinco]

39 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

I think Lynch comes across as just fed up with the bollocks now of dealing with these people. There's only so many times you can be asked if you've modelled yourself on a thunderbirds puppet because you're evil before you get bored.

Yeah, he has had some bullshit thrown his way. Just dropped the ball a bit there. Human after all, etc. 

[Creator Supreme]

39 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah I was a bit uncomfortable when he said Christmas starts on Christmas Eve. Set himself up for a panning. He should have smashed that tit out of the park. 

I wasn't uncomfortable at all, fuck Christmas and fuck the unnecessary commercialisation of it, and fuck Richard Madeley!

 

His answers (when nobhead finally shut up and let him speak) were spot on!

[Section_31]

Madeley is our Dan Rather. That explains a lot.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

46 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I support strikers, but Mick Lynch - who has been actually very good outside of James O’B questioning him about Brexit - looked daft and dishonest there. The real answer to strikes over Christmas isn’t ‘Christmas starts on Christmas Eve’, it’s ‘we are striking now to have the biggest impact and play our strongest hand. That’s my job, to do what’s best for our members’. Of all the heavyweights Mick has had over a barrel, it’s Richard fuckin’ ‘unnaturally still young looking’ Marley that spears him. He’s the Manta Ray to Lynch’s Steve Irwin. 

The Christmas period for businesses starts in late October.  Businesses are going bust due to energy prices, not strikes. 

Why doesn't Madeley get energy firms on the programme and ask them the same question about 'goodwill' during Xmas, during snow and ice. 

 

[Creator Supreme]

Let's be honest, Madeley is only in there to pay for Judy's gin bill (about the same size as the national debt of Croatia)!

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

I wasn't uncomfortable at all, fuck Christmas and fuck the unnecessary commercialisation of it, and fuck Richard Madeley!

 

His answers (when nobhead finally shut up and let him speak) were spot on!

I mean more him giving them more ammunition. Low and behold look. Already top story on the DM. 
 

 

[Gooch]

Thought Lynch handled it alright tbh, maybe was a bit disingenuous but it all got completely overshadowed by Madeleys ego and he ended up looking like a tit (shock) so no real harm done. A better interview might have made skewered him better.