*Shakes head* Everton again.

[cloggypop]

Potential saviours or vultures smelling a rotting corpse? 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Josef Svejk said:

Well known for his murderous and genocidal activities, without doubt. And - on a rather less serious note - his waste of national wealth.

 

Worse than Hitler, really. 

It was the intent man, the intent was diabolical.

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

Well known for his murderous and genocidal activities, without doubt. And - on a rather less serious note - his waste of national wealth.

 

Worse than Hitler, really. 

Yeah, that's why I said it's "a bit like", not exactly like. Well done for taking it literally, though.

[Josef Svejk]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

Yeah, that's why I said it's "a bit like", not exactly like. Well done for taking it literally, though.

It's not remotely comparable. Hence my reply. Which you fully understand. 

[3 Stacks]

9 minutes ago, m0e said:

Then you don't understand what makes football fans emotionally invested in their team.

 

Suarez was the very definition of what every fan imagines they would want to be.

 

Totally committed, consistently outrageous, and an absolute goal / assist machine.

 

The fact he was so flawed made him even more relatable. He knew how to stick it to the opposition, and wind up our most bitterest rivals, time and time again.

 

And he matched this bravado with timeless goals, jaw-dropping skills, and a relentless drive to win.

To defend him and love him when he played for the club, yeah sure, I get some of  that. I was never his biggest fan, but when he was running around like a psycho and scoring crazy goals, I was obviously more into it, it's not like I'm thinking about him biting players in the middle of the game where he's scoring 4 against Norwich. But to defend him after he left, nah. Dick riders.

[3 Stacks]

3 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

It's not remotely comparable. Hence my reply. Which you fully understand. 

It's somewhat comparable if you're an honest observer. Obviously, not completely. It's a loose metaphor.

[Josef Svejk]

5 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

It's not remotely comparable. Hence my reply. Which you fully understand. 

Frankly, I have greater misgivings about our Bolsonaro-supporting heroes than I ever did about Suarez. But that's another story...

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Would like to know whether Everton ever paid the full fee for Richarlison. The add ons couldn't have been based on team performance like trophies or top four finishes.

 

Can only think of +£10m for injuring a redshite,

+£5m getting sent off in a derby.

[Harry Squatter]

Evertonians in work reckon that takeover will be a leveraged buyout. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

They still need to face consequences for cheating, a buyout shouldn't wipe that slate clean.

[Anubis]

33 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

Well known for his murderous and genocidal activities, without doubt. And - on a rather less serious note - his waste of national wealth.

 

Worse than Hitler, really. 

Yes….

[Josef Svejk]

2 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

They still need to face consequences for cheating, a buyout shouldn't wipe that slate clean.

Chelsea got away with it. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

The shite for sale?

 

Former Manchester United and Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is fronting a consortium who have entered talks to try to buy Everton.

Kenyon is part of a group that includes chief executive of Minneapolis-based Talon Real Estate Maciek Kaminski and American businessman John Thornton, and is being advised by investment specialist Michael Klein, along with the US law firm Weil, Gotshal and Manges.

 

It is understood heads of terms have been signed although talks are described as being at a “relatively early stage”, with owner Farhad Moshiri believed to value Everton in excess of £500million, taking into account the club’s debt.

 

The consortium may want guarantees that Everton will not face a points deduction or heavy fine over Financial Fair Play issues before entering into a legally-binding agreement, but the club have always insisted they have not broken regulations.

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Kenyon has been advising clubs and prospective owners for a number of years from his base in Jersey. His company Opto Advisers have been involved with the transformative takeovers of Paris Saint-Germain and Wolverhampton Wanderers. He has worked with Atletico Madrid and Middlesbrough, and was involved in a bid to buy Newcastle United.

 

Klein, who, like Kaminski, has been approached for comment, was an adviser to the Sir Martin Broughton-fronted bid to buy Chelsea. The group made the final shortlist, but missed out to the Todd Boehly-led consortium.

 

Thornton is the executive chairman of Barrick Gold, one of the world’s largest mining companies with a net worth of £31billion, and non-executive chairman of PineBridge Investments, having stepped down as co-president of Goldman Sachs in 2003.

 

From their time together at Chelsea, Kenyon already knows Everton head coach Frank Lampard well, having negotiated contracts with the former midfielder and it is expected the 43-year-old would receive the consortium’s support if a takeover was completed.

 

Everton have not commented on the talks, but any takeover may not be good news for chairman Bill Kenwright. The 76-year-old has held his position since 1989, but has become the target of criticism from Everton fans and Moshiri last week apologised to supporters for mistakes in a season in which the club narrowly escaped relegation from the Premier League.

 

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Everton and Moshiri were forced to sever all business links with Alisher Usmanov after he was sanctioned by the Government following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. 

 

The club’s multiple sponsorship ties with companies associated with the Uzbekistan-born billionaire were terminated and last week a new club record front-of-shirt sponsorship with casino and sports betting company Stake.com was announced, which provoked fresh scrutiny.

'It has not been good enough and we need to do better'

Moshiri, who has overseen spending over £500m since his arrival at Everton in 2016, wrote an open letter to supporters that read: “It has not been good enough and we need to do better. Mistakes have been made and for that I want to apologise to all of you."

 

The British-Iranian businessman also reaffirmed his commitment to deliver a "fully funded" new stadium at Bramley Moore Dock, which is currently under construction, while pledging to not make the same mistakes in the transfer market that led to the club posting combined losses of £372m over three seasons.

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“The stadium alone will not help us achieve our objectives and we are committed to not making the same mistakes again - including how we have not always spent significant amounts of money wisely,” he said.

“You have given us incredible support that helped us over the line when we most needed it, and we must repay that support and show that lessons have been learned.”

 

Regardless of a proposed takeover, Lampard is hoping to sign as many as five new players this summer. James Tarkowski has agreed a free transfer move after his Burnley contract expired and there is interest in Chelsea midfielders Conor Gallagher and Billy Gilmour, as well as Tottenham Hotspur’s Harry Winks.

 

Spurs are prepared to offer Winks and Lucas Moura as part of an offer to sign Richarlison, who Everton value at well over £50m.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/06/13/peter-kenyon-fronting-consortium-try-buy-everton/

“500 million pounds!”

[SlugTrail]

2 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

3 Stacks doesn't love Suarez?

 

A single member of this forum doesn't love Suarez?

Phenominal player, an absolute cunt on the pitch and he was hard to love.

[Bob]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

To defend him and love him when he played for the club, yeah sure, I get some of  that. I was never his biggest fan, but when he was running around like a psycho and scoring crazy goals, I was obviously more into it, it's not like I'm thinking about him biting players in the middle of the game where he's scoring 4 against Norwich. But to defend him after he left, nah. Dick riders.

That’s the difference between watching from afar and going to the match I reckon. I don’t often say that, but this is one of those things. He did things on the pitch that made me laugh at the football because of their audacity. Not just the goals either. The 3rd nutmeg of an afternoon, or other such stuff. 
 

This was only a couple of years after going to the match had been the most draining, spirit sapping waste of time.

 

He gave me back my love for the game.

[Pidge]

Yeah something magical about watching him get to the byline and then turn the closing defender inside out.

[Creator Supreme]

Suarez remains the player I've seen live who gave the greatest performance I've ever seen, and we didn't even win the tie. I've never seen any other player torment the opposition for practically the whole game!

[Vincent Vega]

The fella looking at buying Everton. 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Chris said:

 

Actually quite a few (the diving, complaining, the feigning injury, the rushes of blood, the trolling) and then some. A little of the ol' racism and cannibalism. 

Absolute nonsense.

 

He was never half as bad a diver as he was painted. (Dave wrote an article in the fanzine about it before the Evra incident; well worth reading.) "Feigning injury" is horseshit, too. "Trolling" is just some mad invention you've pulled out of your arse. And the one time he has ever been accused of racism was thoroughly investigated, leading to a 150-page report that can be best summarised as "we found fuck all, but we said we'd throw the book at him, so here we go ".

 

But, yeah, if you're still broken hearted by a footballer going to play for another team, then making shit like this up might help; it's the perfect complement to a tub of Ben & Jerry's, a cheap Chardonnay and a Michael Bolton album.

[TD_LFC]

13 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

The fella looking at buying Everton. 

 

Lampard approves

 

[VladimirIlyich]

36 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Absolute nonsense.

 

He was never half as bad a diver as he was painted. (Dave wrote an article in the fanzine about it before the Evra incident; well worth reading.) "Feigning injury" is horseshit, too. "Trolling" is just some mad invention you've pulled out of your arse. And the one time he has ever been accused of racism was thoroughly investigated, leading to a 150-page report that can be best summarised as "we found fuck all, but we said we'd throw the book at him, so here we go ".

 

But, yeah, if you're still broken hearted by a footballer going to play for another team, then making shit like this up might help; it's the perfect complement to a tub of Ben & Jerry's, a cheap Chardonnay and a Michael Bolton album.

The racism charge was the biggest pile of bullshit I can remember. The fact that Liverpool 'fans' still call him a racist based on that evidence shows how little these people understand about the club or the city in general. A bit like the people whose first response to the problems in Paris were to attack our own fans first without any evidence at all. I feel ashamed that some alleged LFC fans don't know what 'the truth' was all about.

[Chris]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Absolute nonsense.

 

He was never half as bad a diver as he was painted. (Dave wrote an article in the fanzine about it before the Evra incident; well worth reading.) "Feigning injury" is horseshit, too. "Trolling" is just some mad invention you've pulled out of your arse. And the one time he has ever been accused of racism was thoroughly investigated, leading to a 150-page report that can be best summarised as "we found fuck all, but we said we'd throw the book at him, so here we go ".

 

But, yeah, if you're still broken hearted by a footballer going to play for another team, then making shit like this up might help; it's the perfect complement to a tub of Ben & Jerry's, a cheap Chardonnay and a Michael Bolton album.

 

That's one of the most revisionist posts I've ever read on here, and that's saying something. Making shit up? This is all perfectly well documented. There's red-tinted specs and then there's the above, which is just a flat out denial of quantifiable reality.

 

Not racist? Ok, sure, let's all buy that "but negrito is part of his language and cultural heritage, it's what they call their black mates there all the time!" nonsense that was parroted at the time. Yeah @dave u defended him a lot and wrote a lot of highly emotive/convincing stuff about it at the time. Which I agreed with at the time. He'd be the first to say (actually he wouldn't do be fair, given his current line of being the Klopp of the podcast) that him writing something  doesn't make it gospel.
 

Not feigning injury? It's an absolute trademark of his. Fall down, hold face, wave other in the air as if he needs an ambulance. It's one of those dumb "shithousery" things people absolutely buzz off for some reason. And year, he did fucking dive. All the time. Here's Exhibit A showcasing both of the above (and no I'm not going to rewatch every game to track every single one). 

 

 

I only mentioned trolling because of the context of the discussion. You actually said "what's the stuff he did that Richarlison does?" and people had brought up his trolling.

 

Upset he left? At the time, a bit. Not in hindsight. Ashamed to have supported him through the Erva stuff and the actual biting people stuff though.

 

He was a cunt, Richarlison is a cunt. The two key differences are: Suarez wore red and was a million times better at footy than the lad at Everton.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

10 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

That's one of the most revisionist posts I've ever read on here, and that's saying something. Making shit up? This is all perfectly well documented. There's red-tinted specs and then there's the above, which is just a flat out denial of quantifiable reality.

 

Not racist? Ok, sure, let's all buy that "but negrito is part of his language and cultural heritage, it's what they call their black mates there all the time!" nonsense that was parroted at the time. Yeah @dave u defended him a lot and wrote a lot of highly emotive/convincing stuff about it at the time. Which I agreed with at the time. He'd be the first to say (actually he wouldn't do be fair, given his current line of being the Klopp of the podcast) that him writing something  doesn't make it gospel.
 

Not feigning injury? It's an absolute trademark of his. Fall down, hold face, wave other in the air as if he needs an ambulance. It's one of those dumb "shithousery" things people absolutely buzz off for some reason. And year, he did fucking dive. All the time. Here's Exhibit A showcasing both of the above (and no I'm not going to rewatch every game to track every single one). 

 

 

I only mentioned trolling because of the context of the discussion. You actually said "what's the stuff he did that Richarlison does?" and people had brought up his trolling.

 

Upset he left? At the time, a bit. Not in hindsight. Ashamed to have supported him through the Erva stuff and the actual biting people stuff though.

 

He was a cunt, Richarlison is a cunt. The two key differences are: Suarez wore read and was a million times better at footy than the lad at Everton.

You're convinced that he's a racist, but you haven't even bothered to find out what word he was accused of saying. (Clue - it's not "negrito".)

 

The FA "independent" panel's report is available online. Read it. Reading is good.

[Anubis]

Add yourself to the cunt list, Chris.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

14 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

That's one of the most revisionist posts I've ever read on here, and that's saying something. Making shit up? This is all perfectly well documented. There's red-tinted specs and then there's the above, which is just a flat out denial of quantifiable reality.

 

Not racist? Ok, sure, let's all buy that "but negrito is part of his language and cultural heritage, it's what they call their black mates there all the time!" nonsense that was parroted at the time. Yeah @dave u defended him a lot and wrote a lot of highly emotive/convincing stuff about it at the time. Which I agreed with at the time. He'd be the first to say (actually he wouldn't do be fair, given his current line of being the Klopp of the podcast) that him writing something  doesn't make it gospel.
 

Not feigning injury? It's an absolute trademark of his. Fall down, hold face, wave other in the air as if he needs an ambulance. It's one of those dumb "shithousery" things people absolutely buzz off for some reason. And year, he did fucking dive. All the time. Here's Exhibit A showcasing both of the above (and no I'm not going to rewatch every game to track every single one). 

 

 

I only mentioned trolling because of the context of the discussion. You actually said "what's the stuff he did that Richarlison does?" and people had brought up his trolling.

 

Upset he left? At the time, a bit. Not in hindsight. Ashamed to have supported him through the Erva stuff and the actual biting people stuff though.

 

He was a cunt, Richarlison is a cunt. The two key differences are: Suarez wore read and was a million times better at footy than the lad at Everton.

So... you admit that you just pulled the "trolling" thing out of your arse.  You could just as accurately said "Suarez is as bad as Richarlison because he's got a big nose and shitty bleached hair".