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Klopp is a brilliant man and coach but he does seem to have a bit of an Achilles heel. He is far too loyal with some of his players and they let him down.

 

Two European Cup finals have been lost due to this misplaced loyalty. Admittedly we never would be near those finals without Jurgen but it's sad to see the same mistakes again and again. The next crunch game, Klopp will find out again.

It isnt just loyalty,it's also pragmatism.He understands that his job doesn't just allow him to buy £50 million players on a whim and has to get the best he can from what he has.When he spends big he also realises it can only happen when league position or winning a trophy allows it to happen.

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Is that Dr. Courtois?

He made a good point in that did the concussion help Karius make those 2 good saves? He is also a Gk who has been concussed, at no point has any doctor said Karius was concussed just lots of bullshit

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He made a good point in that did the concussion help Karius make those 2 good saves? He is also a Gk who has been concussed, at no point has any doctor said Karius was concussed just lots of bullshit

Apart from, y'know, those doctors who examined him and said he was concussed.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/loris-karius-suffered-concussion-in-champions-league-final-according-to-medical-report/a-44076876

 

Here's the deal: if Dr Ross Zafonte ever gives advice on goalkeeping, I'll be more inclined to listen to Thibaut Courtois; but on medical issues, I'll more likely trust a doctor than a goalie.

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Apart from, y'know, those doctors who examined him and said he was concussed.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/loris-karius-suffered-concussion-in-champions-league-final-according-to-medical-report/a-44076876

 

Here's the deal: if Dr Ross Zafonte ever gives advice on goalkeeping, I'll be more inclined to listen to Thibaut Courtois; but on medical issues, I'll more likely trust a doctor than a goalie.

While I am still hoping Karius turns out to be at least a half decent gk,I still call bollocks on the concussion theory. Just take responsibility for your own fuck ups please Loris.

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Has anyone heard Karius using the concussion excuse for the goals. I have not. All I have heard is reports medical tests said he had 26 of the 30 signs of concussion. I do not think Karius is shirking his responsibility.

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Has anyone heard Karius using the concussion excuse for the goals. I have not. All I have heard is reports medical tests said he had 26 of the 30 signs of concussion. I do not think Karius is shirking his responsibility.

 

Who really cares mate, It's just a thin veil to hide the fact he is nowhere near good enough to be our first choice keeper, Why risk yet more chances to find out what we already know.

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He wasn't good enough before the final. Take the final out, take concussion out.

 

 

I know.

 

But the Final really gave people a chance to sink the boot in.

 

So you have to hand it to the German lad for at least giving us that opportunity.

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While I am still hoping Karius turns out to be at least a half decent gk,I still call bollocks on the concussion theory. Just take responsibility for your own fuck ups please Loris.

Fine. It's one thing to say "I don't believe those doctors"; I just thought Istvan was going too far trying to Jedi mind-trick us into thinking there were no doctors.

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There have been a few posts on this forum, the gist of them being that taking Karius out of the firing line and signing someone like Alisson or Oblak will massively reduce the level of pressure and scrutiny on the team. The thing is, spending big on a goalkeeper is going to bring added scrutiny anyway. You can guarantee there will be people on this forum suggesting that spending so much on a goalkeeper means he should be stopping absolutely everything and coming away with a clean sheet from every match. Reality works very differently, and even the very best make mistakes.

 

In my view, what is important for our goalkeepers is that they are commanding and decisive both in communication and deed, and also consistent. Being able to earn us a few extra points a season is a bonus worth paying a premium for. After that, we have to ensure that our coaching set-up continues to improve them year on year.

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There's no point in making excuses for the fact that he's fuckin shite.

I had high hopes for him when we signed him. He has been a disaster and he's not going to get any better.

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There have been a few posts on this forum, the gist of them being that taking Karius out of the firing line and signing someone like Alisson or Oblak will massively reduce the level of pressure and scrutiny on the team. The thing is, spending big on a goalkeeper is going to bring added scrutiny anyway. You can guarantee there will be people on this forum suggesting that spending so much on a goalkeeper means he should be stopping absolutely everything and coming away with a clean sheet from every match. Reality works very differently, and even the very best make mistakes.

 

In my view, what is important for our goalkeepers is that they are commanding and decisive both in communication and deed, and also consistent. Being able to earn us a few extra points a season is a bonus worth paying a premium for. After that, we have to ensure that our coaching set-up continues to improve them year on year.

The coaching set up really does need to change if we are ever going to start to have top class goalkeepers playing for us again. The results of our current gk coaching set up have been terrible for a long time. Maybe,just maybe both Karius and Mignolet would be palatable if they had better coaches working with them? I realise it's a crazy theory but it's something we haven't tried in quite a while. It could even work out cheaper in the long run too.

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We all saw he was shite from day 1.

We've already been burned with him literally throwing away a champions league.

 

He'll do the same again.

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Who really cares mate, It's just a thin veil to hide the fact he is nowhere near good enough to be our first choice keeper, Why risk yet more chances to find out what we already know.

 

Yes I get all that. I really do. But it is the false or just plain inaccurate statements being bandied about that I questioned. If Karius is bleating to all and does not accept responsibility then fair enough. I have not seen any evidence of that. All I have seen or rather heard is that he showed 26 of 30 symptoms. Ergo on the balance of probability to me he did suffer concusion. Did that or shiteness cause the two goals is pretty immaterial in the scheme of things as they were the reason for our defeat.

 

And I keep saying it. I hope Jurgens decision to stick with Karius does not come back and bite him on the bum.

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We all saw he was shite from day 1.

We've already been burned with him literally throwing away a champions league.

 

He'll do the same again.

I get that you don't like him,like many others,but this 'shite from day one' is simply not true. We did get to the final with him in goal and finish 4th with him playing every game since January-ish so he wasn't that bad at all.

 

PS,I wish Karius went down as much as this new server on here does. It's far worse than Karius and Mignolet's worst performance put together.

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No team will win the Premier League without a top keeper. Look through the years at the keepers who have won it:

 

Schmeichel

Flowers

Seamen

Bosnich (Possibly the exception to my point) 

Barthez

Lehmann

Cech

Van Der Sar

De Gea

Hart

Courtois

K Schmeichel

Ederson

 

All (with the exception of Bosnich who only played 22 games that season anyway) you would class as very decent keepers. Karius and Mignolet are miles away from anyone on that list. If we sign a top keeper and no-one else I will be happy. 

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I just can't see how Karius could start the season as number 1, Danny Ward should start if we're not signing anyone. We should try sign Kasper Schmeichel, surely its time for him to leave Leicester. What would he cost 40 million?

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I just can't see how Karius could start the season as number 1, Danny Ward should start if we're not signing anyone. We should try sign Kasper Schmeichel, surely its time for him to leave Leicester. What would he cost 40 million?

He's pretty ordinary in my view.Tries too hard to be his Dad and not develop his own style.

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He's pretty ordinary in my view.Tries too hard to be his Dad and not develop his own style.

 

Worse habits for a keeper to have 

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There's no point in making excuses for the fact that he's fuckin shite.

I had high hopes for him when we signed him. He has been a disaster and he's not going to get any better.

10 clean sheets in 19 League games.

 

Fucking disastrous.

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Both him and Mignolet were stady having atleast one Cock-up each fucking game they played.

Each game I was just waiting for it to happen, hoping that it wouldn`t cost us the game.

 

I feel sorry for the defenders having to play With one of these two clowns behind them, just knowing each time the keeper has to kick it past the halfway line you never know just what the hell will ensue.

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10 clean sheets in 19 League games.

 

Fucking disastrous.

Yeah, it's really daft. I fucking hated the European Cup Final as much as anyone, but that doesn't mean he was complete fucking shit. In fact, Klopp was being praised for making the decision to stick with him. Him being a useless fucking cunt in the final doesn't mean he was completely useless before that.

 

Same old shit.

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Him being a useless fucking cunt in the final doesn't mean he was completely useless before that.Same old shit.

Negged for being a blind cunt.

 

He is, and always will be, completely useless.

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