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3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Muslim fella has been arrested in Golders Green for apparently trying to attack some Jewish people with a knife, nobody hurt thankfully. 

 

The world is truly on fire. 

Fucks sake, this what happens when no cunt takes responsibility and condemns a genocide, innocent fucking people end up getting hurt.

 

I'm hoping nobody is hurt.

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On 30/12/2023 at 18:12, Strontium said:

 

Jurgen Knows at least has said it too. 


You lie. I dare you to quote me saying jews are not jews but European imposters. I have a lot of Jewish heroes that I hold in very high regard, and I always quote them on the Israel thread.

 

What I said was that Zionists (Not Jews) are mostly European immigrants to Palestine.

 

You lie. Not surprising.

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3 minutes ago, Jurgen Knows said:

You lie. I dare you to quote me saying jews are not jews but European imposters. I have a lot of Jewish heroes that I hold in very high regard, and I always quote them on the Israel thread.

 

What I said was that Zionists (Not Jews) are mostly European immigrants to Palestine.

 

You lie. Not surprising.

 

So, Ashkenazi Jews then. Not a lie.

 

Keep on thinking that Jews are liars, though, seems it's necessary for your worldview.

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7 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

So, Ashkenazi Jews then. Not a lie.

 

Keep on thinking that Jews are liars, though, seems it's necessary for your worldview.


There’s a big difference between zionist and jew. Not all jews are zionist. Not all zionists are jews. My biggest heroes are jews (Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, Gideon Levy, Noam Chomsky … to name a few).

 

Zionists lie. Yes. 100%.

 

Zionism is a political movement. Not a religion nor an ethnicity.

 

Jew is not the same as zionist, no matter how hard you try to conflate the two.

 

Quote me. I dare you. 

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6 minutes ago, Jurgen Knows said:

There’s a big difference between zionist and jew. Not all jews are zionist. Not all zionists are jews. My biggest heroes are jews (Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, Gideon Levy, Noam Chomsky … to name a few).

 

Zionists lie. Yes. 100%.

 

Zionism is a political movement. Not a religion nor an ethnicity.

 

Jew is not the same as zionist, no matter how hard you try to conflate the two.

 

Quote me. I dare you. 

 

I didn't say Jews and Zionists were the same thing though. You're the one conflating the terms, so you can attack Jews while pretending that you're not attacking Jews.

 

Because your words "Zionists (Not Jews) are mostly European immigrants to Palestine" doesn't make a shred of sense otherwise. You claim not to be talking about Jews, but the only Zionists who migrated to Palestine are Jews. So who are these non-Jewish Zionists who made Aliyah?

 

You posted Khazar conspiracy stuff off Twitter, if you think I'm wading through pages of a shitty thread to dig it out, guess again, but you know what you posted.

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8 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

I didn't say Jews and Zionists were the same thing though. You're the one conflating the terms, so you can attack Jews while pretending that you're not attacking Jews.

 

Because your words "Zionists (Not Jews) are mostly European immigrants to Palestine" doesn't make a shred of sense otherwise. You claim not to be talking about Jews, but the only Zionists who migrated to Palestine are Jews. So who are these non-Jewish Zionists who made Aliyah?

 

You posted Khazar conspiracy stuff off Twitter, if you think I'm wading through pages of a shitty thread to dig it out, guess again, but you know what you posted.

 

You can usually pull up a post from 10 years ago within seconds. Any reason you don't want to do so in this instance? 

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2 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

I didn't say Jews and Zionists were the same thing though. You're the one conflating the terms, so you can attack Jews while pretending that you're not attacking Jews.

 

I never attacked jews. Not once. In fact I always sing the praises of Jewish heroes who expose Zionist lies. I double dare you to quote one post where I attacked Jews.

 

2 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Because your words "Zionists (Not Jews) are mostly European immigrants to Palestine" doesn't make a shred of sense otherwise. You claim not to be talking about Jews, but the only Zionists who migrated to Palestine are Jews. So who are these non-Jewish Zionists who made Aliyah?

 

Any jew who migrated to Palestine from anywhere in the world and speaks the truth regarding zionist lies is like a brother and hero to me (see Ilan Pappe, Gideon Levy, Miko Peled for examples). I have no problem with any jew for being a jew. I cannot be clearer than that. And again I double dare you to quote one post where I say otherwise.

 

I’m not responsible for what goes in your head. I’m only responsible for what I post.

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1 hour ago, Creator Supreme said:

Fucks sake, this what happens when no cunt takes responsibility and condemns a genocide, innocent fucking people end up getting hurt.

 

I'm hoping nobody is hurt.


Nothing justifies attacking innocent people. Whoever did that is a cunt of the highest order.

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19 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You can usually pull up a post from 10 years ago within seconds. Any reason you don't want to do so in this instance? 

 

It's not a case of not wanting to, but the search function only works on posts, it can't search Twitter posts within posts.

 

I will try later if I have time, but it's a pretty rum do that my words aren't taken at face value.

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37 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

It's not a case of not wanting to, but the search function only works on posts, it can't search Twitter posts within posts.

 

I will try later if I have time, but it's a pretty rum do that my words aren't taken at face value.

 

It's your word against his. You used the phrase "your words" so did he post a tweet from his own twitter account using those words? I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just dying to see who is wrong and right here. 

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I searched for posts where I mention jews on that thread … here’s a sample of “my words”:

 

On 07/11/2023 at 19:12, Jurgen Knows said:

How muslims and jews lived together before zionism, from a jewish rabbi:

 

https://x.com/torahjudaism/status/1721855467742265636?s=46&t=rTM5huSAdkyumn9JrNS_MQ

 

On 07/11/2023 at 19:20, Jurgen Knows said:

 

On 08/11/2023 at 09:51, Jurgen Knows said:

 

On 08/11/2023 at 17:31, Jurgen Knows said:


If you think it is fair to paint all Israelis with the same brush because 17 soldiers and 5 civilians committed this crime then it’s your opinion. I just don’t think it’s right.


I’m not arsed to defend zionists. All I’d say is that convicted criminals tend to end up there because the zionists are desperate to bring people to Israel, with little or no vetting process. It is enough to be a jew to be allowed entry and given a passport.

 

 

On 10/11/2023 at 17:37, Jurgen Knows said:

Watch this video to see how jews, christians and muslims lived together in Palestine before the zionist occupation.

 

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1722966309061767460?s=46&t=rTM5huSAdkyumn9JrNS_MQ

 

On 10/11/2023 at 20:41, Jurgen Knows said:

This jewish guy can go into any Palestinian house and he’ll be made to feel at home


https://x.com/samparkersenate/status/1722977782496641080?s=46&t=rTM5huSAdkyumn9JrNS_MQ

 

On 16/11/2023 at 14:13, Jurgen Knows said:

Jewish voices of reason addressing every debate about zionism here - worth watching if you want to see through the lies:

 

https://x.com/leecamp/status/1724849099956994420?s=46&t=rTM5huSAdkyumn9JrNS_MQ

 

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31 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

It's your word against his. You used the phrase "your words" so did he post a tweet from his own twitter account using those words? I'm not saying you're lying, I'm just dying to see who is wrong and right here. 

 

Here's the Khazar conspiracy stuff, November 24th. You actually quoted his post three posts after.

 

 

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I found the post he is referring to. Here it is:

 

On 24/11/2023 at 13:49, Jurgen Knows said:

 

This was a study conducted by Dr. Areilla Oppenheim from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, who did the first extensive DNA study in 2001 on Israelis and Palestinians, and concluded that emigrants on ships to Palestine before it became Israel were 40% Mongolian and 40% Turkish. 
 

1. Being of Mongolian or Turkish origin doesn’t mean they were not jews.
 

2. The word semite doesn’t equate to the word jew. I myself am a non-jewish semite.

 

According to the study (conducted by a jew) many jews who immigrated to Palestine were not of semitic origins. That doesn’t mean they are not jews. Nor is it a slur on jews. 
 

Play another game.

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9 minutes ago, Jurgen Knows said:

1. Being of Mongolian or Turkish origin doesn’t mean they were not jews.

 

No, that's exactly what it would mean. Jews are Jews because they can trace their ancestry to Judea. Not Turkey or Mongolia, no matter how many DNA studies you misrepresent or however many Nazi Twitter accounts you cite.

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1 minute ago, Strontium said:

 

No, that's exactly what it would mean. Jews are Jews because they can trace their ancestry to Judea. Not Turkey or Mongolia, no matter how many DNA studies you misrepresent or however many Nazi Twitter accounts you cite.


Interesting. So if let’s say an Indian person converts from Hinduism to Judaism … would he still not be considered a jew? A bit racist that no?

 

In my understanding of religion, where you come from doesn’t prevent you from joining.

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