Aston Villa (H) - Sun 3rd Sep 2023 (2:00pm)

[El Rojo]

That high line Villa seemed to be playing was utter madness. We kept catching them with long balls. Strange for a coach as good as Emery to go into a game as exposed as that. 

[Scott_M]

14 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

You've got to laugh at the calls saying Salah was in the keepers line of sight and offside from Wright and co. The keeper isn't saving that in a million years!

While I agree Martinez is never saving it, Villa might have a point. You could definitely argue Mo in his line of sight there. 

 

 

I know 3 Villa players then also get in his vision and it’s in, it’s not really the point. 
 

After the decision at the Emptyhad on Saturday, if they’d have disallowed this, it would have been a disgrace. 

[TD_LFC]

They've been playing a highline a lot early on this season, it's why I said after the Newcastle game, and Klopp's comments, that Nunez was an option.

[Carra_is_legend]

17 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

You've got to laugh at the calls saying Salah was in the keepers line of sight and offside from Wright and co. The keeper isn't saving that in a million years!

 

Its the level of punditry in this country, coupled with the level of referees. Its fucking pathetic that they somehow feel like they have to find something to bring a controversy. What makes it worse is these twats actually played the game. 

 

Schmeichel was so bad yesterday, he was desperate to search for something to find fault with every goal. 

[El Rojo]

Minor gripe in the circumstances, but Nunez really needs to be putting away a goal himself in a game like yesterday. The few chances he had were easier than his two goals at Newcastle last week. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, stringvest said:

I think the new LB role would suit Kostas far more than it does Robertson.  Hopefully we’ll be back up to speed with our CBs soon

you used to say that about the old role. you were wrong then too. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

1 hour ago, CapeRed said:

Thats not a shocker it’s 50 /50 some you get some you don’t. Certainly the best ref performance in any of our games this season.

It wasn’t a 50/50 decision. It was 100/0. A totally wrong decision, potentially deciding the outcome of the match.

[Carra_is_legend]

30 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Minor gripe in the circumstances, but Nunez really needs to be putting away a goal himself in a game like yesterday. The few chances he had were easier than his two goals at Newcastle last week. 

Exactly what I said yesterday. He should have atleast had one goal yesterday, he is going to get many of the easy chances he had. 

[stringvest]

13 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

you used to say that about the old role. you were wrong then too. 

 

it's science.  A two footed more mobile player with more game intelligence is always going to be a step up when those attributes become more important.

[Daisy]

I don't think any of Nunez chances were that easy

[Barrington Womble]

18 minutes ago, stringvest said:

 

it's science.  A two footed more mobile player with more game intelligence is always going to be a step up when those attributes become more important.

i think we disagree about both players merits. i agree kostas is 2 footed, but we've done this before - he is not a smarter player in anyway at all. 

[stringvest]

Just now, Barrington Womble said:

i think we disagree about both players merits. i agree kostas is 2 footed, but we've done this before - he is not a smarter player in anyway at all. 

 

I think you're wrong.  I think Robertson makes poor decisions in most games.  I don't think he's a bad player, I just don't think he's as good as Kostas.

[BeefStroganoff]

27 minutes ago, Carra_is_legend said:

Exactly what I said yesterday. He should have atleast had one goal yesterday, he is going to get many of the easy chances he had. 

He should have scored the one that hit the post but was unlucky with the second half chance as the keeper slightly diverted the ball.

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, stringvest said:

 

I think you're wrong.  I think Robertson makes poor decisions in most games.  I don't think he's a bad player, I just don't think he's as good as Kostas.

it's not a loop i want to go round on again really. i get it's what you believe, I just disagree with it. 

[CapeRed]

27 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I don't think any of Nunez chances were that easy

Yeah I agree . His chip that hit the bar was really unlucky . I think the one he headed wide was the result of Martinez getting a touch to the cross which impacted the speed and flight of the ball.

[CapeRed]

55 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

It wasn’t a 50/50 decision. It was 100/0. A totally wrong decision, potentially deciding the outcome of the match.

Nonsense , even if I agreed that the decision was wrong (I don’t) it wouldn’t have been a game changer.

[Barrington Womble]

1 minute ago, CapeRed said:

Yeah I agree . His chip that hit the bar was really unlucky . I think the one he headed wide was the result of Martinez getting a touch to the cross which impacted the speed and flight of the ball.

yeah, i think the ball was going onto his feet until martinez touched it and he did well to make a header out of it. 

 

but he has a goal involvement at around every 30 mins so far this season. now he needs more minutes. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

2 hours ago, Carra_is_legend said:

 

It was not a foul at all, it was just a simple case of a striker & a defender fighting for the ball. There was no reason for him to flag for it. 

Exactly, and it seems we agree upon that. My initial post may not have been clear enough, but this was my point. By making a major mistake the ref denied us a very good opportunity. Potentially deciding the outcome of the game.

[etho]

Got to be playing Nunez every week. Harsh for Gakpo and Jota but they're the squad players in my eyes, the front 3 is Diaz Nunez Salah

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

2 minutes ago, CapeRed said:

Nonsense , even if I agreed that the decision was wrong (I don’t) it wouldn’t have been a game changer.

Of course it could have changed the game. Salah was picking up the loose ball and had plenty of space to take it into the penalty area with their defence off balance. It was a great piece of pressing, we won the ball in a very dangerous area and teams of our attacking quality tend to take advantage. 

[El Rojo]

7 minutes ago, etho said:

Got to be playing Nunez every week. Harsh for Gakpo and Jota but they're the squad players in my eyes, the front 3 is Diaz Nunez Salah

I thought Gakpo was brilliant last season once he settled. Really smart footballer with great movement. And when Jota hits a streak he keeps scoring. Some good headaches for Klopp. 

[VladimirIlyich]

50 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I don't think any of Nunez chances were that easy

They werent. But if you have an agenda you cant admit defeat on the internet.

[Jose Jones]

1 minute ago, VladimirIlyich said:

They werent. But if you have an agenda you cant admit defeat on the internet.

He should definitely have scored the one that hit the post, that’s about as good a chance as you can get. Still went in though thanks to Cash, so no harm done in hitting the post.

 

[El Rojo]

2 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

They werent. But if you have an agenda you cant admit defeat on the internet.

 

It was me who posted, and I love Nunez. I'm not sure constructive criticism is the same thing as an agenda. 

[Barrington Womble]

13 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

I thought Gakpo was brilliant last season once he settled. Really smart footballer with great movement. And when Jota hits a streak he keeps scoring. Some good headaches for Klopp. 

i think it has been a tough start so far for gakpo though - mostly not all his doing, but he has struggled a little. i am sure when he starts getting game time in those forward positions we will start seeing more from him, but it will be interesting where he gets his minutes. i don't much see him as player who makes his impact off the bench.