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Someone's having a real laugh - sperm of gollum to Utd.


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4 hours ago, Elite said:

They'll surely come good again eventually. During our barren spell I don't ever remember us spending anywhere near the cash they do relative to the era. That's why I'm enjoying it while I lasts but even if they do come good, they won't have a sustained period of dominance like they had in the Ferguson days.

Who knows, honestly. The thing about us was, despite what a lot of people thought, the people running the club had the capacity to be competent. Then we got the right guy in charge and that became apparent. For them, even if they get a top manager, is Ed Woodward ever going to figure it out? That's the real question.

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1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

Who knows, honestly. The thing about us was, despite what a lot of people thought, the people running the club had the capacity to be competent. Then we got the right guy in charge and that became apparent. For them, even if they get a top manager, is Ed Woodward ever going to figure it out? That's the real question.

The thing is the fans blame Woodward, but he has financially backed every United manager. They have spent an enormous amount of money on players, a lot of whom were deemed world class or close to it when they signed them. In terms of managers, they gave the gig to Fergie's chosen one in Moyes, two A listers in Mourinho and Van Gaal and the fans choice after his run of wins in Ole. Every time, they are about to sack him, he does something mental like beating PSG 2-1 in Paris or beating Leipzig 5-0. 

 

I think United fans need to look at themselves. They go on about a project but how many of them would be willing to wait 3-4 years to build something great. The fact is they expect instant success. It doesn't come easily to a club when you lose the winning mentality and they certainly have. 

 

They have some fine players. Rashford, Fernandes and Martial are very good. Greenwood is potentially world class. Van De Beek is a brilliant player. Cavani was a brilliant player with a winning mentality - he will add something to them. Don't know much about Telles to be fair. The rest of their squad is mediocre or have poor character like Pogba. I even suspect that Martial is a dodgy character with little backbone.

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48 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

The thing is the fans blame Woodward, but he has financially backed every United manager. They have spent an enormous amount of money on players, a lot of whom were deemed world class or close to it when they signed them. In terms of managers, they gave the gig to Fergie's chosen one in Moyes, two A listers in Mourinho and Van Gaal and the fans choice after his run of wins in Ole. Every time, they are about to sack him, he does something mental like beating PSG 2-1 in Paris or beating Leipzig 5-0. 

 

I think United fans need to look at themselves. They go on about a project but how many of them would be willing to wait 3-4 years to build something great. The fact is they expect instant success. It doesn't come easily to a club when you lose the winning mentality and they certainly have. 

 

They have some fine players. Rashford, Fernandes and Martial are very good. Greenwood is potentially world class. Van De Beek is a brilliant player. Cavani was a brilliant player with a winning mentality - he will add something to them. Don't know much about Telles to be fair. The rest of their squad is mediocre or have poor character like Pogba. I even suspect that Martial is a dodgy character with little backbone.

It's not about financial backing. He runs the club in a really poor way football wise. There's no one in charge of transfers, managers get annoyed at him because he's the one supposed to be closing the deals and there's always some weird stuff that comes out about how incompetent he is at that. It's just hard to imagine top class managers wanting to work with that.

 

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18 hours ago, The Guest said:

This sort of stuff is just nonsense.  He was at a club that’s in a similar boat as us.  Competing against clubs who’ve got either infinite money, a shitload of money and in their specific case a club with Klopp in charge of them.  They don’t have the historic draw we do either.

 

It’s the exact sort of reasoning that’s got United in the state they are in.  Hiring Van Gaal and Mourinho because they’re winners.  It’s just complete shit.  He’s driving a Ford Escort in an F1 race yet you get people coming out with shit like this when he manages to get them to a champions league final but get beat.  He’s a good manager and he will prove it when he takes over one of these clubs he was struggling to compete against.  If you can’t see that then you’re as blind as the manc fans who continually back this complete imbecile.


So what has he won? 

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3 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I think Pochettino is nailed on and its a damn fucking shame. A high pressing, high energy united who believe in the managers philosophy. I dont really like that.The fat hamster twat.

Emerson Cavani is going to retire and star in Moneysupermarket.com adverts as Skeletor.

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3 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I think Pochettino is nailed on and its a damn fucking shame. A high pressing, high energy united who believe in the managers philosophy. I dont really like that.The fat hamster twat.

Lindelof will still be afraid of his own shadow and playing that high line with slabhead will be a recipe for disaster.

 

Hahaha now I want to see it.

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7 hours ago, Elite said:

They'll surely come good again eventually. During our barren spell I don't ever remember us spending anywhere near the cash they do relative to the era. That's why I'm enjoying it while I lasts but even if they do come good, they won't have a sustained period of dominance like they had in the Ferguson days.

In the long run we're all dead.

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7 hours ago, Elite said:

They'll surely come good again eventually. During our barren spell I don't ever remember us spending anywhere near the cash they do relative to the era. That's why I'm enjoying it while I lasts but even if they do come good, they won't have a sustained period of dominance like they had in the Ferguson days.


Not sure about that. 
 

Saunders, Wright, Collymore, Babb, Clough, Scales, Heskey, Ince, Diouf & Carroll (and I’m sure I’ve missed a few) where all very, very significant chunks of money at the time. 
 

Were Saunders and Collymore British transfer records at the time? Babb was a record for a defender at the time, Wright maybe as well.

 

They are 8 years into their titleless cycle (they won’t win the league this season either), let’s hope that it’s another 22 years minimum before they are of any relevance.

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2 minutes ago, Scott_M said:


Not sure about that. 
 

Saunders, Wright, Collymore, Babb, Clough, Scales, Heskey, Diouf & Carroll (and I’m sure I’ve missed a few) where all very, very significant chunks of money at the time. 
 

Were Saunders and Collymore British transfer records at the time? Babb was a record for a defender at the time, Wright maybe as well.

The mancs still outspent us and are still doing so, despite our fortunes being reversed.

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3 minutes ago, Elite said:

The mancs still outspent us and are still doing so, despite our fortunes being reversed.


Their spending definitely pulled away from ours around the turn of the century, but they were being ran like a global operation by then and we were still being run like a school break time tuck shop. 
 

Now, we’re a well ran operation and they are like some old guy on a date with a much younger model trying to spend his way into her knickers. 

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2 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

The thing is the fans blame Woodward, but he has financially backed every United manager. They have spent an enormous amount of money on players, a lot of whom were deemed world class or close to it when they signed them. In terms of managers, they gave the gig to Fergie's chosen one in Moyes, two A listers in Mourinho and Van Gaal and the fans choice after his run of wins in Ole. Every time, they are about to sack him, he does something mental like beating PSG 2-1 in Paris or beating Leipzig 5-0. 

 

I think United fans need to look at themselves. They go on about a project but how many of them would be willing to wait 3-4 years to build something great. The fact is they expect instant success. It doesn't come easily to a club when you lose the winning mentality and they certainly have. 

 

They have some fine players. Rashford, Fernandes and Martial are very good. Greenwood is potentially world class. Van De Beek is a brilliant player. Cavani was a brilliant player with a winning mentality - he will add something to them. Don't know much about Telles to be fair. The rest of their squad is mediocre or have poor character like Pogba. I even suspect that Martial is a dodgy character with little backbone.


Replace Woodward with Rick Parry and then replace their coaches and players with Souness, Houllier & Benitez and Fowler, Owen, McManaman & Gerrard and you could be reading our story from 1990 to 2020.

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Pochettino would be a success at the mancs. 
 

He’d want to play a similar brand to Klopp - intense pressing, high line, quick transitions etc etc - to say Pogba, Lindelof, Martial etc won’t take to forget that not every player Klopp inherited were good enough for his system as well. Over time, these players have gone and better / more attuned players have come in.

 

It’ll be similar Pochettino if he goes to the mancs, but it might happen quicker due to their deeper pockets. Players who fit will remain, those who don’t fit will be shipped out and replaced with better players who do fit. 
 

Whether he’d be Klopp levels of success is obviously debatable. But over time, he’d be better than the shite they’ve served up since 2013.

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Utd could do a lot worse than poaching Hassenhutl right now. I could see them excelling in his narrow 4-4-2 formation as well. Two from Rashford, Martial and Greenwood upfront. Pogba could play on the left of the midfield, and Bruno on the right, both with the license to roam. 

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4 hours ago, aRdja said:

Utd could do a lot worse than poaching Hassenhutl right now. I could see them excelling in his narrow 4-4-2 formation as well. Two from Rashford, Martial and Greenwood upfront. Pogba could play on the left of the midfield, and Bruno on the right, both with the license to roam. 

Is this anyone's natural position? Including Hassenhutl? 

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