Jonjo shelvey

[Nick Leeson]

I didn't mind him before but now I have HD I find it quite difficult to watch the game once he's brought on. He's basically a hairless Rocky Dennis

[LFC 6 Times]

I haven't written him off I just haven't seen anything in his game that stands out or will improve vastly, we need to be ruthless look at united Kieron Richardson was a highly rated prospect and semi broke into the first team he's now a utilty player for fat head

[lebron]

Don't rate him at all. Doesn't have a football brain or the technique.

 

And it pains me to say that about one of our youngsters.

 

Wow! I'd say those were his two stronger points, along with his passing ability. Obvious lack of (turn of) pace, yes, but I think he'll look much improved if he gets a run out in one of the three central positions. How good would Cesc look if played as a right midfielder where his (relative) lack of pace would be exposed? How good has Raul looked out wide when used there?

 

That being said, I find it a bit strange that Kenny keeps picking him out there. Probably because of his work rate and commitment, maybe he fancies him to play a killer pass as well?

[billypilgrimnz]

I think he has the skills, but he is so damn slow. He has found himself on the flanks so much this season, it makes him look worse than I think he actually is.

[Mr Mojo]

I like him and have faith he'll become a decent player.

[The Dude Abides]

I've never been that impressed by him tbh, but today was maybe his best showing. I thought his touch looked good at the very least. should probably go out on loan next season either way as with Spearing and Lucas we're well covered in the average to okay department in central mid-field for next season.

[chauncey]

Well if the knowledgeable fanz from da internetz say he's not good enough then that's me convinced!

 

Sure he might look - and occasionally play - like a leukaemia survivor but the lad's obviously won enough trust from Kenny (and Budgie, for that matter) to be picked ahead of Poulsen, Cole and Maxi. Still, they only get to see him in training - what the fuck would they know.

[gkmacca]

He's captained England at every available level so far, and dominated some matches. He's a young lad but he's got huge potential. Give him some time and trust.

[Wor Horse]

Don't rate him at all. Doesn't have a football brain or the technique.

 

And it pains me to say that about one of our youngsters.

 

That's utter bollocks.

[Jose Jones]

He's got a bit about him I reckon, but is obviously a fair way off so could go either way.

[Guest ShoePiss]

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We have dickheads following us and Jonjo is 19 years old

 

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[MLB]

Lack of pace seems to be his major flaw. If he can compensate for this by improving in other areas I don't see why he can't make the grade. I do think that a season out on loan would benefit both him and Wilson though.

[Code]

I have confidence in those that was involved in him coming here and those that are using him in the side to have a better grasp on whether he'll do well for us that I have.

 

With an attitude like that why even post on a forum?

 

Did you say the same about Degen, Jovanovic, Dossena, Poulsen etc?

 

Shelvey has showed nothing to suggest he will make it here, he is slow, decent on the ball, his passing is nothing special and he makes starnge decisions.

 

Some of the faults he has shown up to now will get better with age and experience, but to me it looks like he could be one of those young players who have had "early success" as a result of him being bigger and stronger than the others.

 

I could be wrong obviously but I would be amazed if he ever becomes a regular starter for us and if he does I doubt we will be fighting for the title.

[Eljeficito]

the lad is 18 for christs sake. Could do with a loan spell to a championship side maybe but for crying out loud he is still a kid learning his trade.

[Trumo]

He's looked rusty in his last couple of appearances, of that there's no doubt. However he is still extremely young and should be persevered with. I agree that a spell on loan for next season, even in the Championship, would be of major benefit to him.

[RedinSweden]

I don't think he is quite ready, going off the little we have seen of him. I have no idea if that means he never will though. A loan might be a good idea. he must have something though as kenny seems to rate him.

[MLB]

You also have to remember that most of the time we've seen him play has been under Roy. Look what Roy did to the likes of Johnson and Skrtel. They looked like dogshit playing for him. Once he is match fit and played a few times under Kenny I think we'll have a better idea of his qualities.

[dennis tooth]

Don't think he's quite as good as he think's he is.

[Christian]

Don't think he's quite as good as he think's he is.

 

That's quite a good point actually - but I'm hoping that cocky nature is actually well founded and he'll become a top player for us.

Kenny seems to like the lad and has put him straight back in after injury.

[redmachine23]

Cracking player, willing, good engine, good awareness, good passing and will only get better. Watche dhim loads when he was at Charlton, Was the main man there. I know it's a step up but he'll be a top player.

He'd just come back from months out injured!

Give him a break.

[silverlining]

Don't think he's quite as good as he think's he is.

 

Which was a common complaint from Charlton fans about him.

 

He has talent, and has had a lot of attention and praise from a young age, but he only has to look at Jermaine Pennant to know that that isn't enough without application and mentality, especially if that talent isn't quite as stellar as everyone thought.

 

I think he can look a bit "leggy" at times - he's certainly got very little zip or pace anyway - but his confidence and technique are positives.

[dennis tooth]

Which was a common complaint from Charlton fans about him.

 

He has talent, and has had a lot of attention and praise from a young age, but he only has to look at Jermaine Pennant to know that that isn't enough without application and mentality, especially if that talent isn't quite as stellar as everyone thought.

 

I think he can look a bit "leggy" at times - he's certainly got very little zip or pace anyway - but his confidence and technique are positives.

 

Hope he can back it up but he cant/hasn't quite done anything yet. He's never a right mid and despite what some have said for me he's no centre mid either and thats the biggest issue I have with Jonjo, where is he meant to be playing, I mean, what's his natural position, behind a striker is where I see him but then his shooting looks a bit and he isn't that quick so I really can't fathom where he will end up and doing what job. Not writing him off by any means, I just have to learn to be patient to work it all out I suppose.

[Top of the Kop]

With an attitude like that why even post on a forum?

 

Did you say the same about Degen, Jovanovic, Dossena, Poulsen etc?

 

Shelvey has showed nothing to suggest he will make it here, he is slow, decent on the ball, his passing is nothing special and he makes starnge decisions.

 

Some of the faults he has shown up to now will get better with age and experience, but to me it looks like he could be one of those young players who have had "early success" as a result of him being bigger and stronger than the others.

 

I could be wrong obviously but I would be amazed if he ever becomes a regular starter for us and if he does I doubt we will be fighting for the title.

 

Well that's me convinced - the lad is going to be a star.

[Randy Marsh]

He's captained England at every available level so far, and dominated some matches. He's a young lad but he's got huge potential. Give him some time and trust.

 

Is right. He's a kid, why are people so inpatient? Give him chance. Kenny has faith in him so that's enough for me.

[Istvan Kozma]

I say, that teenager coming back from an injury, coming on as sub and paying out of position in a unfamiliar makeshift team against title contenders didn't look too inspiring immediately. This worries me. We should buy ready made internationals because they never fail.

Unfortunately nobody cares what I think because I am a fucking whopper posting on an internet forum on a Monday morning, so perhaps I should spend more time getting behind the positive aspects of trying youngsters out and gaining them invaluable experience until they find their feet. If Joe Cole had started I would have started a thread saying 'why not give the youngsters a chance, they will at least be hungry and give 100% and gain experience.'

I am a modern day wank merchant.

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