Joel Matip

[an tha]

4 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Love Big Bird.

 

An absolutely brilliant player for us. If he stays fit and Virgil continues to look his old self, we have a real chance of winning the league.

 

Hansen, Lawro and Virgil are the three best I've seen for us, but Joel is possibly fourth. 

Big shout putting him ahead of Hyypia IMO.

 

Obviously would depend on your age about whether Hughes and others come into the picture too.

[Code]

44 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Konate was our best player in Paris. 

No he was not, we lost that game because he played. 

[3 Stacks]

2 hours ago, Code said:

No he was not, we lost that game because he played. 

We would have lost the game 4-0 if Matip had played. Great how hypotheticals work eh. 

 

[Jose Jones]

3 hours ago, Code said:

No he was not, we lost that game because he played. 

Konate was probably our best player in Paris, had nothing to do with the goal we conceded, or the jammy one we just about got away with.

 

We lost because we didn’t create enough when we were on top in the first half, and because Mo didn’t bury that chance at the end.

[Code]

7 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

We would have lost the game 4-0 if Matip had played. Great how hypotheticals work eh. 

 

Okay. 
 

But considering your football knowledge can be put on the back of a stamp, I think I’ll go with the first take. 

[El Rojo]

10 hours ago, Code said:

No he was not, we lost that game because he played. 

 

Thought Konate was really good myself that night, Code.

 

In broader terms, I think we exaggerate how well we played that night sometimes. We created plenty of half-chances but seemed to scuff or mis-hit every final shot. I don't think Courtois had the blinder that was made out afterwards - they were generally routine saves. 

 

I reckon we could still be playing that match and Real would still be winning 1-0. We've a real mental block when we play them.  

[VladimirIlyich]

21 hours ago, The Midnight Rambler said:

I've never seen a defender that carries the ball as well as he does. Not in English football anyway.

You aren't old enough to have seen Hansen or Lawrenson then? Not taking anything away from Matip either,he has been brilliant so far this season after probably his worst season for us last year.

[Ronnie Whelan]

12 hours ago, an tha said:

Big shout putting him ahead of Hyypia IMO.

 

Obviously would depend on your age about whether Hughes and others come into the picture too.

Hughes might be fourth to be fair. Hyypia was brilliant. I don't know would he look even more brilliant beside better players and to be fair to Matip, he has played with exceptional players and in an exceptional team which Sami didn't. Hard one to call that. 

Still Matip needs to get a bit of love. Phenomenal player for us.

[TheHowieLama]

Matip is good but he has never been very good/great unless he was standing next to Van Dijk.

 

As the senior partner he has put in some woeful shifts when VvD is out.

He is Sturridge to VvD's Suarez.

[3 Stacks]

3 hours ago, Code said:

Okay. 
 

But considering your football knowledge can be put on the back of a stamp, I think I’ll go with the first take. 

Heres another one; if you never existed, Liverpool would have 15 European Cups. Hows that?

[Code]

3 hours ago, El Rojo said:

 

Thought Konate was really good myself that night, Code.

 

In broader terms, I think we exaggerate how well we played that night sometimes. We created plenty of half-chances but seemed to scuff or mis-hit every final shot. I don't think Courtois had the blinder that was made out afterwards - they were generally routine saves. 

 

I reckon we could still be playing that match and Real would still be winning 1-0. We've a real mental block when we play them.  

The criticism is not because of what Konate did in that game, its because of what he did not do and did not bring to the table that night. 

[Code]

55 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Matip is good but he has never been very good/great unless he was standing next to Van Dijk.

 

As the senior partner he has put in some woeful shifts when VvD is out.

He is Sturridge to VvD's Suarez.

Matip was brilliant long before we bought Van Dijk, so thats not true. 

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Code said:

Matip was brilliant long before we bought Van Dijk, so thats not true. 

 

He was better than what we had when he first arrived - then injured half the time until Vvd arrived.

[LFC 6 Times]

8 hours ago, El Rojo said:

 

Thought Konate was really good myself that night, Code.

 

In broader terms, I think we exaggerate how well we played that night sometimes. We created plenty of half-chances but seemed to scuff or mis-hit every final shot. I don't think Courtois had the blinder that was made out afterwards - they were generally routine saves. 

 

I reckon we could still be playing that match and Real would still be winning 1-0. We've a real mental block when we play them.  

That save from Mane onto the post is one of the best saves of all time. Still fucking haunts me.

[an tha]

7 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Hughes might be fourth to be fair. Hyypia was brilliant. I don't know would he look even more brilliant beside better players and to be fair to Matip, he has played with exceptional players and in an exceptional team which Sami didn't. Hard one to call that. 

Still Matip needs to get a bit of love. Phenomenal player for us.

For me Matip's injury record gets in the way of him being really high up the list - but he is without doubt a very good player of course.

 

I'd have Sami ahead of him though personally.

 

 

[Pungkoq Hang]

Out for months with a knee ligament injury according to the Graun. Normal service resumed.

 

Fuckety fuck.

[an tha]

Matip's injuries often seem to be from what appear to be quite innocuous situations but then the result is ages out.

 

Sadly if he is indeed crocked for months that could be the last we have seen of him....a desperately sad end to his career here - a fine player who deserves better than that. Hopefully it isn't case.

[Dr Nowt]

Klopp just said it’s his ACL.

 

Season over by the looks of it.

[an tha]

1 minute ago, Dr Nowt said:

Klopp just said it’s his ACL.

 

Season over by the looks of it.

LFC career too sadly.

 

Terrible way for it to end. Feel for the lad. Deserves better.

[TD_LFC]

Wouldn't be surprised if they offered him a 1 year deal on reduced terms as a gesture of good will but would let him move on for free given an opportunity that appealed to him in the summer or January 25

[LFC 6 Times]

Absolutely horrendous news, taken the gloss off last 5 days results.

 

A stellar player for us and for me a legend.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Poor Joel. Hoping he makes as speedy a recovery as possible. 
 

Do we buy in January or put faith in Quansah to be an able back-up option? 
 

Either way, I think we’ll be looking at centre backs in the summer, if not sooner. 

[Razoray]

After Van Dijk was injured (assaulted) in 20/21, he was excellent with initially Gomez, until his injury, and then Fabinho at the back. 

After the Palace 7-0, we had 31 points from 14 games - the same as we had before tonight. Matip went off injured in the 15th game v West Brom to be replaced by Williams), we conceded a late equaliser and went on to win just 11 points in the next 13 games. 

 

Obviously we have Van Dijk, Gomez, Konate, and Quansah still available this season, but I thought of it during the week and was delighted that Sheff U didn’t equalise late on tonight and put my superstitious thoughts to bed. 

 

[Strontium]

Let's face it, he's played his last match for the club, unless he makes an amazing recovery and gets 5 minutes on the last day of the season or something.

 

Terrific player, but unfortunately made of crisps.

[Code]

The way he landed after his jump on Sunday I knew he was fucked. Will be a big miss miss, Konate really need step it up now.