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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Head of EU picks speaks utter fud once more, condemn Hamas attacks,  hardly surprising from someone like her really..

 

 

 

Same old story - on the one side you've got the lives of thousands of Palestinians in imminent danger; on the other hand, €30-something billion in trade between the EU and its special friend.

 

So-o-o-o...

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

 

I wonder what side the twats will come down on.

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2 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Same old story - on the one side you've got the lives of thousands of Palestinians in imminent danger; on the other hand, €30-something billion in trade between the EU and its special friend.

 

So-o-o-o...

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

 

I wonder what side the twats will come down on.

She would have served Europe better by saying fuck all.

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Just now, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That's pretty much the story of her time in office.  If they ever make a statue of her, that's what they should engrave on the plinth.

She is a fucking disaster. I'm not just saying it to poke a stick at the EU in general but she was apparently fucking useless when German defence minister. She's just an over promoted spoilt brat. 

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17 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Same old story - on the one side you've got the lives of thousands of Palestinians in imminent danger; on the other hand, €30-something billion in trade between the EU and its special friend.

 

So-o-o-o...

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

 

I wonder what side the twats will come down on.

I think you've hit nail on head angry. I dont think she's very fuvking politically deft. As you've said numerous times Angry one of the EU calling cards is the anti war and armaments line. Leyen has blown that out of the water and shone a spotlight on not only herself but the whole EU. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Same old story - on the one side you've got the lives of thousands of Palestinians in imminent danger; on the other hand, €30-something billion in trade between the EU and its special friend.

 

So-o-o-o...

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

Morals or money?

 

I wonder what side the twats will come down on.

Shame she didn't pay this much attention to places under her jurisdiction, places like Hartlepool perhaps..

 

https://www.972mag.com/ihra-ngo-monitor-ilf-european-union/

 

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8 minutes ago, Numero said:

Anybody attacking Jews for the actions of Israeli are racist cunts. We’ve seen a lot of that shit recently with Asians attacked in the States over some perceived responsibility for Covid, and obviously Muslims for the last 20 years. Pretty fucking stupid. 

Of course, although I'd suggest a more constructive and immediate way to ease tensions between Jewish people throughout Europe and the wider population is to publicly tell Netanyahu in no uncertain terms the EU deplores his actions and demand he backs off. 

 

A genuine question, do you think the Von Leyen tweet last night was wise?

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7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Of course, although I'd suggest a more constructive and immediate way to ease tensions between Jewish people throughout Europe and the wider population is to publicly tell Netanyahu in no uncertain terms the EU deplores his actions and demand he backs off. 

 

A genuine question, do you think the Von Leyen tweet last night was wise?

No? I wasn’t replying to any of that anyway. But no, I think it was hamfisted and ugly. 

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5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Can't we just rewind to a time we all pretended they were on the side of peace and love?

Nobody ever did that.

 

EU structures make it practically impossible for Member States to go to war against each other.  That was the founding aim and it still holds true.

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On 15/05/2021 at 13:00, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Nobody ever did that.

 

EU structures make it practically impossible for Member States to go to war against each other.  That was the founding aim and it still holds true.

Hmmm I suppose.

 

Anyway a bit of light relief,

 

 

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The below article had me humming a great old 1970 Edwin Starr record  War in which Edwin sings

 

"The EU huh good god y' all what is it good for? Absolutely nothing" 

 

In all seriousness their were a few raised eyebrows over EU expansion into countries like Hungary, Romania, ex Soviet States,,  but alas, the free enterprise juggernaut had to be fed,

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/18/eu-sidelined-and-divided-as-war-rages-again-in-middle-east

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You know "EU expansion" wasn't a  conquest, don't you? There isn't a single Member State that didn't join freely. There isn't a single Member State that isn't free to leave.

 

Seems daft to use the language of imperialism. 

 

Also, it's not clear what EU enlargement has to do with that article. 

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41 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

You know "EU expansion" wasn't a  conquest, don't you? There isn't a single Member State that didn't join freely. There isn't a single Member State that isn't free to leave.

 

Seems daft to use the language of imperialism. 

 

Also, it's not clear what EU enlargement has to do with that article. 

 

The article states surprise surprise Hungry, Romania and other crackpot countries were against criticising Israel.

 

As for EU expansion in general, I see it for what it is, a move into other regions to mop up cheap countries Labour whilst simultaneously poking a stick at Russia. Win win for the right wing free enterprise mob.

 

Angry if you really think people like Vonn der Leyen could give two fucks for working class people living in countrys like Latvia you might be interested in purchasing some of my Hungarian majic dust, works wonders for delusion.

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15 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

The article states surprise surprise Hungry, Romania and other crackpot countries were against criticising Israel.

As were the USA. As are the UK. It's not just ex-Soviet "crackpots" who support Israel. It also states that Germany is a close ally of Israel. 

 

The upshot is that the EU tries to have a unified Foreign Policy, but on some issues you can't get 27 independent sovereign states to agree. Hardly surprising, is it?

15 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

As for EU expansion in general, I see it for what it is, a move into other regions to mop up cheap countries Labour whilst simultaneously poking a stick at Russia. Win win for the right wing free enterprise mob.

You see it wrong. Every Member State joined freely and is free to leave. The Polish government decided that Poland should apply to join. The Slovakian government decided that Slovakia should apply to join. etc. Win-win for the elected governments of those countries.

 

15 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Angry if you really think people like Vonn der Leyen could give two fucks for working class people living in countrys like Latvia you might be interested in purchasing some of my Hungarian majic dust, works wonders for delusion.

*sigh*

There you go again, making shit up; pretending that I've said something and then posting some witty rejoinder to the thing you just made up. It's tiresome and it's silly. It's the reason people get pissed off and resort to insulting you.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/17/handcuffed-detained-denied-medicine-eu-citizens-uk-border-ordeals

 

Seems like some of the cruelty was intentional and not just bureaucratic incompetence. Denying people medicine and making them sleep in vans and non-segregated holding rooms is pretty shocking behaviour on the part of the UK. My son is considering some overseas study/intern work next semester and I sure as hell will be suggesting he scratch the UK off his list. 

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1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

As were the USA. As are the UK. It's not just ex-Soviet "crackpots" who support Israel. It also states that Germany is a close ally of Israel. 

 

The upshot is that the EU tries to have a unified Foreign Policy, but on some issues you can't get 27 independent sovereign states to agree. Hardly surprising, is it?

You see it wrong. Every Member State joined freely and is free to leave. The Polish government decided that Poland should apply to join. The Slovakian government decided that Slovakia should apply to join. etc. Win-win for the elected governments of those countries.

 

*sigh*

There you go again, making shit up; pretending that I've said something and then posting some witty rejoinder to the thing you just made up. It's tiresome and it's silly. It's the reason people get pissed off and resort to insulting you.

Im serious on the last point though Angry, do you think the likes of Der Leyen really give a fuck about the working class people in countrys like Latvia? And don't take the silly jokes to heart angry. 

 

My main point stands though Angry, once again, on every major issue the EU gets found wanting.

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