Ched Evans

[Denny Crane]

The problem with experts reports on alcohol consumption is they are based on formulaic principles and are not an exact science. An expert really can't tell how a level of alcohol consumption will affect one person compared to another as everyone reacts differently.

 

I agree, but from once an expert is recognised as one, they have a huge advantage that is pretty difficult to pull apart, competence aside.

[Cardie]

Yes, when they score on Soccer Saturday or something.

 

But, if it was a story about their convictions, I don't doubt they'd adopt the same approach.

 

If you don't want to be called a convicted rapist, the best idea is to lay off the ol' raping for a bit.

 

As I said, don't have an issue with them referencing the crime, it's the way they are doing it which is different to how they've treated footballers crimes in the past. All very tabloid.

[Strontium]

A handy rebuttal guide to all the rape apologism:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/ched-evans-has-served-his-time--and-other-misconceptions-about-the-convicted-rapist-footballer-9957849.html

[General Dryness]

A handy rebuttal guide to all the rape apologism:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/ched-evans-has-served-his-time--and-other-misconceptions-about-the-convicted-rapist-footballer-9957849.html

 

It all seems a bit "eye for an eye" to me.

 

With this in mind, can't we just have him bummed by Nightcat and have done with it? If he survives, that is.

[RoboRiise]

Fuck, do we have real consequences here? Scary shit, man.

 

 

The sexual tension in this thread is almost unbearable.

 

Edit:  FFS beaten to it by Fuge.

[stringvest]

Not unless he gets it overturned it isn't.

 

not 'overturned', 'spit roasted'

[RoboRiise]

I've got no intention of negging you. I don't neg people just for disagreeing with me, unlike certain other people. My problem is with cowards who hide behind what they perceive to be anonymity to hurl disgusting abuse at other people.

 

With that said, I do think you should pay closer attention to what is going on, as nothing I've written is as bad as the stuff that is hurled, unprovoked, at me (of course, I am morally entitled to retaliate to such abuse).

 

Let's be fair Stronts.  Everybody knows Adam is called Adam and those of us who've been here long enough (including you) know why he chose his current forum name.  He lives in Wrexham, as he's repeatedly said.  He's hardly anonymous; in fact it's a long time since I had to dox anybody but I'm pretty sure I could find him in five minutes if I decided to.

 

I could probably find you without too much difficulty as well Danny, but I think it's fair to say your real-life identity is somewhat more obscured.

 

Not getting into the whole bitchfight, just thought it was a point worth making.

[Paulie Dangerously]

These threads with SD vs BLANK are getting so tedious. It's up there with the height of Code and Silverlining. At least Silverlining was funny

 

Yawn.

[Bjornebye]

Well, love makes you do funny things.

 

It's the people who are defending Evans despite having no connection to him who are beyond the pale.

Oh the hypocrisy. You defend stuff daily that you have zero connection with. Mong

[Bjornebye]

No, you started it when you negged me for stating that I don't understand why anyone gives a fuck if some unrepentant rapist has his career ruined.

 

Obviously, since you negged me for criticising a rapist, it's completely accurate to call you a defender of a rapist.

 

This prompted the usual anonymous shithousery about fucking dogs and supporting genocide, or whatever cretinous criminal filth passes for commentary from you.

 

You are a disgraceful excuse for a human being. So rare to encounter a person with no redeeming features whatsoever.

You are a fucking disgrace and a massive two faced hypocritical shithouse.

 

And a bit thick.

[Bjornebye]

These threads with SD vs BLANK are getting so tedious. It's up there with the height of Code and Silverlining. At least Silverlining was funny

 

Yawn.

He never starts it though....

[Section_31]

Silverlining was about as funny as Mark Fowler falling asleep on your shoulder on the train while having a serious nose bleed.

[Spy Bee]

So are you going to answer the question SD, or are you going to continue to be a devious, slippery, horrible bastard?

[Bjornebye]

So are you going to answer the question SD, or are you going to continue to be a devious, slippery, horrible bastard?

Easiest question ever

[General Dryness]

Y'all are gonna face the consequences.

[FanchesterCity]

This is what happens when a few people meet up in a room late at night and people start misinterpreting things.

 

Come the morning, there's a hell of a mess, nobody really remembers who made the first move, and at least two people are left accusing each other of some terrible acts.

 

One will end up going into hiding, and the other will struggle to find a forum that'll take him.

 

It's becoming like 'The Premier Inn Way'.

[redheart]

Sorry but I think that he should be allowed to play again.

 

Regardless of guilt or innocence and I cannot be bothered to look at the facts of the case to see if this conviction is sound or not. I am just assuming that it is.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/ched-evans-has-served-his-time--and-other-misconceptions-about-the-convicted-rapist-footballer-9957849.html

 

Has  a number of very dubious points including the one below. It lists doctor, teacher and policeman as the type of jobs from which you are excluded if convicted of rape. Sorry but that is nonsense. The restriction is clearly job specific. Nobody would suggest that a convicted rapist should be allowed to be a doctor and hence examine patients. Or  teacher with access to 15 year old girls. Or a policeman. They are jobs with high levels of trust.

 

This surely does not apply to a footballer.

And  please do not spout the role model nonsense. If as a parent tour childs influences are footballers then you have failed as a parent

 

 

 

Is he never allowed to work again?

Of course he is! But a rape conviction automatically excludes you from a vast number of professions. A convicted rapist couldn’t be a teacher, doctor or police officer, for example. In fact, there can be few companies that would allow you to walk straight back into your job after leaving jail. Should football be so different?

[Spy Bee]

Exactly, this is summed up in the comment below

 

 

Web Applications UK said it will continue to sponsor Oldham irrespective of their decision over Evans.

 

The company’s chief executive, Craig Dean, said: “To deprive a human being of the right to work in their chosen profession should be a decision taken by a judicial system that dispassionately balances the rights of the individual against that of the society as a whole.

 

“Whether Oldham Athletic choose to employ Ched Evans is a decision for the manager and board of directors of the club; we will not interfere with that decision.”

[Spy Bee]

So somebody posted on my works Twitter account "My name of My Company wants people's mothers to get raped!"

 

I would suggest this is some seriously shithouse behaviour. Have you got any comment to make SD?

[Bjornebye]

Is that true Spybee?

 

If so then seriously he needs fucking banning

[Spy Bee]

Is that true Spybee?

 

If so then seriously he needs fucking banning

I can't prove it was him, but it was done.

[Anubis]

I can't prove it was him, but it was done.

 

Report it to the police and they can investigate the IP address. Better to do that and find the culprit rather than speculate.

[Spy Bee]

Now the same account is posting links to images of "GF bevahiour" (sick and disgusting jokes) on my works account. SD can you please deny this is you?

[Ginny]

Now the same account is posting links to images of "GF bevahiour" (sick and disgusting jokes) on my works account. SD can you please deny this is you?

Seriously wtf!?

[Bjornebye]

Beyond acceptable. Report it to Dave and see if you can get an IP Address mate.