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The problem for us in the first half was that we were outnumbered in midfield. Both BGJ and Robbo were playing as orthodox full backs, and this was why City were able to close our midfielders down quickly and cut off any passing angles, especially going forward. It was an effective tactical play because it rendered our midfield ineffective, our attack impotent and freed them to get runners on us. They were targetting Milner and got a lot of joy. It looked as though Klopp spotted the problem and, rather than change personnel, he re-jigged the set-up by pushing Milner and Robbo slightly higher. We weren't looking so outnumbered and suddenly Sadio and especially Mo were finding space. Stunning goal from Mo. Shades of Spurs in 2017/18, and like that one, we didn't see out the win. Fab could have done it but City tend to pull out a last ditch block every time they play us, so it wasn't especially unusual. Some of the bleating on these match threads is shameful. All some people want to do is throw blame around every time something goes against us in a match. If a pass doesn't land? Shite. If an opponent has a yard of space and does something productive, our player should have been touch-tight. If our player is tougch-tight and still gets turned, he's a soft cunt who wants bombing out of the club. If a player shoots and doesn't score, he's shite. If he shoots instead of passing, he's a greedy cunt. And that's before you get to those who do the equivalent of the Mancs' green and gold if we fail to win a match.

Feel for you having to make that decision, but I agree with most that you have to. I’ll almost certainly never share the full details in here, but I’ve seen in the last year with my ex mother in law just how fucking awful a family can be, and so we’ve reached the point where we’re probably going to be sending a solicitors letter for confirm she can’t attempt to contact my daughter unless it’s through formal channels, and won’t get to see her unless she first pays for a mediated meeting with me, and even then not without supervision. I was astounded at how she was behaving and couldn’t believe a person could be the cunt that she has been, but my missus - how knows of her actions but has never met her - seemingly knows her to a tee and has met her hundreds of times before through being in the police. her shithouse games and tactics were unbelievable to me, and yet to her we’re just run of the mill, by the book behaviours. breaks my heart that I had to take my girl out for a walk and a talk the day after her birthday to explain what something written im her birthday card meant, and that her grandma isn’t being very nice (euphemism) to her (dying) mum and that if she can’t be a good mum, then she can’t be a good grandma because being nice to your mum is the most important thing. cunt. sorry to hijack. Sort of spilled out.

Thanks for sharing your opinion with the group. You and Beefy both. Meanwhile ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT (i.e. epidemiologists, doctors, and the like) strongly disagree with you and have concluded that the vaccine is massively reducing the number of infections, hospitalisations, and deaths, and the best thing we can all do to halt the pandemic is to get jabbed. Excuse me if I listen to them more than a pair of randos on the internet.

I got my test results back this week (required because I need a referral to a Long Covid clinic) and they proved of interest. The ECG was absolutely fine, as expected. The latest chest x-ray showed that my lungs have both healed. This is surprising because I still can't take a full breath without feeling pain in my left lung. The blood tests showed up some anomalies however. Firstly, a severe deficiency in B12. They tested for pernicious anemia and that was negative, so no need for B12 injections, but I'll be on another 3 tablets per day for the next 6 months at least. The blood tests also flagged up a deficiency in iron, so that's another 3 tablets each day for the next 6 months, possibly longer. These recent developments though, I view them as a positive. Since I've been out of hospital I've experienced spells of immediate crushing exhaustion and fatigue, hits me like a ton of bricks and just comes from nowhere. I've also suffered from breathlessness and the inability to take a full breath. Apparently this could be down to the iron deficiency, not converting my haemoglobin into oxygen efficiently. Apparently Guinness is a great source of B12 too so I'm ordering a load of West Indian Guinness on today's Asda shopping list, although I doubt it'll come free with my NHS medical exemption card. Onwards and upwards, these latest developments give me some optimism that I can get back some of that spring in my step and start living again.

Not as frustrating as the other two draws to be honest. Turned the game around at half time, equaliser was a little fortunate with the deflection, but a fair result really. Some poor performances, some terrible takes in here as well.

Watching MOTD and he’s asked how the yernited fans would like to see Ronaldo start every game. He replies with “I think Cristiano and myself understand more than you, the experts and journalists.” Honestly it shouldn’t bother me as much as it does, but I really fucking hate his smug little grate. He’s won the square root of fuck all, just presided over a draw they could easily have lost but for Tom Davies’ lack of a set, coming off the back of three defeats in five or whatever, and he’s crowing about rotation. I’ll say it again, never has such mediocrity been so pleased with itself.

Yesterday morning I gave the Cypriot government a final note stating that unless I heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared to remove the title ‘Full English’ from that breakfast atrocity, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently I am now at war with Cyprus.

I admit I'm not intricately acquainted with the incredibly, complex statistical analysis that goes into the Liverpool transfer matrix, but I don't think this midfield has looked as silly as they have against Chelsea and today in about 5 years. As a corollary to that, I would offer it was maybe a mistake to let him leave and not replace him.

Hope this puts to bed that bobby should play instead of Jota

Been going to an ace swimming pool about 45 mins drive away every other Sunday with Turdsette plus my mate and his little lad. Last time we went a fortnight ago he forgot to bring his lad’s armbands and said he couldn’t find them, so we were limited on what we could do there. This week I’ve been on him every day. “Don’t forget the fucking armbands.” He came round to ours for a piss up on Friday night. I mentioned the armbands about five times, then sent him another text yesterday afternoon. Anyway, I picked them up this morning and halfway there he tells me that he sourced some armbands off Facebook and then it dawned on me that in the rush to go this morning I hadn’t packed any armbands for Turdsette. I was absolutely fuming with myself for being such a dick. Fucking idiot. Fast forward half an hour and Turdsette is bombing into the deep end after I’d taught her to doggy paddle with confidence. She was doing 10 metres easily. I can’t express on here just how happy she is. Absolutely beaming. Armbands are going in the bin. Counting down the days until we go back in a fortnight.

Anything that starts "Hello,Philip schofield here"

Knocking one out is a wank

Anyone who crosses the floor should face a by election. No ifs or buts, go back to your electorate and ask the question. A lot of MPs wrongly think their constituents are voting for them not the party.

Best player in the world for me right now.

FSG have killed us. There's only so much a world-class manager can do if you're signing one first-team player every couple of seasons.

It was outside the box.

Sipping a guinness with rumours on the record player and listening to the rain outside. The eldest scored a corker to win his game 6-5 earlier. Normally hate Sundays but I'm having this one.

To get us in the mood....

Fuck knows what this place will be like when we actually lose. We weren't great, City are a good team (they'd only conceded one before today), but we still should have won had it not been for a brilliant clearance. Enjoy Salah's goal as the thing of beauty it was.

And people praise players if they are doing well. "That was good from Robbo" ect. Its how football forums work. Its good to see that you have transcended the system though and can look down on everybody. Mostly, I think, by not posting much during the match. If you were posting during the second half of the first half, for example, what exactly would you be posting?

Wijnaldum was the legs in midfield, we're really missing him.

Lost 1 of his last 50 starts. Not sure it's a coincidence.

Again, mainly down to having a wafer thin squad which we haven't added to. Imagine a side which won a CL, league and world club championship only a couple of years later having Milner as their only RB cover? He's slower than Windows 98, Jones isn't ready at this level either, not out of his depth by any means, but only a placeholder at best, it's not enough.

There's a good chance half my street heard me shout "Fuck off you manc cunts!" When that went in.

Matip has been by far our best performer.

£5.95. Just fuck off, the lot of you.

Getthefuckouttahere. Extra large mixto kebap with chilli and salad. Drooling here.

Alice Levine on Sunday Brunch right now.

Yeah it's mad now, very continental, they drink in the house and often don't go out until midnight. Back in the day if I wasn't in the pub by 8pm I'd have a panic attack. You only had a few hours a week to get tanked and it required military precision. Few hours in the pub, insist you're not going the club, go the club at midnight, in there til 2am, kebap and bed.

I've just had the booster but my Grandson (9) has tested positive for his 2nd bout. Headaches and temperature so far, but he's alright in himself. It started on Thursday when Mrs HL picked him up from school and took him home along with 2 of the other Grandkids, which is unfortunate, so fingers crossed for all of them.

3 women a week commit suicide as a direct result of DV. Thats not the women that are killed, thats those that end the suffering themselves. There are the women killed on top of that figure. The thing is, we're talking about the far end of the spectrum here, we're talking about rape and murder. We're not talking about being felt up, we're not talking about comments made about our appearance, we're not talking about the glass ceiling. This is the far end of the spectrum, it's all the stuff before that that are warning signs. It's one thing to have a bit of banter. Mr Melons regularly piss takes my driving skills and the damage it does to the cars, the return fuck you or i'll make sure i'll do proper damage next time usually suffices. Could my sister say that to her husband without getting a kicking, no she couldn't. I'd have no issue with it, he's going to be in a padded isolation cell anyway. He won't be allowed to integrate with other inmates. It doesn't matter where he goes so long as he can't hurt anyone ever again. You mentioned the other 75% as though no-one was speaking out for them. It also insinuates that there isn't a massive issue. The issue is huge, like a massive beacon going off all around forever, it's just ignored. No-one for one second thinks it's all men. It is more than a single man though, it's more than a handful of men. I don't know the actual stats, but i'd go as far to say it's common practice in many men to see women as the inferior. you brought up Salman Abedi, we can go down the route of religious practices that place women on the open field for abuse practices from other cultures.... Someone earlier up mentioned the objectifying of women in porn, again you've got to look at the context - does that mean you look at women in porn and think they're only there for your gratification, that they don't exist for anything else or any other purpose? No, because you're not that dense. You know they've totally got a life outside of your 7 minute clip. To which you've obviously finished off twice. No-one is saying its all men, we know its not. That doesn't stop the issues though, it doesn't stop us being told to not run with our earphones it (how many men are told this), it doesn't stop us being weary of getting in taxis alone (do men get that fear), it doesn't stop us carrying our car keys a certain way in certain areas (were men told to do that?), it doesn't stop us making sure we park in well lit areas or even looking for areas with that CCTV (other than for reasons of your car being damaged does that cross your mind). That heightened state of fear is not media brought out, it's experience for more women than it isn't. As i mentioned above this is the extreme end, society needs to start addressing it early doors. Don't be the arse in front of our sons, raise our daughters with the strength they need to be able to challenge or walk away, when work mates think certain things are funny and it's not, call them out on it. In the early days physically meeting many of you lot actually restored much of my faith in men. Think about it, my knowledge of men up to the age of 30, not younger, but 30. Uncles abusing their sisters and nieces, physically and sexually. Personally being held up by the neck and thrown across a room because i dared to change my surname to my stepdads. Being made to go out and do manual work for staying out past whatever time i was expected to be in - not massively I'm talking like 30 minutes. That wasn't just gardening/chopping wood etc, that was going out on a boat puling up lobster pots between vomiting over the other side of the deck. Being called a cunt for not taking a cheating husband back after he'd cheated on more than one occasion, telling me i'm damaging my kids for it, moreover them all supporting him and actually telling him how to maliciously get back at me. Being spat on and scream. This was my normal. It's never going to be my childrens normal. It shouldn't be anyones normal. I shrug all this off that my family are just nuts. It's not just males in my so called family though. If you sit a group of women down they can list reams of abuse from men. And please, please don't think I'm not acknowledging female on male domestic violence. That totally happens, that is also to be condemned.

Wham Spaceballs, me and my lad shared a bag last week. All the vitamins a growing lad needs

David Moyes after being knocked out of the fa Cup on penalties to Swansea " Well that proves what a lottery penalties are, I actually thought we took most of our penalties well, shame a few more weren't on target " On losing 1-0 at home to bottom club Fulham, "that's what United are are all about, what the fans want to see, we broke the record for getting crosses into the box" I still miss Davey, but Ole's starting to fill the void.

The bread's made out of despair, regret and the terror of the lost. That's why it's so crunchy and fits in so well with the rest of that plate.

Why is your, erm, bacon fucking rectangular?

My mother and sister had a codependent relationship when it came to this kind of thing, forever taking from Peter to pay PauL, constantly on the scrounge, always skint and always looking for a favour. Thankfully they had a huge fall out and don't speak so my mum is kinda stable now, not without me having to help out quite a bit. I tried to help out lending money, but it just became a cycle and increased every time as they needed more than before. I blame all the short term loans or cash converter interest that keeps them in the cycle of debt as it is/was so easy to come by. I set up all the utilities as they were blacklisted and got the the internet and phone lines etc on the proviso they paid it o time etc. Some were out of my bank others from theirs, you can guess the rest. I got a court debt collection letter about a year back for a bill they didn't pay seven years ago! I think I've written in here before that my mum borrowed my first paper round money and never paid me back. In the end I just stopped, but then they'd just go elsewhere and the cycle continues. The final straw was when my mum needed galsses as her eyesight was going so I gave her the money to buy some proper glasses, a couple of hundered quid. Her and my sister went to fucking Blackpool with it, she still doesn't have glasses now years later. Sister was constantly putting the kids toys in to pawn, borrowing against benifits coming in all of it a fucking disaster, the amount of stress and anxiety it creates musst be off the scale for them as they're always ducking and diving. The total debt they were carrying was probably no more than one/two grand in total, but it was owed all over the place in small amounts and created it's own cycle. I have no advice as everything I tried failed and my sister if anything is worse now, four kids she can't afford, dead leg boyfriend, no job, no ambition and still on the scrounge and blaming the world and everyone but herself for it. My mums better, but still in cycles of boom and bust where i need to bail her out, the big one will come in a few years when she retires as she lives in insecure housing and obviously has no savings, she's fucked and I'm going to have to fix it as she's useless at getting anything practical done and has no bargaining chips. I ain't got much to offer, but if you want to bounce some ideas around let me know I'll happily be a sounding board.

More than fair. I'd say you're skint and this has battered your finances over the last month and it can't keep on, its obvious things are hard now, and given the way the cuts are going, lecky going up etc, the winter is going to be really hard - maybe we should sit down so we can work out how you're going to manage the winter - you help them look at changing suppliers etc... It's all bull shit, but it makes you look lesser of the cunt, which no doubt they'll call you as thats what mine all call me when the money tap has to be turned off.

Great, trademark direct pass to set up Jota for a shot on goal today. Tremendous footballer. I genuinely couldn’t even say if he’s fast or not because his positioning is so good he doesn’t ever have to sprint.

Unless Wayne Couzens started out on his descent to murder by looking at the Kylie thread some people need to stop and take some time out. Trivialising it to "oh we shouldn't look at pictures of Kylie" is a bit of a piss take of the situation.

If the commentary could put their dicks away that would be great.

I think once people go through the door of borrowing off family rather than working they never come back. My ex refused to get a job for 10 years and took £0000s in maintenance. Used to send the girls on access weekends with shopping lists of items I had to buy even though I was paying her rent plus maintenance. At one point both her and her partner were both unemployed by choice saying they were “too tired to work” and I was funding 2 households.

Jurgen Klopp has compared the Covid anti-vaccination lobby to drunk drivers – whose choices endanger the lives of others. The Liverpool manager says his squad are 99 per cent double-vaccinated, including himself and his staff, and that he did not have to persuade his players who made “a natural decision” to get the two doses of the vaccine. Klopp has been clear about the importance of taking medical advice when it comes to Covid and listening to the views of specialists in the field. “Where did I get the knowledge that I think it makes sense to get the vaccine? I called doctors that I’ve known for years and I asked them, ‘What should I do?’” said Klopp, whose side face Manchester City at Anfield on Sunday. “That’s how I usually work. “When you don’t know about something, you call a specialist and the specialist tells you, ‘From my point of view, I would tell you this or that’. “That’s why I took the vaccination. I am in an age group where … the virus could be tricky, and I was really happy when I could get it [the vaccine]. “Maybe I’m a bit naive, but I don’t understand 100 per cent why we [managers] are not allowed to give advice [on the vaccine]. If I say I am vaccinated, other people say, ‘How can you tell me you are vaccinated? How can you tell me I should be vaccinated?’ I explained it myself a bit like drink driving. We all probably were in a situation where we had a beer or two and thought we still could drive but, [because of] the law, we are not allowed, so we don’t drive. This law is not there to protect me when I drink two beers and want to drive. It’s for protecting all the other people because I’m drunk, and we accept that as a law. “We all know that alcohol is bad for our body, but we still drink it. With the vaccination, [some] assume it’s not good for our body, even though all the specialists out there say … the vaccination is the solution for the situation in that moment. “For me, it is exactly the same. I don’t take the vaccination only to protect me, I take the vaccination to protect all the people around me. “I don’t understand why that is a limitation of freedom because, if it is, then not being allowed to drink and drive is a limitation of freedom as well. But we accept that.” He added: “If I show up in the office drunk, they can send me home or even sack me, but we are not allowed to ask people [if they are vaccinated]. I might be really naive, but I don’t understand it. I got the vaccination because I was concerned about myself, but even more so about everybody around me. If I get [Covid] and I suffer from it: my fault. If I get it and spread it to someone else: my fault and not their fault.” Gareth Southgate says that he does not know which of his England players are double-vaccinated following concerns that significant numbers of England players are refusing to get the Covid vaccine. Southgate said he was prevented from knowing because of medical confidentiality rules but that it is likely to become clear over the next few months leading up to the 2022 World Cup finals. The England manager, who announced his squad on Thursday for the next two qualifiers against Andorra and Hungary, said that it would become obvious “where one group [of players] is going to go through one door and another will go through the other”. He said he supported the efforts to get vaccination levels up. “I don’t see another way other than a huge vaccination programme, frankly,” he said. “I am yet to be advised by those who don’t see it that way what the alternatives are.” On Saturday, Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, took a stronger stance on those opting against vaccination, saying players were “role models” who should be encouraging others to get jabbed. “I would just appeal to these people, whether they are footballers, whoever it is... that the vaccines are working,” he told Times Radio. “They’ve made a conscious choice. It is disappointing, of course it is. They are role models in society. People, especially young people, will look up to them and they should recognise that and the difference that can make in terms of encouraging others.” The Qatar organisers of the World Cup next year are yet to decide whether non-vaccinated players will be allowed to play in the tournament. Regulations in Qatar are strict for citizens and tourists, requiring proof of a double vaccination against Covid for admittance to most public areas. The ultimate decision will be made by the Qatari health authorities in conjunction with Fifa and discussions between the two continue. It is possible that quarantining and consistent negative Covid tests will be enough for players and fans to be admitted to the country without a double vaccination at the Fifa Arab Cup in the Gulf state. The tournament between 16 teams starts on Nov 30. The Qatar organising committee is using the event as a warm-up for the World Cup next year. It is not an official Fifa event and there is no mandatory player release for clubs. There has been no decision taken yet on what requirements will be in place for next year. The ultimate decision will be made by the Qatari health authorities in conjunction with Fifa and discussions between the two continue. It is possible that quarantining and consistent negative Covid tests will be enough for players and fans to be admitted to the country without a double vaccination. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/10/02/anti-vaccine-england-footballers-qatar-world-cup-participation/

In most cases, I think they’re seeing/hearing the same things. They just don’t care about the negative aspects of his personality, some of which seem to be actively celebrated. In terms of some of the damaging policies he presides over, the ‘I’m alright Jack’ approach takes care of those for many of his disciples.

I'm just struggling to fathom how all these full English's cost the best part of a tenner yet consist mostly of half a tin of beans. Then I remember the voting habits of the majority of this country and it all makes sense.

One for the instant cunt identifiers, that, "one of the lads".

The thing that is properly flying under the radar at the moment are the games in January that have been slipped in, to which there is no international window to play them. There are peer reviewed studies that say transmission is reduced by around 50% in the fully vaccinated due to the reduced viral load.

It is of course an opinion but one i happily stand by - as i say he is not a baby any more. I appreciate all players develop physically and indeed mentally to the demands of playing first team/top level football, but if this lad is going to be what we all hope he might be it is my view that he should be coping with 4/5 starts on the bounce easily enough now. He should also be buzzing and full of confidence after the week he has had and that can of course be a massive help to a player and those around him....dropping him for a returning from yet another injury and abject performance Keita would be the wrong call for my money.