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Christ, Labour and Corbyn getting any shit whatsoever about this really boils my piss. Brexit is 100% square at the door of the Tories: It's their common-room debate that's wrangled on since the 70s It's the issue that's divided their party since the days of Thatcher It's their fucking MP's who've written editorials in the Spectator and so on making up myths about the EuroBogeyman It's their party that decided to call a referendum to settle this bullshit It's their party that insisted that an advisory referendum had to become a national mission statement It's their party that has lost MP's to fucking UKIP because Euro-skeptcism is so openly rife throughout their ranks It's their party that gave the leave campaign all it's big-hitting fronters It's their party whose membership voted to leave in much bigger proportions It's their party that has been in charge of the post-referendum government since day 1 It's their party that has been in charge of all of the negotiations, all of the appointments to DExEU and the Foreign Office, all of the whole fucking process It's their party that triggered A50 before they even came up with a strategy, and then triggered a general election during the negotiations to try and capitalise It's their party that have pulled all sorts of shenanigans in Parliament to block, obfuscate and delay any kind of unity solution and try and keep the whole process in-(messy)house In the face of all of that, what is there? Corbyn was "7/10" on the EU? It's total bullshit whatever else you think about him or his party - this entire fucking shambles was and is a Tory construct, it's their fucking bullshit that's come out of the rotary clubs and into the public mainstream. They're an absolute cancer on this country, the damage they've done in the last 8 years is absolutely catastrophic and running away from their reckoning is the rectal cherry on the fucking shit cake.

Never realised Adam Lallana posted on here.

It's funny that Corbyn often takes shit for not being politically minded, yet by remaining non-committal he's played a blinder. What is it that May wants more than anything at this point in time? To unite her party. what's the best way of doing that? A common enemy. The minute Corbyn comes out for a people's vote or whatever the fuck, Labour loses a swathe of working class voters that gravitated back to them from UKIP, and also gives May a crusade and a clear selling point for her plan 'It's my Brexit or no Brexit' 'If you want to keep free movement and Romnaians with their Roma-hating and wandering sex hands, vote Corbyn!' Besides which, if being pro EU is such a vote winner, how come the Rotary club of Little Hulton currently has more members than the Lib Dems? When your enemy is making a mistake, never interrupt them. Also, Soubry can fuck off, the grotesque spineless cunt.

Really looking forward to it this year. First proper Christmas with my girlfriend, me and the kids are buying all our sweets and chocolates this Saturday and I get two whole weeks off work. Oh, and my daughter (with a big smile on her face) has just told me that my ex-wife has split up with her child of a boyfriend. For shame.

Challenge accepted.

Well this has aged well.

My first instinct is ‘I hate Christmas’ I don’t though, it’s all the over hyped commercialism I hate. All the pressure on people to have that perfect Christmas. I hate the shops being too busy and the thought of how much the stamps will cost to post all the cards! Actual Christmas Day I enjoy and I often enjoy Boxing Day more as it’s less stressful. I work in an office where I only have the two days off though and my husband and son work in retail so time off work is not something we get much of. Really pissed off I’ve got to work Christmas Eve but they only let a couple have the day off and I didn’t get ‘pulled out the hat’. That being said we are going to my son and gfs flat for Christmas Day and our first grandchild so that will be lovely (although he’ll only be 8 weeks old) Then Boxing Day I’m going to my sister’s with my parents. My son has to work Boxing day which I’m sad about for him. So I shall enjoy the two days but Christmas jumpers and elf on the shelf etc can sod off!!

Someone made a comment the other day that they'd forgotten Matip was playing - and that was a compliment, because it meant that he just got on with his job and didn't cause any panic. Same again tonight. He even strode forward, once or twice, which is a trait I could grow to love, now he has a superb centre-back and goalkeeper behind him. And this is our fourth choice centre back. I love Jurgen Klopp.

I think he's the best I've ever seen. Seriously.

Top of the league and through in the champions league, bow to jurgen or be wrong The man that has made us great again, jurgen kolopp.

Wouldn't swap VVD or Alisson for anyone in the world in their respective positions. Absolutely immense.

If Anybody ever doubt your value to your side, son... What. A. Player.

Never really recaptured the form of his first album for me.

Evertonians when they finally realise there's no fucking stadium and Denise, Dan Meis, Bill and Moshiri have been having them on the whole time.

It may also be an appropriate time to point out a It is us b In Europe

Thank you, it really is special

It's definite proof that he offers 'something' going forward. He has better or comparable key pass stats to those players, he created the second most amount of big chances in the league for a defender. The idea that he offers nothing going forward is retarded. But whatever, almost everybody thinks he is quality in all regards, including opposition fans.

I think the more valid comparison is Liverpool in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

Bit odd that your ma is called Tony as well.

Nah, he was just storing them. He's a small arms keeper.

Also, at least 3 goals in recent weeks have been set up by his quick thinking. He is the anti-Mignolet.

Most of my far-flung family get together at Christmas, and since we all get along, it's always a great time. It was my father's favourite holiday, and when he passed away we distributed all his various tasks amongst ourselves. So old traditions are new traditions, and the holiday is even more important than it was before.

Brillaint stuff I know it's a cliche but there is no way we could have gone one up in a game of such magnitude in the first half and finished up with that score since the days of Rafa . We've sneaked through to be fair in the fact we've lost three game but fuck to we are through and one thing I know no team will want the fucking mighty reds in the next round

It was the group of death. And we lived.

What a game, what an atmosphere, what a performance. They were all excellent again, Matip twice in a row looked v good. Henderson had his best game for ages. Robertson was immense, Milner was as steady as ever and Mo puts the ball in the net. Fucking great night again.

My mum wants to adopt James Milner “if he’s got no one.”

Masterchef has been great this year to be fair.

Yeah, but apart from assists and being good defensively what has Robertson ever done for us?

Why has he got to say nice things about the EU? Also, why do you raise Corbyn 'sharing a stage with Sinn Fein' as though that's got anything to do with anything? He also got arrested for protesting apartheid did he not? Nick Clegg works for Facebook, an organisation that arguably helped contribute to not only the election of Donald Trump but ironically, quite possibly Brexit too. Where do you stand on him? The EU IS shite. I voted remain due to the devil you know, but it's shite. It works well as a trading block but has wrought economic and social ballyhoo on member nations which themselves have spawned populist and right wing leaders as a result. It's also got zero balls when it comes to facing down belligerent activities. Why should I, or Corbyn, or anyone else be expected to paint a rose tinted picture in order to sell it to people who happen to disagree with you? Seriously, hearing Tory and lib dem backers, vehement anti Corbyn and anti Labour voices bemoaning the fact he hasn't ridden to their rescue (even though he's got ZERO power to stop it is political and moral cowardice on an unprecedented scale. It's the equivalent of when a kid gets the shit kicked out of it by its dad and the mum blames the kid for making too much noisee. Your party's austerity enablement helped bring Brexit about, Rico's party LITERALLY brought it about and fucked it up. You should both own that shit.

Full time 5-0. Even allowing for the lack of effort from the opposition (shots on target : 0; corners: 0), that was about the right result. As group winners, we will get a home tie in the last 16 against a team coming from the playoffs between the group runners-up and the national champions. Hopefully it won’t be Chelsea.

For me it’s Robbo, Van Dijk and Bobby. Robbo epitomises everything I want in a Liverpool full back. He’s got a tonne of energy, and is willing to use all of it, every game. He’s a class above what we’ve had at the position in the time I’ve been going to the match regularly, and you can see how much playing for us means to him, which we all want to see. van Dijk is just sublime. He’s made us so much better for being here and his coolness and calmness is infectious. Not just to his teammates but to the whole club - fans included. i don’t think there’s anything he’s not at least very good at, and it’s a pleasure to have him. and Bobby is just ace, isn’t he. I love his selflessness, his work ethic and his ever smiling persona. He’s great fun to watch, and isn’t that what we watch for? For fun?

I think it’s ridiculous that the sales start on Boxing Day. Ought to be the 1st of January, like it was years ago.

Solid and dependable are two of the greatest assets for any defender in the world. Scoring and/or assists are the icing on the cake.

We are no different as a fan base, people were calling Klopp out after losing both the Carling and UEFA cups, we base out own inadequacies on how the Mancs did during the Nineties and the noughties.

Years of playing Championship Manager and Football Manager tell me that Jose is bang on here. Ardja. Stop being wrong all the time.

Anarchic spelling. Some good can come from desperate acts like riots - but only when they are desperate acts. (For example, I would not be the slightest bit surprised to see riots against your racist mates in Italy at some stage.) In a properly-functioning democracy, people's concerns can be addressed long before they become desperate. Unfortunately, the UK is not a fully-functioning democracy - and the Referendum has made it much worse. No good at all can come from Brexit. The supposed benefits are things that the UK could still achieve within the EU. Handing untrammelled power to the right-wing of the Tory Party (and their tax-dodging hedge-fund chums) is not an effective way to fight the powers that be.

Review : Let's Eat Grandma - I, Gemini So once again, another band whom I've never even heard of. [presses play] Reverbed out drums and bone dry hand claps usher in Deep Six Textbook. "Let's eat grandma, in full colour...", pronounce the child like vocals. "I feel like standing on the desk, screaming 'I don't care'" Slow, slow, deep bass dives, swimmy and utterly chilled, most definitely not Blackberry Smoke. Lowfi bell chimes solo ? Both child like and charming. I like. Eat Shiitake Mushrooms - xylophone and organ, again eclectic and charming, form a riff of sorts. This is certainly very different, it does reind me of The Do. Gives way to a synthy poppy fairground disco beat, 2 minutes in and I'm digging this. "He was never invincible, he was never predictable, shiitake mushrooms how do you grow ?". I like the Neneh Cherry in nappies rap, at thimes they sound like they're from Tokyo, at time London. Another thumbs up, best song yet. And now we have an electric synthy accordion warbling, Sax In The City. More twee deconstructed synth pop with a big catchy riff and vocal. Genuinely sound around 14 or 15 these girls. I like that there's a big catchy hook to grab a hold of, and a catchy vocal melody. Reminds me a bit of Ian Brown's Unfinished Monkey Bussiness, quite rough and under produced. 3/3 so far. Chocolate Sludge Cake sneaks in a bit like U2 / Passengers' Slug before woody recorders tease us with Jerusalem. Totally our of my comfort zone here, bewildered but enjoying the ride, probably like the band themselves. "I'm gonna make a carrot cake, no I'm gonna make a chocolate cake..." Okay, you like cake, I'm with you. Is that a yute ? Transported to The Water Margin by the opening bars of Chimpanzees In Canopies (Monkey Business again ?), "Does it echo underwater ?" asks an affected, purposely geographically ambiguous voice. Lime green swings and cherry trees ? This has me baffled, but I'm still very much invested, very different. I like, I think. I love the reverbed out piano intro to Rapunzel, which again gives way to another distinctly Japanese flavoured lick. "My cat is dead, my father hit me, I ran away...". Again, a cockney twang, " Rapunzel, Rapunzel let down your hair..." Goosebumps now, lovely this one. Best song yet and added to my playlist. Sleep Song stutters along and tumbles in like a sozzled sea shanty. Trying to catch a riff or a hook, more distant percussion and dischordance. Struggling with this one, still nothing to grab hold of and drag me along, it's like treading water in a sensory deprivation tank. I'm glad that Google understands. Welcome To The Treehouse pt 1 - are we in an enchanted forest or being stalked by a predator ? "See me down into the maze, see me, the evil where we lay ?". A haunting hook, "I keep thinking about death" ? Both enchanting and not a little disturbing. Welcome To The Treehouse pt 2 - picks up the pace with some lovely drums and chimes. "And I keep thinking 'bout it / see me down into the breaths", beautiful haunting twin vocals, more goosebumps, another beauty. Uke 6 Textbook is another delightful little jam, with xylophone and ukelele. "Why, why, why ?", is the ambiguity which finishes this very ambiguous little record. Must say that BBN has played a blinder here, uplifting happy vibes, innocent, fresh and very very different. So where are these girls from and how on earth did they come up with this ? Maybe I'd rather not know. Really enjoyed this record. 8/10

Don't know where else to put these. Decided to pva a load of posters in the gents in the bar. Pinched a couple from here. Even used Philly's drawing of The Rock and another of a former member's arse.

And it's not even a question. He's the best defender in the world. His positioning, his passing, his speed, strength, in the air, on the floor. He's the perfect defender. Truly world class.

What about the shirt with white collar and cuffs?

It's faster than most slow days.

I'm mostly pro-Christmas but a couple things do fuck me off. Some Facebook thundercunts seem to use loving Christmas as if it was some wacky personality trait that makes them quirky and cute. The other one is going on about Christmas adverts like good little corporate monkeys, buying all the schmaltz and faux kindness, even to the point of looking forward to the adverts coming out. But then I saw this video and it turns out I'm a massive hypocrite, as its lovely: