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[Guest Dog Chaser]

Darby was well out of his depth, lacks the physical stature to play at this level not to mention a lack of football ability.

[Paul]

I agree with those who say that Dirk is awful right now (as opposed to adequate at his best), but the lack of options for our left wing and right back positions means I'd play him anyway. At least with more quality around him his deficiencies are less glaring and there are other players who can compensate for his shite touch, pace and passing.

[George Costanza]

Agree with most of this, but their squad is a lot better than ours overall.

 

It really isn't. My cousin (mother's side) is a Manc ST holder. He thinks its the worst squad they've had in ages. They are massively reliant on Rooney and fucking Fletcher - a player who most scum fans wanted to sell to Everton 3 years ago. Rio is a crock, they don't have a right back, outwide they lack a threat they are accustomed to having and they still don't have a decent partner for Rooney. They just have a manager who can gel players together and get more out of them for what you would expect. It was said on another thread but its amazing what a positive mindset can overcome

[Antynwa]

Dirk Kuyt wasn't awful

 

WE JUST CAN'T PLAY 1 UPFRONT ON THEIR OWN

[Chinandeler Bong]

We dont fuckin move the ball quick enough for me , its so laboured at times , no pace in the passing and no movement , that needs to be addressed.

[P.S.D]

Benitez is to blame, no one else, he has replaced decent players with shite, as well as being stubborn when things hav'nt gone well

[Tyler Durden]

Finishing the game with 3 leftbacks on the pitch was great aswell

[meijer 09]

Dirk kuyt must be dropped he was absolutely abysmal tonight, im shocked at how bad he's become. Also insua doesn't seem to know where he is on the pitch or when someone is behind him sneaking round the back. I know this was a nothing game but by the end i was punching the sofa and screaming at the tv. Aqualani and torres being on the pitch are the only good things about tonight.

[Robinson]

Thank god that we had Debrecen in our easy group-or we would have come last.

[longballs]

Kuyt not good enough for Liverpool.

 

Insua not good enough for Liverpool.

 

 

Insua has time on his side and it's just unfortunate that he has had to play so many games at this stage.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Rafa's completely lost it, he's not capable of getting any kind of performance out of his players now no matter what his selection. Feel sorry for Darbs but hopefully he'll take it on the chin and move onwards and upwards. It's quite sad to see what was a great manager for us who will always be remembered favourably in our history decline so rapidly, there's no way he can turn it around, I actually feel sorry for him now.

[dennis tooth]

Dirk kuyt must be dropped he was absolutely abysmal tonight, im shocked at how bad he's become. Also insua doesn't seem to know where he is on the pitch or when someone is behind him sneaking round the back. I know this was a nothing game but by the end i was punching the sofa and screaming at the tv. Aqualani and torres being on the pitch are the only good things about tonight.[/QUOTE]

 

Pacheco, Cavelieri?

[George Costanza]

Insua is average to decent. Never should be first choice but like Warnock previously is a good enough backup for the regular left back - which should not be Aureli since he's fucking injured all the fucking time. Need to get rid of him.

[Kurt]

Dirk Kuyt wasn't awful

 

I agree...

 

He was absolutely woeful.

[James Dean]

Meh.

[Paul]

Dirk kuyt must be dropped he was absolutely abysmal tonight, im shocked at how bad he's become. Also insua doesn't seem to know where he is on the pitch or when someone is behind him sneaking round the back. I know this was a nothing game but by the end i was punching the sofa and screaming at the tv. Aqualani and torres being on the pitch are the only good things about tonight.[/QUOTE]

 

Pacheco, Cavelieri?

 

Must admit, he surprised me. After Gerrard, I thought he was our best player. Good job, too...

[JohnnyH]

I agree with those who say that Dirk is awful right now (as opposed to adequate at his best), but the lack of options for our left wing and right back positions means I'd play him anyway. At least with more quality around him his deficiencies are less glaring and there are other players who can compensate for his shite touch, pace and passing.

 

I agree with you there Paul. Kuyt is not playing well, but his work rate causes enough trouble that, for me, he should start against Arsenal in front of Johnson.

 

Aurelio has to start also. Insua, from a good start, is going more and more backwards and needs to be dropped.

[dennis tooth]

Gerrard was awful to while we are at it.

Aquilani? I can see why Rafa has been so cautious with him. The defensive side of his game is just not there, players just run past him and then he runs behind them for a bit seems to be the sum of it. Reason we lost control and we looked porous.

[Trucker Paddy]

I think come sunday it looks like we can pick from a full squad. I think we all basically know the main 11, but out of that 11, the one person I would seriously drop is Kuyt.

He looks awful at the minute.

 

Never gona happen, hes Rafas love child.

[Original202]

 

Must admit, he surprised me. After Gerrard, I thought he was our best player. Good job, too...

 

 

I'd like to see Cavalieri play in more league games, just to keep him sharp. There's plenty of home games where Reina has very little to do other than take a few goal kicks.

 

It wouldn't hurt to play Cavalieri in these games just to keep him involved, and while he might not have much to do it's better than him sitting on the bench.

 

Or maybe, heaven forbid, he could even play for the reserves.

[Chinandeler Bong]

I don't know what the rest of the post match reaction is, but I'd start with Aqualani, I thought our midfield looked sharp and full of energy with the triangle of Masch Aqua and SG, add Torres up front and I like it to be honest.

 

We throw Lucas back in and its side ways back and the same old predictable rubbish.

 

It sounds to me a few people have been a bit harsh on the lad. Just going by your post and what you answered Kurt. Not having a pop by the way.

 

Yer right about Lucas but we all know he'll be back in there Sunday barring an Injury mate , its nailed on.

[George Costanza]

Fuck workrate. Give me a lazy fucking attacker who knows where the net is anyday of the week.

[Original202]

I agree with you there Paul. Kuyt is not playing well, but his work rate causes enough trouble that, for me, he should start against Arsenal in front of Johnson.

 

Aurelio has to start also. Insua, from a good start, is going more and more backwards and needs to be dropped.

 

For his team mates maybe, but not the opposition.

[Mr T]

Kuyt is just so fucking bad it's offensive. Rafa is sticking two fingers up at the fans by playing this guy continually IMO. Rafa ffs, you're meant to be a politician, if you don't start making a few populist moves soon you'll be out on your arse and you'll only have yourself to blame you stubborn bugger.

 

By the way did anyone get the final Dirk-watch stats?

[Paul]

Gerrard was awful to while we are at it.

Aquilani? I can see why Rafa has been so cautious with him. The defensive side of his game is just not there, players just run past him and then he runs behind them for a bit seems to be the sum of it. Reason we lost control and we looked porous.

 

Even though he wasn't his imperious best, I thought his dead ball play was superb; he created loads of decent chances that were spurned. I agree with you on Aquilani though.

 

Don't take this personally, but are we now playing players because they work hard, and totally forget the fact that there stinking the house out?

 

What do you mean "now"?