Chelsea

[Numero Veinticinco]

36 minutes ago, Dr Nowt said:

Once more with feeling.

Negged for quoting yourself and because 11 people repped it. Fucking good post though. 

[Anubis]

I imagine the players will stump up for their own flight and hotel.

[bizzle10]

Dont Chelsea owe Abramovich over a billion are the new owners going to pay off that debt ? and im guessing with sale Abramovich wont get a penny but be taken by the goverment ? this seems a whole mess i bet the bitters now dont know who uncle Uzi now

[Pidge]

1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Seriously, do we have to play semantics? I just tried to answer your question about rules.

 

In my opinion the Government sanctions on chelsea nullifies any Premier League rules about visiting fans at chelsea's ground or, chelsea's away support visiting away games.

 

It doesnt matter whether we agree or not, the sanctions mean away fans cannot buy tickets for games at chelsea. Likewise, chelsea fans cannot buy away tickets.

 

Will the PL, FA UEFA now sanction chelsea for not allowing away fans into their ground for games? In my opinion, no, they wont because the British Government has acted to ban visiting fans.

I'm really not trying to argue, nor am I picking holes, I'm trying to find out if this has been established yet. I was clarifying an edit I was already thinking of making before you responded, not playing semantics. 

 

My view is that the sanctions prohibit any funds going into Chelsea (and most out of). I don't think that inherently prohibits attendance by away fans (although that appears to be right interpretation in practice as of now), as funds don't have to go to them.

 

The PL rules exist in isolation and the league has to decide how they will be adapted to ensure they don't break the law (which, of course, is the overriding authority). I don't see how they can fulfil their fixtures without variation and wanted to know if there had been any statement about that.

 

Until there is, it's probably best we leave it.

[Leyton388]

[chrisbrand]

58 minutes ago, JagSquared said:

Assume the government will sell the club and hold onto the money in a trust? So might not be too much long term impact on them unless they go bust in the interim period.

No, his assets have only been frozen. The government can't sell the club.

[Section_31]

If it was virtually any other club I wouldn't want them to disappear, but they're an absolutely grotesque construct from top to bottom, good riddance.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

You’ve got to feel for them.*
 

worrying times…
 

*not really! 

[lifetime fan]

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of cunts. 

[Josef Svejk]

8 minutes ago, Nelly-Fauci said:

You’ve got to feel for them.*
 

worrying times…
 

*not really! 

Joking aside, are shitworkers there and elsewhere around the club going to get paid? 

[Scott_M]

[DJLJ]

46 minutes ago, Pidge said:

I'm really not trying to argue, nor am I picking holes, I'm trying to find out if this has been established yet. I was clarifying an edit I was already thinking of making before you responded, not playing semantics. 

 

My view is that the sanctions prohibit any funds going into Chelsea (and most out of). I don't think that inherently prohibits attendance by away fans (although that appears to be right interpretation in practice as of now), as funds don't have to go to them.

 

The PL rules exist in isolation and the league has to decide how they will be adapted to ensure they don't break the law (which, of course, is the overriding authority). I don't see how they can fulfil their fixtures without variation and wanted to know if there had been any statement about that.

 

Until there is, it's probably best we leave it.

Sky Sports News chief reporter Kaveh Solhekol:

"From today, Chelsea cannot sell  tickets to any games. So the only people who can go to Stamford Bridge and watch a game are those who have already purchased match tickets or season tickets."

[gkmacca]

The PL hasn't helped itself by meekly agreeing to make all clubs pay back Sky a fortune because its games without crowds were deemed 'different' from the package agreed originally. That was such a woozily illogical judgement I'm not sure they have any consistent argument to evade all the penalties that, technically, will now be facing Chelski. Saying 'It's not our fault' has been wiped out as an excuse by the PL itself. I said at the time that clubs should've refused that 'refund' because, after all, it was of no fault of theirs that they were playing games without spectators. Now that a precedent has been set, what would be so vastly different about Chelski playing games now with - at best - a half-full stadium? That's 'different' from THEIR package submitted to Sky. They've put themselves in a position where the letter of their own laws are all that can be recognissed if they're going to be consistent.

[Dr Nowt]

Might have been hasty sacking Fat Frank, they’re going to need to fill that first team up with youth players again.

[gkmacca]

16 minutes ago, Nelly-Fauci said:

 

'Closed for today until further notice' - they can't even type up and print a coherent statement, the laminated twats.

[Scott_M]

God, I wish the league cup final was this Sunday.

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

You'll hear a lot of 'this isn't fair, we didn't do anything wrong, it's not our fault', fuck off; you cheered the last 15 years whilst getting trophies off the back of the Putin regime's ill gotten gains. You waved the plastic flags. You sang about how rich you were. You sang about Abramovich when there was an applause for the Ukraine. Fuck off back to the holes you crawled out of, you polished-up Millwall cunts. 

[Scott_M]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You'll hear a lot of 'this isn't fair, we didn't do anything wrong, it's not our fault', fuck off; you cheered the last 15 years whilst getting trophies off the back of the Putin regime's ill gotten gains. You waved the plastic flags. You sang about how rich you were. You sang about Abramovich when there was an applause for the Ukraine. Fuck off back to the holes you crawled out of, you polished-up Millwall cunts. 

The loudest they were at Wembley was “Always The Victim” and, I didn’t see it, were absolute gobshites on WW. 

 

Karma comes at you fast, cunts.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I wonder if the timing of all this is coincidental? 
 

If not, it’s quite a shite birthday present, like! 
 

[Pidge]

12 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

Sky Sports News chief reporter Kaveh Solhekol:

"From today, Chelsea cannot sell  tickets to any games. So the only people who can go to Stamford Bridge and watch a game are those who have already purchased match tickets or season tickets."

Yeah, but the BBC highlighting Brentford being halfway through selling their allocation highlights the question of how it applies to away fans. 

 

Plus all that would do is confirm that they can't comply with the league rules. In which case, what is the position? For instance, if they were to go on and win the league (not impossible) how could that be valid?

 

Expecting an announcement soon, expecting it to be a disappointing one where the rest of the league has to accommodate them. Depending on their financial projections, that might be adequate, but if it's just the easiest way forward I don't see why away teams should be disadvantaged.

 

Need to say as well, this is obviously minor compared to the reason behind the sanctions. Ukraine's situation massively overshadows all of this. The best solution is Putin fucks off and these measures can be reversed.

[Lario]

Has anybody asked Stavely what she thinks?

[Lee909]

They better be forced into paying back the massive debt they have to him. If he's just removed from ownership and they get to void the fucking 1.5 billion loan its just another Nail in the coffin of ffp

[No2]

These sanctions are from the UK government, who are treating Chelsea as a special case for cultural reasons. When the EU get involved there has to be a huge chance they won't give 2 fulcs about Chelsea's cultural significance and say they can't play CL football in the EU.

[dockers_strike]

2 minutes ago, Lario said:

Has anybody asked Stavely what she thinks?

She's massively disappointed someone is having their club taken off them. Allegedly.

[Scott_M]