Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

22 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

She really is one of the vilest human beings on twitter. A hypocritical, attention seeking, lying, self-absorbed cunt of the highest order. 

She'll sue you, lad! 

[Anubis]

9 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Wow!

 

Anyone bringing Heller's Jewishness into that should, quite rightly, have their arses kicked for anti-Semitism. 

The way I read that is the Chronicle are making the point he is Jewish, not Ice Cube.

[Neil G]

2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

The way I read that is the Chronicle are making the point he is Jewish, not Ice Cube.

I think that was Angry’s point.

[Anubis]

Although I have read that one of Cube's tracks after the split contains the line about letting "a Jew break up my crew."

 

So maybe they have a point. I don't see what Heller being a Jew would have to do with them splitting. By all means accuse him of playing divide and conquer because you think he was a twat, but no need to drag his ethnicity into it.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 minutes ago, Neil G said:

I think that was Angry’s point.

Indeed.

 

A generation or two before NWA, the history of rock & roll was littered with black artists being shafted by white managers.  Cunts.

[Anubis]

4 minutes ago, Neil G said:

I think that was Angry’s point.

 

Now you've pointed it out, my bad.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

6 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Although I have read that one of Cube's tracks after the split contains the line about letting "a Jew break up my crew."

 

So maybe they have a point. I don't see what Heller being a Jew would have to do with them splitting. By all means accuse him of playing divide and conquer because you think he was a twat, but no need to drag his ethnicity into it.

The JC mention some of the lyrics about Heller too. But, the way the article is worded suggests that the mere claim that Heller ripped them off was, in itself, tinged with antisemitism. 

[aRdja]

40 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

She really is one of the vilest human beings on twitter. A hypocritical, attention seeking, lying, self-absorbed cunt of the highest order. 

You’re not allowed to say that if you’ve done drugs.

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

You’re not allowed to say that if you’ve done drugs.

What?

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

What?

That’s the rule apparently.

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

You’re not allowed to say that if you’ve done drugs.

Ha ha, touched a nerve that didn’t you big fucking hypocrite.  

[aRdja]

7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Ha ha, touched a nerve that didn’t you big fucking hypocrite.  

Just a bit baffled by your muddled thinking (no offence). Don’t think I’ve seen a grown man as offended you seemed to be, by strangers doing drugs. Shouldn’t be so uptight. Who knows you might like it. 

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

She'll sue you, lad! 

 

 

[mattyq]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

Just a bit baffled by your muddled thinking (no offence). Don’t think I’ve seen a grown man as offended you seemed to be, by strangers doing drugs. Shouldn’t be so uptight. Who knows you might like it. 

What drugs are you talking about?

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

Just a bit baffled by your muddled thinking (no offence). Don’t think I’ve seen a grown man as offended you seemed to be, by strangers doing drugs. Shouldn’t be so uptight. Who knows you might like it. 

You’ve missed the point again. I couldn’t give a fuck what drugs you take, really couldn’t care less. I’d be a hypocrite if I did too as I’ve taken my fair share in the past. 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I've always thought that the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement have a job to be front and centre in the fight against racism.  I can't help thinking that Jeremy Corbyn and Jennie Formby would have shown a lot more active leadership in the last few weeks, if they were still in charge.

 

Ah, well.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I've always thought that the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement have a job to be front and centre in the fight against racism.  I can't help thinking that Jeremy Corbyn and Jennie Formby would have shown a lot more active leadership in the last few weeks, if they were still in charge.

 

Ah, well.

You don’t need to be in charge of Labour to be front and centre in the fight against racism. What has Corbyn been doing this last couple of weeks?

[Numero Veinticinco]

I checked his Twitter...

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Starmer's response has been lukewarm, at best. Dealing with the allegations of racism at senior levels in the party itself would be a good start. I'd also like to see him come out swinging against the violent racists in London yesterday  (Starmer's tweet on the subject, unlike that of Boris fucking Johnson, didn’t even mention the word "racism") and those in the media and in politics who radicalise and encourage white supremacists. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Oh, we’re talking about Starmer now. It probably would have been better just to criticise him rather than do it veiled with ‘if Corbyn...’ because we saw how well Labour tackled racism under Corbyn. It came out looking like a fucking joke. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

22 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Starmer's response has been lukewarm, at best. Dealing with the allegations of racism at senior levels in the party itself would be a good start. I'd also like to see him come out swinging against the violent racists in London yesterday  (Starmer's tweet on the subject, unlike that of Boris fucking Johnson, didn’t even mention the word "racism") and those in the media and in politics who radicalise and encourage white supremacists. 

Starmer just seems to be lukewarm in general. I'm hoping it's something he can improve on as time goes by.

 

[sir roger]

It all has the whiff of leadership by ' focus group ' rather than conviction.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 hours ago, Hank Moody said:

we saw how well Labour tackled racism under Corbyn. It came out looking like a fucking joke. 

How so?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 hours ago, Hank Moody said:

Oh, we’re talking about Starmer now. 

It was more about missing Corbyn's anti-racist instincts, which would be perfectly suited for these times.

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

How so?

By stopping all the racism he caused these past few weeks or something like that.