Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Stu Monty]

YESSS!

 

I've finally got my 1 millionth 'Labour left the country in financial mess' comment. What do I win?

 

You get to grow a fledgling recovery (after putting it back into recession) to a point widely accepted to be about 10 to 15 percent down on where it would have been without dismally poorly thought out austerity!

 

Yay!

[Hand Shandy]

I have it on good authority that when Labour came into power, the NHS was in rude health, with an outstanding infrastructure, practically no waiting lists and wonderful new hospitals.

 

They didn't need to spend a penny on it.

 

Easy this lark...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please note, I work in the health sector/service and I am fully aware of how PFI deals are crippling public sector organisations.

 

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

You get to grow a fledgling recovery (after putting it back into recession) to a point widely accepted to be about 10 to 15 percent down on where it would have been without dismally poorly thought out austerity!

 

Yay!

I don't like the sound of that at all. It's almost like it was a waste of time playing 'Labour did it' bingo.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Now now, I have it on good authority that Labour left the country in rude financial health, and that the outstanding PFI hospital bill of £60bn they left behind is nothing to write home about.

I've no reason to defend labour I think they're pricks too. Torys Introduced PFIs to the NHS and labour went to town with them. Shameful from the party who created the NHS in the first place. It's the establishment that's completely fucked, the whole peado lot of it needs smashing to pieces and re made.

[Stu Monty]

The terms of the PFIs are scandalous. It needs saying that when Labour came into power they had to do what they always have to do and try and sort out the bits of the country that the tories just let fall apart when they are in power. You know, like schools and hospitals and stuff for the masses.  Without a magic money tree I can see the lure of the PFI idea to try and sort that out. But, as I say, the rates are scandalous. Criminal really.

[mattyq]

It's Major Tom, isn't it?

 

Green Party achieves 100 per cent approval among tiresome Steiner parents

21-04-15

 

SELF-SATISFIED Steiner couples are totally behind the Green Party, it has emerged.

People who send their children to gnome-themed private school confirmed they were far too enlightened to even consider any political alternatives.

38-year-old Steiner dad Julian Cook said: “We’re probably a bit greener than the Greens what with our commitment to composting dead pets. They’re a little mainstream, but they’ll do.

“The planet matters to us, our son’s middle name is actually Biosphere. In fact he has two middle names, the other is a character from Welsh mythology that you wouldn’t have heard of.

“But he’s very sensitive to the subtle rhythms of the planet, as is everyone in this household. It’s because we were all educated partly through the medium of dance rather than wasting time on reading.”

Cook’s wife Sarah said: “The Green Party understands Steiner parents like us who work hard, or at least as hard as is necessary when you have a modest family trust fund, and want to let our kids run around annoying everyone.

“While at the same time being weirdly strict and disapproving with other people’s children.”

[Anubis]

YESSS!I've finally got my 1 millionth 'Labour left the country in financial mess' comment. What do I win?

A shedload more debt than when the coalition took over - and a bigger gap between the richest people and you.

[Dr Nowt]

David Schneider ‏@davidschneider 10m10 minutes ago

How can Tories have a man who pretends to be someone he's not as chair? They're the party of working people, they love the NHS and oh I see.

[Section_31]

Read a wikipedia page once for IDS which said he was the son of Auschwitz camp commander Rudolph Hoss. It says a lot that I didn't immediately discount it as a possibility (I briefly confused Hoss with Hess, who I knew had fled to Scotland, and who I reasoned may have spawned IDS there somewhere.) 

[Dr Nowt]

dai baker ‏@daibaker Apr 21

After interviewing Dave on his battle bus last week this is where we were dumped as soon the interview was finished.

 

[Dr Nowt]

Credit where credit's due to the Lib Dems for their comments on this twat: 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/21/grant-shapps-accused-of-editing-wikipedia-pages-of-tory-rivals?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

The Liberal Democrats later put out a tongue in cheek response to the revelations about Shapps. A press release from the party said: “Grant is a wonderful guy – he is a credit to the Conservative Party, a fine sportsman and reads a book a day. We could all learn a lot from him.

 

“He has led the Tories with exemplary skill and if, like me, you have been lucky enough to meet him – you know you have been touched by greatness.

 

“Quite simply, a colossus.”

 

“This Press Release has been edited by Wikipedia user Contribsx.”

[Sugar Ape]

Credit where credit's due to the Lib Dems for their comments on this twat: 

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/21/grant-shapps-accused-of-editing-wikipedia-pages-of-tory-rivals?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

The Liberal Democrats later put out a tongue in cheek response to the revelations about Shapps. A press release from the party said: “Grant is a wonderful guy – he is a credit to the Conservative Party, a fine sportsman and reads a book a day. We could all learn a lot from him.

 

“He has led the Tories with exemplary skill and if, like me, you have been lucky enough to meet him – you know you have been touched by greatness.

 

“Quite simply, a colossus.”

 

“This Press Release has been edited by Wikipedia user Contribsx.”

 

Also, This:

 

Grant Shapps is a fine man and has never done anything dodgy – Paddy Ashdown

 

Grant Shapps is a wonderful human being, a literary great and has in no way ever brought his party or politics into disrepute, the Chairman of the Liberal Democrat General Election Campaign said.

 

Paddy Ashdown called the Conservative Party Chairman a credit to his craft and applauded him for his contribution to writing, including for his Booker Prize-winning novel ‘Stinking Rich Three’.

 

The former Liberal Democrat leader also urged journalists to stop calling Mr Shapps ‘Michael Green’ – because it is definitely not funny and was entirely normal for politicians to use alter-egos.

[Dr Nowt]

Read a wikipedia page once for IDS which said he was the son of Auschwitz camp commander Rudolph Hoss. It says a lot that I didn't immediately discount it as a possibility (I briefly confused Hoss with Hess, who I knew had fled to Scotland, and who I reasoned may have spawned IDS there somewhere.) 

 

Just happened to see this retweeted a minute ago.

 

[Section_31]

Really good piece by Owen Jones about the choice between Labour and Conservative, sums up my views. 

 

 

It’s a moment many of us who oppose this government have had: something that powerfully crystallises just what is at stake. For me, it was on 17 July 2014. Sue Jones tweeted me: her disabled daughter had died; thus she had a spare room; thus she had to pay the bedroom tax. “It’s been an epic nightmare,” she wrote. “Shameful and cruel.”

It had been “like dealing with robots”, she later told me. “No room for discussion. Their answer was, pay or move.” I felt fury – cold, seething fury – but I also had a moment of panic. A cruel, remorseless society was being built where predominantly poor people with a disability or a close family member who was disabled were being forced to cough up money they didn’t have or downsize to smaller properties that didn’t exist; where instead of building desperately needed council housing, we balanced the nation’s books on the backs of grieving, impoverished parents.

What if it wasn’t a passing nightmare, in which poor mothers lost their beloved children and had to contribute to the exchequer while the richest avoided tax on an industrial scale? What if this was a new normal, and we were on a permanent journey towards ever greater callousness and selfishness?

Labour commits to abolishing bedroom tax

 

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Above all else, I wanted to end the suffering of her and all those like her. And I can – or at least I can play my part. When the bedroom tax was imposed, a coalition of those affected by it and those enraged by it took to the streets. They say protest doesn’t work; “they” are wrong, because that campaigning paid off.Labour committed to repealing the bedroom tax as a consequence.

Many say that there isn’t enough of a gap between Labour and the Tories, and my sympathies are with them. But in that gap are people such as Sue. Those who say there is no difference whatsoever are surely not being pummelled by the bedroom tax. The removal of that despicable policy will mean everything to hundreds of thousands of the poorest people in Britain. If this was just a referendum on the bedroom tax, that alone would be sufficient reason to voteLabour.

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Indeed, those who claim there is no difference between Labour and the Tories do down every single person who has protested and campaigned over the last few years. UK Uncutoccupied shops and businesses that refuse to pay tax as our services and welfare state are shredded. Many of those activists, my friends among them, were arrested. Their sacrifice was not in vain: they forced the issue on to the agenda, and have everything to do with Labour’s promised clampdown on tax avoidance and non-dom status.

Trade unionists and other activists sick of British workers being commodities to be hired and fired won a commitment from Labour to clamp down on zero-hours contracts. Dogged NHS campaigners won a Labour pledge to reverse privatisation, and even a partial renunciation of New Labour’s obsession with the private sector. The persistence of anti-war protestors over so many years culminated in Ed Miliband’s vetoing of the proposed bombing of Syria, a dramatic rupture with the bomb-happy leadership of Tony Blair. Who knows? Islamic State could be in Damascus right now if things had panned out differently.

What does all this tell us? Campaigners can put pressure on the Labour leadership, and they can extract concessions that could transform lives. I am already savouring the battles ahead with the Labour leadership: to introduce a living wage, a radical council house-building programme, genuine tax justice, public ownership of utilities and services, and far-reaching workers’ rights; to not splash out tens of billions on weapons of mass destruction. With enough determination, these are battles we can win. Under the Tories? No chance. And that is the point: I would rather be arguing with a Labour government than fighting a Tory government.

Critics say that Labour will introduce its own austerity. And they are right. Cuts will be no less painful because they are Labour cuts rather than Tory cuts. But the gap in spending between the two parties is an estimated £50bn. The probable supporter of a Labour minority government, the SNP, has very similar spending plans to Ed Miliband. Every single cut that harms people – whoever introduces them – must be fought. But how many nurses, houses, jobs, and human beings are in that £50bn gap?

Campaigners can put pressure on the Labour leadership, and they can extract concessions that could transform lives

Those disillusioned with Labour resent the suggestion they should vote for the party because of our electoral system, which has clearly now descended into farce, unable to deliver stable majority governments – its supposed upside. It needs to be replaced so people can vote freely, according to their conscience. Minority parties should demand a referendum on proportional representation as a condition of supporting a Labour government; the SNP is privately resisting this because it benefits from the current arrangement, and pressure should be brought to bear.

But let me just be upfront to those who share my frustrations with Labour. If you are in a marginal seat, you may vote for a candidate you believe is closer to your views. You will feel a sudden rush of exhilaration and satisfaction. But will that feeling survive an announcement a few hours later that a Tory or a Lib Dem has been returned as your MP? Will it endure David Cameron standing and grinning victoriously on the steps of No 10, or another five years of George Osborne, of Iain Duncan Smith, of Michael Gove?

We face the nightmare scenario of a Tory government propped up by Ukip and the political wing of the 17th century, otherwise known as the Protestant fundamentalists of the DUP. It will lead to a suffocating period of rightwing triumphalism. You spent years screeching about austerity, they will tell us, and still David Cameron was delivered back to No 10. The NHS, the welfare state, remaining workers’ rights and social housing: all face being shredded. Labour will shift dramatically to the right, probably under the political shapeshifter Chuka Umunna as leader.

The lesson of the 1980s is that the longer the Tories are in power, the more desperate people become to kick them out at any cost. That’s how Tony Blair came about. Opponents of the Tories gritted their teeth: anything to be rid of them. Protests may diminish and activists may ask themselves what the point is. There will be no chance of electoral reform.

The establishment, from Rupert Murdoch to Goldman Sachs, is desperate for Labour to lose. Do we wish to defeat it, or not? For me, the election of a Labour government is not the endpoint: it’s the beginning of campaigns and struggles that would, under Toryism, be doomed. And it comes back to Sue. I don’t suffer from the bedroom tax, but I want to be able to look in the eyes of those who do. So vote Labour – and prepare to fight.

[Gnasher]

The socialist Labour Party

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32384397

[Skidfingers McGonical]

If Scargill wasnt involved, I could be tempted.

[Creator Supreme]

The brass fucking neck of this hunt, sorry cunt:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32413970

[Anubis]

Bevan wouldn't just turn in his grave, Jeremy, if he could he'd climb out of it and disembowl you, Osborne and Cameron.

[King Emlyn]

I think it was Churchill who said something like not a socialist at 20 no heart, a socialist at 40 no brain, I find it's the opposite with me, not that I consider myself a socialist as such and not that I was even approaching Conservatism in my 20s it's just that the older I get ( and boy am I getting old) the more important I think it is that once you've taken care of your own you should then help others as much as you can, this Government is contrary to that viewpoint in just about every way possible. I genuinely hate the Conservative party.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Being ace at beating the Germans aside, Churchill is best ignored.

[Strontium]

The socialist Labour Party

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32384397

 

Good of Scargill to fill the breach left by Screaming Lord Sutch.

[Scooby Dudek]

The brass fucking neck of this hunt, sorry cunt:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-wales-32413970

I saw that, fucking disgusting cunt. These people either have no shame or are completely un self aware (most likely both).

The thought of them getting in genuinely scares me

[Section_31]

Ironic really that Churchill lost out to the greatest socialist government that's ever existed. There's nothing quite like lots of young men coming home from war who know how to use guns and don't have a pot to piss in to make an establishment sit up and take notice.

 

Makes me laugh that a lot of the baby boomers who make up the spine of the Tory (and now UKIP) rank and file are only wealthy, healthy, and indeed - still alive because they were fortunate enough to be born into a cradle to grave left wing paradise, the idea of which they now so despise.

 

Walking around with two false hips and a pacemaker, with a free degree under their belts and a final salary pension in the bank from their heavily unionised job for life which they use to go on four holidays a year, having the brass balls to begrudge paying a few extra quids' tax - the utter cunts.

[clangers]

Ironic really that Churchill lost out to the greatest socialist government that's ever existed. There's nothing quite like lots of young men coming home from war who know how to use guns and don't have a pot to piss in to make an establishment sit up and take notice.

 

 

Just reflecting for a moment on the choice available to the electorate in 1945, Churchill or Attlee compared to the choice available to us today. Something has gone very wrong.

[Brownie]

My missus has completed her postal vote and told me this morning that there were two ballot papers; 1 for the party you want to vote for and 1 for the candidate.

 

That doesn't sound right to me? I thought you just voted for the candidate (which was a vote for the party by proxy)?

 

Anybody else got a postal vote to check?