George Galloway

[dennis tooth]

First time I've ever seen that.

 

I'd have a tad more respect for her but still compleyely disagree.

 

Check her wiki page.

[dennis tooth]

The point is Dennis that a good local MP, is not the same as a politician. I don't mean that to sound smart arse, but Steve Rotheram, and such will do their work for their local area and will do so for most of their career, me and you will never get to know what that work does and never be in a position to judge that work.

 

What the fuck does Galloway bring to Bradford? He isn't from the area, he isn't from Yorkshire, he is very pro Muslim (which isn't a negative) but in this instance seems to be entirely what he is about.

 

Galloway isn't whiter than white regarding supporting regimes that are murderous, he just isn't Tony Blair who can do it officially! George Galloway will always do what is best for George Galloway, his causes will be what appeal to his moral standards and not necessarily what is right. He is no different to any career politican, he is just representitive of a niche.

 

Yeah fair points but we need a mix of both, if he'd stand up for national issues more he'd be of more use is exactly the point I was trying to make.

Galloway, Im not sure how he's supported regimes, Id disagree he has done, he supports the people not any regime but I guess thrown mud sticks.

I dont think hes needs to be from bradford really does he? Maybe people voted for policies he'd set out? Personally I couldnt care less what he brings to Bradford as Im not living their with a vote in my hand to cast. Clearly he campaigns hard and his record shows he gets results. The other option would have been Labour or the greens, you know my feelings on Labour and I do like the green party but if Galloway can ride in and win that then they should be asking why they arent able to cash in on everyone elses unpopularity and campaign harder perhaps?

[stringvest]

Abbott isn't a good MP. She's an opportunist, and she is almost defiantly dim. Lammy is a Blairite cipher (so he'll probably be a candidate for the leadership in 18 months) and GG is a mad fuck. That said, I'd vote for any of them should they be standing here, because the alternatives are even more depressing. I'm in the neighbouring constituency to Brendan, and there ain't no way a non-Tory is getting voted in in these parts, ever.

[stringvest]

Not sure what you mean but I dont find it racially offensive, for me I could use the terminology on a white man and its equally applicable to any race.

In fact, Malcolm X taught me the term so I feel it is perfectly relevant and not a racial term at all anymore than calling someone a yellowbelly.

 

When I was growing up in Liverpool, the lad who used to collect the pools coupons was called Malcolm, so he shared his nickname with the former Nation of Islam big cheese. True story.

[dennis tooth]

Abbott isn't a good MP. She's an opportunist, and she is almost defiantly dim. Lammy is a Blairite cipher (so he'll probably be a candidate for the leadership in 18 months) and GG is a mad fuck. That said, I'd vote for any of them should they be standing here, because the alternatives are even more depressing. I'm in the neighbouring constituency to Brendan, and there ain't no way a non-Tory is getting voted in in these parts, ever.

 

Abbott yeah I just give her props for voting against trident and iraq war and maybe some other stuff shes done. Agree on the other point though, slim pickings isnt it? Shame the greens cant get any media support then maybe they could be scrutinised to see if their upto it, the question cant even get raised in the media though, we are too busy talking pasties and Princess middlestons latest haircut.

[Section_31]

Chuka Umunna seems alright.

[Strontium]

Chuka Umunna seems alright.

 

 

Is he still boning Luciana?

[dennis tooth]

Chuka Umunna seems alright.

 

Yeah some of the blue labour background links are a bit disconecerting though, not sure about that stuff. Seems a bit similar to social conservatism/'big society' shite although an improvement on new labour seems to have been made in response to 'red tory' shite not to mention the fact that he comes from an immigrant family and given the blue labour position on it seems hypocritical as well.

 

Blue Labour was an influential[1] political tendency in the British Labour Party that was "effectively disbanded"[2] in July 2011 following remarks about immigration by Lord Glasman,[3] though political commentators argue that its ideas still have strong influence with the Labour leadership.[4] The grouping advocates the belief that working class and 'squeezed middle' voters will be won back to Labour through more conservative policies on certain social and international issues, such as immigration and crime,[5] a rejection of neoliberal economics[6] in favour of ideas from guild socialism and continental corporatism,[7] and a switch to local and democratic community management and provision of services,[8] rather than relying on a traditional welfare state that is seen as excessively 'bureaucratic'.[9]

 

Blue Labour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Plus it was organised and run by effectively by the cunt who is the puppetmaster behind Ed Milliband, thankfully someone stopped that shit:

 

Blue Labour, the informal Labour policy group established by Ed Miliband advisor Maurice Glasman, is to be effectively disbanded.

 

Labour MP Jon Cruddas and Middlesex University academic Jonathan Rutherford have both informed Lord Glasman they no longer wish to be associated with the project following an interview given by the controversial peer in which he expressed a belief that immigration to the UK should be completely halted.

New Statesman - Exclusive: the end of Blue Labour

 

Gordon Brown would call Maurice Glasman a bigotted man Im sure but I digress. Chuk is an improvement on Ed for sure but why didnt he throw his hat in the ring? Perhaps he's been ringfenced off from being in a leadership battle but my guess is Labour would be better placed and surely couldnt do much worse than the plastic Ed pretending to laugh with the common man in a bakery over some sausage rolls as the cameras just happend to click?

I'd be happy with a crackhead over Ed however, Chuk has had a lot of hype but where is he while Ed is fumbling his lines at the check-in desk "Two weeks, return to the negotiating table etc, etc" (repeat x10)?

I'll tell you where Chuk is, right behind him, all the way.

 

The English Obama, well I hope not but as I say, its high time he made some power moves, is he in politics to make mates with wet fannies like milliband or to do something?

[Anubis]

Galloway wants to give cats the right to vote

 

Er, what? And can you please point us in the direction of the evidence for this?

[Whelan]

Perhaps someone can explain his support for Anti abortion and pro life movements? Not exactly in line with his Liberal principles is it?

 

He is, in turn an old fashioned bigot with convenient political views. His lack of respect for the status quo is good, but it can't be enough to ignore all his obvious faults. It doesn't seem to me that he is offering anything different to any other politician, just that his hypocrisy seems to lie in other areas.

 

In Bradford he played up Kashmir, in London he played up Palestine, he shifts and uses causes for no other reason than getting him elected to power.

 

I agree fullly with Dennis and others that we need some shift in politics, or certainly a shift in politicians but I am not going to start with my enemies enemy is my freind bollocks. Just as Obama is no different from any other American Politician, Galloway is no different to any front line MP.

 

We need more Tony Benn's and a couple more Dennis Skinners.

[WaltonRed]

he's spot on about what he said about the people Labour sent up to Bradford

 

'Not Labour people, no real Labour background'

 

He's fucking right too

[King Emlyn]

He's a 100%, cast iron gobshite, why is this even a debate? If you can't see through this massive belter I would seriously worry for you. Vile man.

[silverlining]

Massive belter. Quality

[bossy]

 

Abbott yeah I just give her props for voting against trident and iraq war and maybe some other stuff shes done. Agree on the other point though, slim pickings isnt it? Shame the greens cant get any media support then maybe they could be scrutinised to see if their upto it, the question cant even get raised in the media though, we are too busy talking pasties and Princess middlestons latest haircut.

 

You're right about the greens; I'm a member and I'd like to see how they stand up to being taken seriously. Be good to see if I was supporting bullshitters or not.

[sparta7]

King Emlyn...massive belter is a fucking brilliant insult, I must have repped you recently as I cannot do so now.

[Phoenix]

 

In Bradford he played up Kashmir, in London he played up Palestine, he shifts and uses causes for no other reason than getting him elected to power.

 

 

He was up against British muslim ethnically from Kashmir who would hold more weight in this argument.

 

As for the palestinian issue he has been on a number of aid convoys to Gaza and his one time wife was Palestinian. I can imagine his opinions on the subject are close to what he states in public rather than just trying to make political capital out of it.

[Phoenix]

I think overwhelmingly Muslim is the reason he got in, more so than asian!

 

Surely, they would have voted for the muslim candidate if that was the case?

[VladimirIlyich]

Surely, they would have voted for the muslim candidate if that was the case?

 

Very good point.

 

The fact that he has been consistent in his support of the Iraqis,Palestinian and Afghans has probably swayed people from all communities in that constituency.

[Magic Sponge]

The man was smitten with an evil dictator.

[VladimirIlyich]

The man was smitten with an evil dictator.

 

Blair was smitten with Bush and some would say vice versa.

[Magic Sponge]

There was me thinking that we were talking about Galloway.

[Sugar Ape]

There was me thinking that we were talking about Galloway.

 

There isn't a thread on here that has anything remotely to do with politics that doesn't come round to Blair and Bush. Bored of it now.

[Magic Sponge]

Tell me about it mate. It's quite boring.

[VladimirIlyich]

Somebody mentioned evil dictators and Bush and Blair fit the bill,thats all.

 

Cast the first stone,people in glass houses etc.

[Phoenix]

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