Grenfall Tower Fire

[Bjornebye]

I'm sure they won't be charged with anything. More like given a caution for bad taste. At least though, people will know who the cunts are and someone will throw a smack there way. A well deserved one. Horrible cunts. 

[redheart]

Sorry these people are absolute vermin but we are on dodgy ground when we prosecute because somebody does something that is utterly offensive. If half the threads on here were viewed by the police a fair few people would be in the shit

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, redheart said:

Sorry these people are absolute vermin but we are on dodgy ground when we prosecute because somebody does something that is utterly offensive. If half the threads on here were viewed by the police a fair few people would be in the shit

But TK will get a Pride of Britain award for services to women. 

[Bjornebye]

40 minutes ago, redheart said:

Sorry these people are absolute vermin but we are on dodgy ground when we prosecute because somebody does something that is utterly offensive. If half the threads on here were viewed by the police a fair few people would be in the shit

Its because of the outrage in the media obviously. They need to be seen to act. Same as that cunt with the Hillsborough t-shirt a year or two back. Its easier for the buzzes to go and get these, show everyone they have acted and give them a caution rather than you know, go and investigate burglaries and stuff. 

[Section_31]

3 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

There is something deeply, deeply wrong when police and media attention is fixated on a bunch of idiots mocking the victims of a fire rather than the corner-cutting shitbags who turned a tower block into a deadly firetrap in the first place. We are all being played.

This is spot on too. 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

There is something deeply, deeply wrong when police and media attention is fixated on a bunch of idiots mocking the victims of a fire rather than the corner-cutting shitbags who turned a tower block into a deadly firetrap in the first place. We are all being played.

Dealing with both types of vermin is my preferred option.

[Denny Crane]

Apparently they attend their local Tory club. You can imagine if someone did a comparable act attended a Labour club or a momentum event. They would be described as the Corbynite hard left etc by large parts of the media.

[Rico1304]

58 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

Apparently they attend their local Tory club. You can imagine if someone did a comparable act attended a Labour club or a momentum event. They would be described as the Corbynite hard left etc by large parts of the media.

I go in a local Labour club to watch City. 

 

Fingers crossed if they go back theyll piss in their pint too. 

[Anubis]

Cunts everywhere, unfortunately.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/liverpool-homeless-man-firework-assault

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Anubis said:

Cunts everywhere, unfortunately.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/liverpool-homeless-man-firework-assault

Loads of shit like that going on. Cunts firing fireworks at Fire Engines and everything. Some twat in London lashing lit fireworks through car windows. Needs to be a ban or limit on the sale of fireworks. Loved bommy night as a kid but they were still blasting here after midnight and one has just gone off as i'm typing. Went past a massive bommy being set up on Melwood Drive just before the Tesco right by the road. It was on just a little green in-front of houses. Right next to the road. Dangerous as fuck. 

[VladimirIlyich]

3 hours ago, rico1304 said:

I go in a local Labour club to watch City. 

 

Fingers crossed if they go back theyll piss in their pint too. 

The tories will buy them pints and shake their hands.

[Rico1304]

13 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

The tories will buy them pints and shake their hands.

To be honest the Tories sponsored it. 

 

Clown. 

[VladimirIlyich]

3 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

To be honest the Tories sponsored it. 

 

Clown. 

Clown? Hit a nerve did?

Honk,honk.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Clown? Hit a nerve did?

Honk,honk.

No. Don’t worry, you’ve won ‘Top Lefty’ before 9am. Day off now. 

[Rico1304]

Another conviction for claiming to be a resident and taking £90k today, people are cunts.  

[Anubis]

Lengthy jail sentence one hopes.

[sir roger]

The only certain thing is that there will be a lot more sentences handed out for claim fraud than will ever be handed out for complicity in killing 72 people.

[Anubis]

Lest this get lost in the Brexit maelstrom.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/13/grenfell-residents-rights-were-breached-equalities-watchdog

 

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The human rights of Grenfell Tower residents were breached by the council and central government before the disaster that killed 72 people, according to a hard-hitting report by the government’s own equalities watchdog.

 

Residents’ rights to life and adequate housing were contravened before the fire started on 14 June 2017, including by allowing the use of combustible cladding and allocating flats high in the building to elderly and disabled people, many of whom died.

 

After a 15-month investigation, the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) said “the state either knew, or ought to have known, of the real and immediate risk to life posed by the cladding on Grenfell Tower”, and that regulation had failed and that it had also failed to tell residents about the dangers they faced.

 

It also criticised official handling of the fire’s aftermath, citing witnesses who alleged that the response of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea and the Home Office had been “overshadowed by racism”.

 

The body has a statutory duty to promote awareness of and protection of human rights in the UK, and its inquiry is the first into the disaster to conclude.

 

It came as frustration grows among some of the bereaved and survivors at what they consider to be the slow pace of the main public inquiry. Hearings for the second phase of the inquiry investigating the causes of the disaster won’t start this year and police said last week that any decision on possible manslaughter and corporate manslaughter charges is not expected before 2021.

 

“Everyone has the right to life and the right to safe adequate housing, but the residents of Grenfell Tower were tragically let down by the public bodies that had a duty to protect them,” said David Isaac, the chairman of the EHRC.

 

The EHRC pointed the finger at the central government and at Kensington and Chelsea, which owned the tower. It said the use of combustible cladding raised questions about “whether the UK has met its duty to protect life”. It warned that, with 354 high-rise residential and public buildings with ACM cladding yet to be fixed, “the failure to protect lives and violation of article 2 [of the European Convention on Human Rights (right to life)] continues”.

 

“Grenfell raises many questions about the suitability of the housing in the tower, for example, placing older, vulnerable and disabled people on upper floors,” it said. “Many of the people killed by the fire were older people who were housed at height.”

Firefighters have told the inquiry they did not know how to tackle the fire in the building’s cladding, and the watchdog said the government would be in breach of its duties under the European convention on human rights if it did not train firefighters to do so. It must also reconsider stay-put policies for buildings with similar cladding. Many Grenfell residents died after following advice to stay in their flats which was based on any fire remaining being contained.

 

Other issues that could amount to breaches of human rights include a lack of planning for what to do with evacuated residents, poor and sometimes non-existent consultation with residents and that “responsible authorities did not make reasonable adjustments for disabled people living in Grenfell Tower”.

 

It said: “The state has failed, and continues to fail, to meet its equality and non-discrimination obligations, in particular in relation to disabled people, older people, women and children and, in particular, ethnic minority groups.”

 

In response, officials at the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government stressed that ministers are determined to ensure a tragedy like Grenfell can never happen again, that it is reforming building regulations and has has banned combustible cladding on high-rise residential buildings, as well as hospitals, residential care homes and student halls.

 

“There is nothing more important than ensuring people are safe in their homes and those affected by the Grenfell Tower tragedy receive the support they need,” a spokesperson said. “The government is committed to supporting the community in the long term and ensuring those affected get the justice they deserve.”

 

Cllr Elizabeth Campbell, the leader of Kensington and Chelsea Council, said it would learn from the report. “That is part of our commitment in making sure Grenfell never happens again, whatever it takes and whatever the consequences for the council.”

 

[Rico1304]

Someone else convicted of fraud today. £50k claimed. It’s just mind boggling. 

[skend04]

Quick to convict people of fraud. Sitting on their hands, hoping the blame goes elsewhere, when it comes to convicting people for creating an oven in which 50 odd people were cooked alive. 

[Rico1304]

Probably another conspiracy. Or an ongoing investigation, definitely one of the two.  

[Strontium]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/grenfell-campaigner-s-words-as-he-grabbed-fire-chief-by-the-throat-i-can-keep-squeezing-a4156081.html

 

 

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A Grenfell Tower campaigner who put his hands around a fire chief’s throat in a row over the covering for the burnt-out tower block has been jailed.

Reis Morris, 29, grabbed London Fire Brigade site manager Matthew Hogan by the throat at the foot of the tower, and told him “I can keep on squeezing”.

He had sent messages to Mr Hogan before the incident on April 9, complaining about the condition of materials used to cover the structure, Hendon magistrates’ court heard.
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Morris had been given a suspended sentence in October 2017 for telling Kensington and Chelsea council deputy leader Kim Taylor-Smith “I’m coming for you” after a Grenfell vigil.

He lives close to Grenfell and lost a family member in the blaze on June 14, 2017. But magistrate Lillian Ibbett said there was no option left after his second offence but to jail him.

 

 

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Morris, from Notting Hill, admitted using threatening words with intent to cause fear of violence towards Mr Hogan.

His six-week suspended sentence was activated, with an extra two weeks in prison for the new offence. He must pay £100 compensation to Mr Hogan, as well as £250 in court costs and fees.

[Section_31]

What a curious way to bump such a thread. 

 

* strokes chin

 

Hmmmmmmmm

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Fucking grim news about the Barking fire today. Luckily it seems there are no fatalities. 

 

This is worth watching again.  Lessons weren't learned before Grenfell and it seems nothing has been learned since. 

 

 

[sir roger]

Read somewhere that the police have arrested six people under caution in relation to Grenfell.

 

Hopefully things starting to move forward for the victims.