Tories - convince me you're not evil

[Jairzinho]

I wouldn't go that far.

 

I'd just like to see them all kept far, far away from any position of influence and power.

 

Killing them would do that.

 

I'd accept putting them all on a heavily guarded desert island. But it seems more trouble than it's worth. 

[Lee909]

Id like to play Battle Royale on the isle of man with UKIP and Tory voters.

 

They are all a bit im alright so fuck you so lets see how they get on on their own.

[Jairzinho]

LFD would get some great pictures.

[cloggypop]

Just tell them it's a tax haven and they'll be right up for it.

[Rico1304]

Just tell them it's a tax haven and they'll be right up for it.

I pay enough tax to buy a small island.

[cloggypop]

I pay enough tax to buy a small island.

But not enough to keep the hospitals open.

[VladimirIlyich]

But not enough to keep the hospitals open.

The BUPA ones,yes.

[SammyAftershave]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/benefits-cut-change-tory-pip-9906018

[magicrat]

Tories - convince me you're not bonkers.

 

OK, admittedly this is from the Guardian, so they're unlikely to look favourably on this and they may have cherry-picked the quotes to make him look bad, but still I can't help thinking that once a person convinces themself that trickle-down economics is real, then they are open to any old irrational guff.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/25/astrology-help-nhs-claim-conservative-mp-david-tredinnick

 

A Conservative MP has claimed that astrology could have “a role to play in healthcare”.

 

David Tredinnick said astrology, along with complementary medicine, could take pressure off NHS doctors, but acknowledged that any attempt to spend taxpayers’ money on consulting the stars would cause “a huge row”.

 

He criticised the BBC and TV scientist Professor Brian Cox for taking a “dismissive” approach to astrology, and accused opponents of being “racially prejudiced”.

 

The MP for Bosworth, in Leicestershire, who is a Capricorn and in 2010 paid back £755 he had claimed in expenses for software that used astrology to diagnose medical conditions, told Astrological Journal: “I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors.

 

“Ninety per cent of pregnant French women use homeopathy. Astrology is a useful diagnostic tool enabling us to see strengths and weaknesses via the birth chart.

 

“And, yes, I have helped fellow MPs. I do foresee that one day astrology will have a role to play in healthcare.”

 

Mr Tredinnick, 65, added: “Astrology offers self-understanding to people. People who oppose what I say are usually bullies who have never studied astrology.

 

“Astrology was until modern times part of the tradition of medicine ... People such as Professor Brian Cox, who called astrology ‘rubbish’, have simply not studied the subject.

 

“The BBC is quite dismissive of astrology and seeks to promote the science perspective and seems always keen to broadcast criticisms of astrology.”

 

Opposition to astrology is driven by “superstition, ignorance and prejudice”, he said. “It tends to be based on superstition, with scientists reacting emotionally, which is always a great irony.

 

“They are also ignorant, because they never study the subject and just say that it is all to do with what appears in the newspapers, which it is not, and they are deeply prejudiced, and racially prejudiced, which is troubling.”

 

Ex soldier,  Probably shell-shocked

Not exactly packing the aisles to hear him in the Commons

 

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[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Tories - convince me you're not bonkers.

 

OK, admittedly this is from the Guardian, so they're unlikely to look favourably on this and they may have cherry-picked the quotes to make him look bad, but still I can't help thinking that once a person convinces themself that trickle-down economics is real, then they are open to any old irrational guff.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/25/astrology-help-nhs-claim-conservative-mp-david-tredinnick

A Conservative MP has claimed that astrology could have “a role to play in healthcare”.

David Tredinnick said astrology, along with complementary medicine, could take pressure off NHS doctors, but acknowledged that any attempt to spend taxpayers’ money on consulting the stars would cause “a huge row”.

He criticised the BBC and TV scientist Professor Brian Cox for taking a “dismissive” approach to astrology, and accused opponents of being “racially prejudiced”.

The MP for Bosworth, in Leicestershire, who is a Capricorn and in 2010 paid back £755 he had claimed in expenses for software that used astrology to diagnose medical conditions, told Astrological Journal: “I do believe that astrology and complementary medicine would help take the huge pressure off doctors.

“Ninety per cent of pregnant French women use homeopathy. Astrology is a useful diagnostic tool enabling us to see strengths and weaknesses via the birth chart.

“And, yes, I have helped fellow MPs. I do foresee that one day astrology will have a role to play in healthcare.”

Mr Tredinnick, 65, added: “Astrology offers self-understanding to people. People who oppose what I say are usually bullies who have never studied astrology.

“Astrology was until modern times part of the tradition of medicine ... People such as Professor Brian Cox, who called astrology ‘rubbish’, have simply not studied the subject.

“The BBC is quite dismissive of astrology and seeks to promote the science perspective and seems always keen to broadcast criticisms of astrology.”

Opposition to astrology is driven by “superstition, ignorance and prejudice”, he said. “It tends to be based on superstition, with scientists reacting emotionally, which is always a great irony.

“They are also ignorant, because they never study the subject and just say that it is all to do with what appears in the newspapers, which it is not, and they are deeply prejudiced, and racially prejudiced, which is troubling.”

He should be battered about the head with Simon Singh's trick or treatment, the fuckwit, wasting under resourced NHS funds on fucking hokum, he should be stripped of any public office.

[Rico1304]

He should be battered about the head with Simon Singh's trick or treatment, the fuckwit, wasting under resourced NHS funds on fucking hokum, he should be stripped of any public office.

Ok, I'm with you.

 

Can we also ban any idiot who's putting resources into Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and Islam?

[VladimirIlyich]

Ok, I'm with you.

 

Can we also ban any idiot who's putting resources into Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and Islam?

They are all self funded arent they?

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

Ok, I'm with you.

 

Can we also ban any idiot who's putting resources into Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and Islam?

Institutional sorcery and witch craft is gonna take a bit longer to wean the public off due its being a foundational part of societies for a couple of Millenia. There is still far too much invested in it, but hopefully in future generations it will continue to be dismissed.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

They are all self funded arent they?

I think there is state funding of religious education.

 

Negligible funding for prayers for sick people, though.

[Rico1304]

They are all self funded arent they?

Tax? House of Lords?

[VladimirIlyich]

Tax? House of Lords?

Sorry?

[Rico1304]

Sorry?

They receive support by not paying tax and getting places in the House of Lords.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

May has definitely ramped up the gratuitously cruel xenophobic/racist streak in her Government.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emilydugan/a-grandmother-has-been-deported-with-just-ps12-in-her-pocket?utm_term=.vgmVVPxDyj#.qhQGGOYdao

 

 

A grandmother who made headlines for being placed in immigration detention after living in Britain for nearly 30 years was forcibly removed from the country on Sunday.

BuzzFeed News revealed earlier this month that Irene Clennell, 53, was being held in Dungavel detention centre in South Lanarkshire because the government wanted to remove her to Singapore.

She is the main carer for her sick British husband, John, and has two British sons and a British granddaughter.

Speaking to BuzzFeed News from the plane on the runway at Edinburgh airport, she said she had just £12 in her pocket, nobody to stay with in Singapore, and no change of clothes.

Clennell had been planning to see a new lawyer on Monday morning to discuss the potential for a fresh case. She believes her sudden removal was planned for a Sunday so she would have no chance of getting hold of a lawyer to stop it.

Clennell, from Ouston, County Durham, said she didn’t have the chance to see her husband before being bundled off to the airport this morning. “I didn’t even get to say goodbye properly,” she said. She was allowed a phone call to tell him the news, but was barely able to speak. “I was just in tears, I wasn’t able to say much,” she said.

Speaking on a phone provided by one of her flight escorts, she described how suddenly events had unfolded: “They just came to get me this morning and said they’ve already given me a chance. Now I’m on the plane. Four people are taking me to Singapore.

 

“I don’t know what I’ll do when I land. I called my sister [in Singapore] and she said she can’t put me up, so I just don’t know. How can I stay anywhere? I don’t have a wallet with me, I’ve got about £12 in my pocket. I don’t even have my clothes, they’re at home. I just have what they took from the detention centre.”

Clennell said she was told that if she has no money and nowhere to go she should contact the regional office of the International Organisation for Migration when she lands.

She is the latest victim of the government’s spousal visa system, which requires the British partner to prove earnings of at least £18,600 – and the couple being able to show long stretches of uninterrupted time living in the UK.

Clennell spent too long out of the country while looking after her dying parents in Singapore, which meant she lost her leave to remain. Her subsequent attempts to get a more permanent visa have failed and her last visitor visa expired in 2014. The Home Office said she lost her indefinite leave to remain in the UK because she spent time living in Singapore.

Her husband was still in shock at the news that she was already on a flight to Doha, en route to Singapore. “I went to see Irene on Friday. I didn’t get a chance to see her this morning,” John Clennell said. “Dungavel is 150 miles up the road and I had no idea this was happening.”

He added: “She’s got nothing with her; all her clothes are here. What’s she supposed to do with £12? She’s got no clothes, no fresh underwear and nowhere to go.”

Speaking about the decision to remove her from the country at no notice on a Sunday, John said, “I think it was done deliberately so we couldn’t contact a solicitor or go through the courts.” The Home Office has been accused repeatedly in the past of removing migrants outside office hours to make it harder for them to put up a legal fight.

“I think it’s trickery to come on a Sunday when you can’t contact your lawyer,” John said. “I need people to see what these people have done.”

Speaking to BuzzFeed News earlier this month, Clennell talked of her fear of being forced to make a life in Singapore without her husband and children. She said: “I just want to be with my family. I don’t have anything in Singapore. I don’t have a house to go to, I don’t have a job. I feel closer to my mother-in-law and sister-in-law than my family in Singapore. My parents are both dead and I only have one sister there and we’re not that close.”

She added: “I’m British. When I’m here I feel at home. If I go to Singapore nobody will accept me there because they see me as a British woman. I wear Western clothes and my whole culture is here.”

Her only hope of a life in Britain now is an out-of-country appeal, which she has 28 days to lodge but no means to fund. BuzzFeed readers have already started pledging money for her legal costs on a GoFund me page.

A Home Office spokesman said: “All applications for leave to remain in the UK are considered on their individual merits and in line with the immigration rules. We expect those with no legal right to remain in the country to leave.”

[VladimirIlyich]

They receive support by not paying tax and getting places in the House of Lords.

I'm a lefty so therefore dont support the House of Lords. I think you are preaching to the choir on this one.

[Tj hooker]

The caring side of the Tories on show to everyone

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I see they recently lost a tribunal on PIP/mental health, where it was held that severe anxiety has, in essence, the same effects on a person's independence as being blind.

 

So, rather than abide by the ruling, they're going to overhaul the PIP rules to cut off vital support for hundreds of thousands of people, with one Tory supporting it on the basis that the support should go to the "properly disabled" (or something similar) rather than anxious people who "sit at home taking pills."

 

They're a lovely bunch. Nice to see that they're taking Theresa May's pledge on tackling mental health problems seriously though....

 

Cuuuuunnnnnnttttttts.

[Section_31]

I see they recently lost a tribunal on PIP/mental health, where it was held that severe anxiety has, in essence, the same effects on a person's independence as being blind.

 

So, rather than abide by the ruling, they're going to overhaul the PIP rules to cut off vital support for hundreds of thousands of people, with one Tory supporting it on the basis that the support should go to the "properly disabled" (or something similar) rather than anxious people who "sit at home taking pills."

 

They're a lovely bunch. Nice to see that they're taking Theresa May's pledge on tackling mental health problems seriously though....

 

Cuuuuunnnnnnttttttts.

 

A lot of people will die because of that, and I mean a lot. There is no safety net anymore, it's terrifying. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

They slipped that in whilst people's attentions were focused on the by-elections last week, the slippery scum bastards. It beggars belief that people still vote for those cunts, mainly the wannabe middle class wankers who if you made them pay off their credit cards would have next to fuck all. 

[Anubis]

Here's Michael Crick doorstepping May's top adviser today, about his role in South Thanet in the election expenses scandal.

 

https://twitter.com/michaellcrick/status/836646449958043649

[Hades]

Astrology is bullshit, but an interesting read. Bit like Freud is wrong on almost everything, but it's still worth reading him.