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Gerrard would have stayed as squad player if offered coaching role


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There would be relentless pressure for him to replace Rodgers from the fans.  It stands to reason that Brendan wanted nothing to do with it.  From FSG's perspective it got one of the highest earners off the books. 

 

I disagree with xerxes about the theme of quelling experience in the squad.  That's just a natural consequence of focussing on youth in the transfer market and getting rid of the high earners.  

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Having former players involved in the setup seems to work in Bayern, Ajax, Barca and a few other decent clubs.

 

Maybe it's an English thing where they fear big characters but if the manager fears Gerrard's presence he's at the wrong club surely?.

 

I would be surprised if Gerrard ends up managing anyway, I reckon he was punished as he spoke out a few times about player recruitment and he is one of the few people at the club people actually listen to. Maybe the owners consider him a loose cannon in other words not a yesman.

 

If you read between the lines he just wanted the loyalty by the club that he had shown over the years. The club couldn't wait to get him off the payroll and it pissed him off.

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Even with no coaching qualifications, I'm willing to bet we would finish higher in the league than Rodgers in charge. This is more a reflection on Rodgers inability to manage this side than anything. I'm willing to predict Gerrard wouldn't have Lolvren in the starting XI so he's already 1 up over Rodgers

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There were plenty of people saying it was time for him to move on when he went, Personally i was gutted but I'll admit on reflection a lot of that was sentiment. Stevie couldn't play that high tempo game any longer . I would love him back at some point as manager but he's clearly not ready to stop playing yet so it's something for the future not a solution to the current issues with Rodgers

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Alonso vs Gerrard for the managerial job. Should be an interesting fight. 

Oooh no!! I wouldn't wanna see that fight.

 

Would be better to watch them two standing back-to-back fighting the Neville brothers. Like Shane and Joe Starrett against the Ryker brothers.

 

...must get out more.

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I heard

 

Alonso vs Gerrard for the managerial job. Should be an interesting fight.

 

A few people who know better than me have tipped Mascherano to be a top manager.

 

If you believe some of the rumours he has been involved more than most players with tactics for club and country recently.

 

Oh a list of Xabis last managers.

 

Benitez, Pelligrini, Mourinho, Ancelotti and Guardiola. Also a few decent Spanish national managers.

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If there's one thing history shows us it's that being a manager is (I'm sorry to use this term) all about the X factor. No ones knows who has it. The ones you assume will become brilliant disappear into nowhere, and the unknowns become great. A club legend player does not automatically result in a club legend manager.

 

The timing of this is also a bit shite, but I think that's just a bit unfortunate as Gerrard is very clearly a fan of Rodgers.

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The timing of this is also a bit shite, but I think that's just a bit unfortunate as Gerrard is very clearly a fan of Rodgers.

 

Do you think so?  For me he was cautiously reserved in his praise for Rodgers when he left.

 

I look at last season and it played out like a power struggle between the manager and captain.  FSG sided with Rodgers and he won. 

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If there's one thing history shows us it's that being a manager is (I'm sorry to use this term) all about the X factor. No ones knows who has it. The ones you assume will become brilliant disappear into nowhere, and the unknowns become great. A club legend player does not automatically result in a club legend manager.

 

The timing of this is also a bit shite, but I think that's just a bit unfortunate as Gerrard is very clearly a fan of Rodgers.

Agreed. Houllier never played footy yet managed internationally, Alan Shearer got his boyhood heroes relegated. Roy Keane is shite too.

 

Personally I don't see the point in having club legends around as the modern player doesn't give a shite who you are. Look at Giggs at the mancs, there's talk he's already in line to follow van gaal, what a beautiful day that will be, the Kevin Webster looking spaz.

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Gerrard raved about Rodgers saying he wished he'd been his manager earlier in his career and he'd have won loads of titles. Sounded a bit like praise for Rodgers and a dig at Benitez. Sounded like bollocks too.

If he'd been around earlier in his career he'd have no medals but more rental income.

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There would be relentless pressure for him to replace Rodgers from the fans.  It stands to reason that Brendan wanted nothing to do with it.  From FSG's perspective it got one of the highest earners off the books. 

 

 

Brendan didn't want anyone on his staff who've won anything in coaching, let alone players of Carragher or Gerrard's status. He's way too insecure for that. 

 

FWIW I think Carragher and Gerrard would be best cutting their teeth somewhere else if they wanted to get into coaching or management.  there's no point learning from a manager who's still got it all to learn himself. 

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Gerrard raved about Rodgers saying he wished he'd been his manager earlier in his career and he'd have won loads of titles. Sounded a bit like praise for Rodgers and a dig at Benitez. Sounded like bollocks too.

 

Seem to remember him wanting Curbishley appointed when Houllier left too.

I think he likes the sort of Manager who puts their arm round his shoulder when in reality its the managers who have pushed him harder that got the best out of him.

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Do you think so? For me he was cautiously reserved in his praise for Rodgers when he left.

I remember at the start of last season Gerrard saying he wished he'd met Rodgers 10 years earlier, so he seems to rate him above the fella who got him to 2 European Cup Finals. Now of course, it could have been a dig at Benitez, but I'd like to home he's grown up from that.

 

Having said all that, the timing of this could have been a lot better. But it was probably the newpapers decision to print it this week for maximum exposure. And had we beaten West Ham we'd have been going into this game in a hugely positive mood.

 

And the Daily Mail? Our former great players certainly seem to pick utter rags to attach themselves to.

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He had to go. For me, SG is the best player ever to wear the red shirt but he has been well past his best for a couple of seasons (incdg13/14).

 

He inhibited other players when on the pitch - they were happy to give him the ball and the responsibility - and, quite possibly, did the same off the pitch with coaches and managers.

 

It will do him no harm to see what life is like at another Club and will make him a better coach if he decides he wants that career. If he does, and he proves half decent, I'd welcome him back in the future.

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The idea of feeling threatened or intimidated by having Steven Gerrard around is laughable in the context of the Liverpool manager's job. You should crave huge talents and personalities around you and thrive off the dynamic they create rather than shy away from them.

 

Fucking hell, I can't get my head round the idea that some people think Steven would be anything other than a massive positive to the right manager. And if he inhibited other players the problem is that they aren't good enough rather than he's too good surely? That's like throwing away the fillet steak because it'll make your oven chips taste cheap. Insane.

 

Some utterly mind-boggling stuff on here that exemplifies just how far we've fallen into the gaping chasm of mediocrity that is contemporary LFC.

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Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, either way I've seen some reasonable arguments for the opposing view, hardly as mind boggling an opinion as you're making out.

I'm sorry mate, but it is to me. I'm not trying to be a prick. I just cannot see any justification for rejecting world class experience without giving it a try.

 

I totally get that you can try and it not work out - the greatest managers in history nearly all got fired at some stage and great players are sold all the time; it's the not giving it a go I can't comprehend.

 

The will to win exhibited in Istanbul alone would be priceless and that's without everything else he offers. LFC needs more great talents/leaders/men, not less.

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