Gomez and Clyne

[liverpoolsno9]

the amount of promising moves that break down at Clyne is huge. People said Arbeloa was a good defender but shit in the last 3rd, well, he was 10 times better than Clyne in that regard. Clyne is shocking in the last 3rd, if someone came in for him for decent money, sell. Mind, I'd say that for every player in that squad, yes, even Coutinho. I fucking hate the lot of them. And Yeah, I'm still sulking, I bet they're fucking not.

[The Golden Eel]

Yeah, I'm having doubts about Clyne now and am wondering whether Alexander-Arnold could do any worse. He's kind of a nothing player. Not that great defensively and rubbish going forward. I also think he's got a weak mentality.

[3 Stacks]

I really dislike Clyne. Genuinely think he's one of the least technically gifted players in the league. His touch is absolutely woeful.

 

He's a good 1 on 1 defender, he never gets injured and he runs fast but Southampton was about his level.

[Shitty Arse]

Dempsey and Makepiece

[stringvest]

Shit latino remake of a Great Depression romp.

[John101]

I've been duped into thinking he was good going forward. I have no idea where the idea came from, possibly his Southampton days.

 

I couldn't believe it yesterday. He kept finding himself in space and couldn't capitalise on it at all. It was a Kaiser Soze moment as I realised I was wrong.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

TAA should have his place now. Remember an article on here a while back about him being the reliable unsung hero Clyne. He is average, should be no more than a squad player. Unfortunately like a few of our current starters.

[TheHowieLama]

About as good going forward as Steve Finnan or Arbeloa.

[liverpoolsno9]

About as good going forward as Steve Finnan or Arbeloa.

Both of them were much better going forward

[TheHowieLama]

They really weren't - both by memory and stat - they just were not expected to be a regular part of the attack.

[liverpoolsno9]

They really weren't - both by memory and stat - they just were not expected to be a regular part of the attack.

They both were, by my memory, whilst not being particularly good. You mention stat, but both their stats are going to be inferior to that of Clyne (if that is true) as they were not expected to be a regular part of the attack as you say

[TheHowieLama]

Nor should he. 

[lifetime fan]

About as good going forward as Steve Finnan or Arbeloa.

 

Both Finnan and Arbeloa piss all over Clyne defensively and in the final third.

[Jairzinho]

Finnan was a reasonable crosser of the ball, and Arbeloa had a much better touch than Clyne.

 

Do our fullbacks practice stuff like crossing the ball or not twatting it ten yards ahead of themselves when running with the ball?

[aRdja]

Finnan was a reasonable crosser of the ball, and Arbeloa had a much better touch than Clyne.

 

Do our fullbacks practice stuff like crossing the ball or not twatting it ten yards ahead of themselves when running with the ball?

Arbeloa was a very intelligent user of the ball.

[dylstar]

Clyne hasn't been the same player since that sex tape of him was put on the Internet IMO.

[Jairzinho]

Arbeloa was a very intelligent user of the ball.

 

Agreed. Hence having over 50 caps for Spain. 

[TheHowieLama]

Of course he was - smart player. You are supposed to be. Of course attitude like this might have something to do with the reason those two were perceived to be so good in our third:

 

On 17 May 2009, in a match against West Bromwich Albion, Arbeloa was involved in an on-field clash with Liverpool teammate Jamie Carragher – the two had to be separated by Daniel Agger, Xabi Alonso, Emiliano Insúa and Pepe Reina. Carragher later explained that he clashed with Arbeloa as a moment of poor defending from the latter threatened the clean sheet, further explaining "we want to keep a clean sheet and we want Pepe to have a chance of the Golden Glove for the fourth season running"

 

 

On his ball use - Milner makes alot of those same decisions ( especially when comparing him to AA playing at Left back) yet he is perceived as always cutting it back and limiting our options.

 

I can never remember a thread where we dropped points with Finnan, much less Arbeloa, in the team where either were slated for not making decisive contributions in the final third.

That is because there was more quality in the team as a whole so there was no expectation.

 

That said the difference between the fullback play in El Clasico for instance puts the distance between our pair and the top shelf at near immeasurable.

[Funkasy]

You dont play several years for real madrid if your not entertaining in some way.

[TheHowieLama]

Yep - 

 

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Watching our full backs is depressing. Neither can attack or defend.

 

Clyne gets an easy ride because of fuck ups by others, but can be as bad or culpable for goals conceeded. He's been part of a back four that's conceeded shitload of goals.

 

He shits himself every time the ball is played to him. Might as not play the ball to him at all.

 

Wish Klopp would drop him and play TAA for a few games. I can understand playing Milner as there is no one else.

[sir roger]

I think Clyne generally defends quite well, and we seem to get caught out far more often down the left hand side for opposition goals & chances. I have been disappointed by him this season, but in a league where Ryan Bertrand is often considered the best left back !!, I wouldn't go for the knee-jerk  ' get rid ' solution.

 

As for the going forward, he often looks awful, but to be fair 

 

a) Our game is now far more expectant of attacking output from the full backs than when Finnan, Arbeloa etc were in situ &

 

b) It must be very difficult for Clyne & Milner even when they get in good crossing positions, as we have stopped getting bodies into the box lately and have no height, allied to a centre forward scared to head the ball. Exhibit A was yesterday when Clyne put a magnificent cross on Coutinho's head and he actually closed his eyes as he somehow headed it sideways against F***ing Origi rather than scoring.

[VladimirIlyich]

Arbeloa and Finnan chipped in with the odd goal while Clyne looks like he is heading for the Rob Jones and Nigel Spackman club.

[Duff Man]

Arbeloa and Finnan chipped in with the odd goal while Clyne looks like he is heading for the Rob Jones and Nigel Spackman club.

He's scored as many as Finnan.

[skend04]

Clyne is poor going forward. If Klopp's preferred system relies on the fullbacks getting forward then he needs to be binned. He was in yards of space in the first minute on Sunday yet still managed to hit the first defender rather than create a chance. Poor. Very poor.