Islamic Positive Thread

[Funkasy]

Positive impact on the pepper spray business in Germany. 

[Strontium]

Millions?

Oh yeah,its dead easy to speak on behalf of them and know exactly what they think.

 

Did you miss the link to the report a few posts above yours that demonstrated exactly what they think?

 

You seem to believe that when folk talk about beliefs and opinions of the religious, that we're making shit up.

 

No, it's religion's job to make shit up. The rest of us are just trying to deal with the side-effects of these ludicrous and dangerous fairy tales.

[Rico1304]

It depends what the question is. If the question is, for example, "Why do all Muslims support FGM, the murder of gay people and the stoning of adulterers?" then you'd have good reason to call the questioner a bigot.

 

If the question is asked more broadly about why horrible practices continue in the world, then that's not bigoted.

Did you read the link I posted?

[skend04]

Don't bother debating New Atheists. They're not interested in truth because it can help people to be more compassionate, it's all about being able to sneer at another set of people.

New Atheists? Oh yeah that's right. The old ones killed millions so they rebranded sometime after the second world war.

[Paulie Dangerously]

There were some Muslims in the yellow submarine soft play centre yesterday and they were very nice. Even the one in the full veil. Farage's head would've exploded

[Rico1304]

There were some Muslims in the yellow submarine soft play centre yesterday and they were very nice. Even the one in the full veil. Farage's head would've exploded

i wonder if she wanted to wear that veil.

[chris71]

 

Sally James says religion is a load of ol' bollocks.

[Paulie Dangerously]

i wonder if she wanted to wear that veil.

She was with another lady who just wore a head scarf so I presume she did.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Did you read the link I posted?

No.

 

I wasn't replying to anything specific, just that your statement that it's dangerous to call people who ask questions bigots is not an absolute; it depends on what the question is.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

i wonder if she wanted to wear that veil.

There was a good interview on The Daily Show with Dalia Mogahed, an American academic, in which she explained her objection to the suggestion that veils and scarves are a sign of oppression.  Her argument is that to oppress someone is to take away their power; hijabs, etc, are used to dress "modestly", in the sense of concealing one's sexuality.  So, are people who call veils and scarves oppressive saying that a woman's source of power is her sexuality?  Wearing a hijab or whatever doesn't stop a woman from thinking, speaking, writing or any sort of action. It just stops her worrying about bad hair days.

 

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ju44t3/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-dalia-mogahed---understanding-american-muslims-and-the-media-s-coverage-of-terrorism

[Rico1304]

There was a good interview on The Daily Show with Dalia Mogahed, an American academic, in which she explained her objection to the suggestion that veils and scarves are a sign of oppression. Her argument is that to oppress someone is to take away their power; hijabs, etc, are used to dress "modestly", in the sense of concealing one's sexuality. So, are people who call veils and scarves oppressive saying that a woman's source of power is her sexuality? Wearing a hijab or whatever doesn't stop a woman from thinking, speaking, writing or any sort of action. It just stops her worrying about bad hair days.

 

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ju44t3/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-dalia-mogahed---understanding-american-muslims-and-the-media-s-coverage-of-terrorism

An American academic, mmm try Aayan Hirsi Ali or Nice

mangos on Twitter. Get their views.

[skend04]

An American academic, mmm try Aayan Hirsi Ali or Nice mangos on Twitter. Get their views.

A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.

[Rico1304]

A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.

Yes, that's exactly what shes about.

[Rico1304]

A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.

Yes, that's exactly what shes about. Rather than reforming Islam. Fool.

[Stu Monty]

Bigot claiming it's not bigotry shocker.

 

Fuck you. You absolute clown.

[Stu Monty]

Quite surprised at you Stu,making generalisations about 1.1 billion people,you always seem better than that.

 

I suppose somebody,even an atheist in the Middle East,could say you and me support bombing children and hospitals because we keep electing leaders who continue to do this with our perceived backing.

 

I am an atheist too but I cant really condemn all Muslims as I cannot condemn all Christians either.

 

How much clearer can I try and make this? It's genuinely fucking tedious the amount of times I have to do this.

 

People are asked "Do you agree with this terrible thing" in opinion polls and they say "yes" in huge percentages across the world. 

 

I am not condemning "all muslims" I am condemning the millions and millions of muslims (majorities in some countries) that themselves hold those barbaric ideas. How we have gotten to this bizarre place where people will go out of their way to claim that people that hold beliefs don't actually hold those beliefs and that they are being cruelly stereotyped I have no idea. Progressive humanitarians are just putting their fingers in their ears and pretending that a lot of people hold horrible opinions in some misguided belief that it's helping tolerance. 

 

Women are getting stoned to death for being gang raped and it's no biggie. Wake up.

[Rico1304]

A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.[/quote

A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.

 

Although having your best friend shot in cold blood then nearly decapitated in the street with a note pinned his chest addressed to her with ',you're next' might put you on a downer.

[cloggypop]

Theo was pushing it a bit.

[Rico1304]

Theo was pushing it a bit.

Please tell me you aren't saying he asked for it.

[cloggypop]

Please tell me you aren't saying he asked for it.

I found him deliberately inflammatory. Not enough to be slaughtered on the street obviously. The film and his murder didn't exactly help race relations. Geert Wilders has been fanning the flames ever since.

[skend04]

ame="skend04" post="4362414" timestamp="1452434343"]A nut job who asks for mass invasion of Muslim countries by the West. I'm sure that's a real good idea.[/quote

 

Although having your best friend shot in cold blood then nearly decapitated in the street with a note pinned his chest addressed to her with ',you're next' might put you on a downer.

Okay okay, may be nut job is a tad harsh due to her personal experience. But to ask for the entire Muslim world to be mass invaded because of her personal experience is a bit nutty.

[Rico1304]

I found him deliberately inflammatory. Not enough to be slaughtered on the street obviously. The film and his murder didn't exactly help race relations. Geert Wilders has been fanning the flames ever since.

Have you seen the film?

[cloggypop]

Have you seen the film?

It's shit.

 

It wasn't just the film though. He was calling Muslims goat shaggers for a start. What happened to him was shocking but he was a bit of a cunt.

 

https://www.rnw.org/archive/theo-van-gogh-trailblazer-wilders

[Rico1304]

It's shit.

 

It wasn't just the film though. He was calling Muslims goat shaggers for a start. What happened to him was shocking but he was a bit of a cunt.

 

https://www.rnw.org/archive/theo-van-gogh-trailblazer-wilders

There's plenty of cunts, calling someone a goat shagger is well, nothing. On here you get people defending those saying (and meaning it and having the power to do it) they'd kill us all. Now that is fucking weird.

[cloggypop]

I couldn't get why he refused to have any security after receiving death threats. It was only a couple of years after his mate Pim Fortyn (subject of Van Gogh's last film) was murdered.