Diego Costa

[Tyler Durden]

It'll be interesting to see if Suarez goes what may happen.

 

Will all his fee be reinvested? Will the fee we get plus whatever money we should have right now also be spent?

Will we have time to strengthen?

 

I have a feeling it's all going to happen late and absolutely fuck us in the ass as far as the season ahead goes. But in saying that we really are the master of our own destiny on it. If it all happens late and we end up severely weakened for the season ahead its going to be very fucking frustrating.

 

I'm sure we'll find some way to shoot ourselves in the foot through lack of preparation. We've knew he has wanted out so we should have any secondary targets BESIDES Costa lined up or ready to move on.

 

Ill be very surprised though if we don't start the season weakened by the time the window shuts

[TheHowieLama]

Pal - it is a trap. Don't say anything.

 

The Red Sox have been really good this year.

 

Essentially the Sox did over the last 18 months what we did 2 years ago. They overpaid for all the wrong players who came on huge contracts. They got rid at the first chance they could and sent them all to the LA Dodgers.

 

Since then they are good again, but they haven't spent huge. They're 20 games over .500 and they lead their division.

 

Sheesh.

[Barrington Womble]

They're 20 games over .500 and they lead their division.

 

 

Indeed, that makes perfect sense ;-)

[Innova]

Get costa if Suarez goes. I'm pretty sure fsg are smart enough to know that if they don't at least reinvest the money gotten from the Suarez sale then they'll be getting shit in their mailboxes everyday from fans.

 

With the crazy market now I wouldn't mind paying 30m for costa. Or even trading Suarez over for costa + 10m. Rather than him being sold for 40m to arsenal.

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Get costa if Suarez goes. I'm pretty sure fsg are smart enough to know that if they don't at least reinvest the money gotten from the Suarez sale then they'll be getting shit in their mailboxes everyday from fans.

 

With the crazy market now I wouldn't mind paying 30m for costa. Or even trading Suarez over for costa + 10m. Rather than him being sold for 40m to arsenal.

 

Have you ever seen him play?

 

You'll mind once you realise how good he is - that is, nowhere near good enough to replace Suarez.

[Innova]

 

Have you ever seen him play?

 

You'll mind once you realise how good he is - that is' date=' nowhere near good enough to replace Suarez.[/quote']

 

He's not good enough that's for sure. That's why keeping Suarez should be our first priority. But I'll rather take a loss than sell him to one of our rivals in arsenal. It suits his CL ambitions too so he shouldn't be rejecting if that's the reason he's leaving us.

[Gnasher]

I'd wait till christmas and offer 25mil for benteke. Next summer he'll go to spurs or the mancs.

[dennis tooth]

I gave the total spend - which is entirely relevant to the level of player we're getting for our money - and I gave net spend. That's not an unbalanced point of view. If anything, I should have gone even further and mentioned the losses year-on-year, the pay-offs of managers, the releases for new managers, and signing fees and bonuses.

 

What I don't appreciate is you having a little pop at me rather than actually discussing the subject. I'm making a concerted effort to engage with people over the subject and not dish out too much personal abuse (other than to utter mental cases). I gave it a go here.

 

 

 

What do you mean 'fall for it'? I gave a gross and a net for transfer spending. It's not propaganda, it's figures based on what reliable sources say we've paid. I laid it all out for Dennis, all sources with links to the Liverpool Echo. The reason I mention it is because it's what actually happened. I'm not having to ignore things to make my argument.

 

 

 

No it doesn't. I've given the net figure, which is very likely to be much lower than it will be in a few weeks.

 

 

 

You see, you want to have a pop at me but you can't even get the basics right. They've been here three years, and in that time the wage bill has gone from £121m, rose to £135m and then went to £119m (not including big payoffs for all the dross Comolli disposed of), so over there time, using the latest available data, the wage bill has dropped £2m. That £2m needs to accrue. To say it covers the net spend is ridiculous enough, let alone when we're talking about a club which lost £40m last year and they had to lend almost £50m, interest free.

 

We've gone from wages being 65% of turnover, to 73%, down to 70%. United are at just over 50% and they're in the CL. We need to get it down to a sensible level so we actually can accrue some money to spend. Even then, it'll have to happen when we're making a profit and not losing money, otherwise cutting the wage bill provides no funds at all. It certainly hasn't provided any funds to spend yet. That's just how numbers work, it's nothing to do with me painting the owners - who I don't care about, btw - as some sort of charity givers. It's just what has happened, whether your or me or Coro or Dennis like it or not.

 

 

 

Nah, sorry. That's just you adding your own, totally incorrect narrative. I've never made out that they're here as some fluffy, benevolent benefactor. Actually, I've recently said the exact opposite. What I'm not going to do is wilfully ignore how much has been spend just so I can paint them in a certain light. I don't care about them at all, I care about getting an accurate view of what's going on.

 

 

 

Dennis, for goodness sake. I gave you a list, then linked you to the list later the same day. Of course, you didn't respond to any of the points because you

 

 

 

Have you actually got anything to say at all? I mean, anything of worth at all. The numbers I've given are backed up by the Echo. They're all there, in the FSG are cunts thread. They're not my numbers. We'd spent around 86.5m net before this window, and so far we've spent about 3 or 4m over all.

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead, eh? Dont look a gift horse for water in the mouth of the river lest the longen faced one should drop the bone into it when trying to bite the reflection.

 

 

Liverpool announce new £150m kit deal after Adidas row - Telegraph

 

Liverpool FC extend Standard Chartered sponsorship deal - Liverpool Echo

 

Liverpool FC have announced a two-year extension to their main sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered.

 

The initial four-year contract, worth up to £20million per year, expires next summer but the lucrative partnership with the bank will now run until the end of the 2015/16 season.

 

 

BBC News - Liverpool FC signs up Chevrolet as club car sponsor

 

Ian Ayre, managing director of the Anfield club, said the deal demonstrated "the value of Liverpool's international appeal".

 

No financial details have been given about the arrangement.

 

and, interestingly

 

Liverpool could sign sponsorship deal with Qatari firm Ooredoo | Al Bawaba

[Jonjo Baldy]

Another reason not to buy him his a south american striker, if he gets a little bit of success the fame will get to him, his ego grow and he'll start demanding to move to Wigan.

 

Get Darren bent world class striker and 25mil will be good value for him.

[WaltonRed]

I think it says a lot that we are not moving along with the deal till Luis goes so that means we'll be using his money to get him in

 

Not just him mind, we might be out of it but other deals too

[moof]

I think it says a lot that we are not moving along with the deal till Luis goes so that means we'll be using his money to get him in

 

Not just him mind' date=' we might be out of it but other deals too[/quote']

 

How do you know we aren't 'moving along with the deal'?

[WaltonRed]

Well when a player has a minimum fee, its accepted because it has to be so you'd of expected him over for talks and a medical by now?

 

No?

[Trumo]

Well when a player has a minimum fee, its accepted because it has to be so you'd of expected him over for talks and a medical by now?

 

No?

 

You do know the player can reject it or ask for time to think about it don't you? I don't know what - if anything - is happening with regards to Costa, but I'm not jumping the gun either way.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Well when a player has a minimum fee, its accepted because it has to be so you'd of expected him over for talks and a medical by now?

 

No?

 

I'd imagine it has more to do with them being away on tour in South America than anything else.

[ngogswilly]

I'd imagine it has more to do with them being away on tour in South America than anything else.

 

Not that I think it would have any bearing on how the deal is going, but they've been back since Monday I think a few people have mentioned. I'm only going on what other people have said on here though so could be wrong.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Not that I think it would have any bearing on how the deal is going, but they've been back since Monday I think a few people have mentioned. I'm only going on what other people have said on here though so could be wrong.

 

Yeah, I meant the reason it hasn't gone any faster. I'd also imagine they've got a set amount of time to deal with the bid. If we have bid. We might have bid and it might have been rejected, either because it didn't trigger the clause or because the clause isn't valid outside of Spain. Just guessing, of course.

[king7]

There's a lot of talk about the money we (and FSG) should spend, but who we should spend it on? We agreed a fee for the armenian bloke, but he chose Dorrmund. We've bid for Costa, but he doesn't seem too eager to leave Atletico for us. We don't have the pull on top players that we want to. So I wonder, who are these top players we could get in if FSG would "splash the cash"?

[dennis tooth]

Dont blame him, we have lied about bidding but he wont leave them anyway, not for us, why would he??

 

That club have their shit together, we dont.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

we have lied about bidding

 

Is this in your secret documents?

[dennis tooth]

what are you on about 'secret documents'?

 

His own club said it.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

what are you on about 'secret documents'?

 

His own club said it.

 

Yes, but for us to have lied about having bid, we'd have actually had to have said something about having bid. But we didn't.

[James Dean]

Haha. How gullible.

[dennis tooth]

Yes, but for us to have lied about having bid, we'd have actually had to have said something about having bid. But we didn't.

 

They briefed people the lie, to make it look in the press like we have money when we were dependant on the Suarez money, its backfired.

Thats all there is to it.

[stringvest]

They briefed people the lie, to make it look in the press like we have money when we were dependant on the Suarez money, its backfired.

Thats all there is to it.

 

We were all briefed Dennis. Did you not get the invite?

[aRdja]

Dont blame him' date=' we have lied about bidding but he wont leave them anyway, not for us, why would he??

 

That club have their shit together, we dont.[/quote']

 

Cos Liverpool FC are a lot bigger than Atletico Madrid obv.