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Terrible performance but a huge three points. If Huddersfield didn’t have a useless attack led by the worst centre forward in the history of football we probably wouldn’t have gotten anything from this game, but thankfully we managed to take one chance and that was enough for the win. The goal was one of only a handful of moments of quality we produced. Mo took it extremely well with his weaker foot, but it was lazy of BT Sport’s Chris Sutton to give him man of the match, as other than the goal I thought he was well off it once again. Thankfully we aren’t conceding any, because the goals have dried up big time. As pleasing as the three points are, this performance worries me more than anything else we’ve seen this season. The Napoli game was hideous and we never even had a shot, but they’re a decent side and it’s known as not being the easiest place to play. There were other factors that went into that too, things that I’m not sure Klopp went public with but privately he was pissed off about. The grass was too long on the pitch and we weren’t allowed to train on it beforehand. It doesn’t excuse how shite we were, but it makes it easier to dismiss it as nothing to be too concerned about. City wasn’t good either. I think we had one shot on target and barely threatened them at all. But it’s City, they’re the best team in the country and given how poor we were in attack (and that they missed a late pen) that was a great point and again, quite easy to dismiss. We’ve had a brutal run of games recently and come through it relatively unscathed. Huddersfield are terrible though, we should be looking good against them, surely? Ok, the international break muddies the water a little and it’s never easy playing an away fixture off the back of it, but I don’t think that fully explains how poor we were and I don’t think Klopp sees it that way either given how pissed off he clearly was during the game. This was the start of a pretty easy run that should see us again begin to resemble the runaway attacking juggernaut we were last season. Ok, two thirds of the front three were missing and we had Lallana making his his first start since I don’t even know when. I know he’s had at least three bad hairstyles in that period though. At least he’s ditched the gremlin look now. I don’t even know what formation we were playing as Shaqiri and Salah were both playing on the same side of the pitch. I’d say it was more of a 4-4-2 than anything, with Salah in a front two with Sturridge. That’s not a system we’re used to be playing and it wasn’t exactly fluid. So yeah, there were mitigating circumstances. The thing is though, it wasn’t really the first hour or so that concerned me. It wasn’t good, but as I said, with the amount of changes in attack and midfield it was perhaps to be expected. Overall it wasn’t that bad. Mo scored one and wasted a great chance for a second. If he’d taken that (which he should) then we might be talking about a much different performance as the floodgates could have opened. What really left me feeling disheartened was how wasteful we were after Bobby came on. There were three or four great chances to kill them off on the break but . Thats our thing, it’s what we do. At least it’s what we did. Those counter attacks in the last ten or fifteen minutes were a disgrace. Pitiful. The final ball wasn’t even pub standard. Huddersfield were wide open and we had several three v one and three v two situations that didn’t even result in a shot. The worst was when Firmino ignored a completely free Shaqiri and tried to play it to Salah. If he’d played a decent pass it might have still worked out (although chances are Mo would have fluffed his lines anyway) but the ball he played was just staggeringly shit. I have no words for how bad it was. There were other examples too, like when Salah cut inside and passed the ball straight to a defender when trying to find Sturridge. It was almost as though he didn’t see him, but he was stood right there in front of him. How are top players doing things this shit? What’s going on? These are basic things that even players in League Two can do without thinking. Yet we keep seeing these superstar players making a complete Jon Walters of it time and time again. I can’t explain it. Maybe it’s fatigue due to the World Cup and a long season last year. Maybe it’s a lack of confidence. Maybe there is no explanation and it’s just one of those mad things that can happen. I don’t know what it is, but I’m worried now. Of course there is another way of looking at it. Despite not hitting any kind of form we’re level on points with City who have been flying and just blowing teams away. How pissed off would you be if you were City right now? This time last year they were running away with it. They’re playing at an even higher level now but they can’t shake us off even though we’re well below par and just scraping out wins. The reason we’re matching them point for point is because we don’t let goals in. Three in nine, with six clean sheets. We’re defending at an incredibly high level now, but we’ve also had a fair bit of luck too, which helps. We don’t give up many chances but we’ve been fortunate that most of the ones we have allowed have been squandered. Whether it’s Spurs being denied a blatant pen in stoppage time, Mahrez sending a spot kick into orbit or Steve Mouniet failing to capitalise on a rare Van Dijk mistake in this game, we’ve been getting the rub of the green a bit lately, which makes a welcome change. It can’t go on like this indefinitely though. Eventually our luck will run out and City will pull away if we don’t get our act together in attack. I don’t expect next week against Cardiff to be much different to this either, as they aren’t going to let us play and even if they go behind they won’t change how they play. A few weeks ago I was thinking that it would just take one game for everything to click and us to get back to last season’s blistering form. I no longer think that’s the case. The problem runs deeper than that and it’s going to be a process. It might not click until the new year so it’s vital that we keep grinding it out like we have been. You’d have to think that eventually it will come together again because these players are too good to keep playing like this. Last year wasn’t a fluke and it’s only a matter of time before the goals are raining in again. How much time is the big question though, especially with City not looking like they’re going to drop hardly any points. They have some tougher fixtures coming up and we have to hope that the likes of Spurs and United can do something to slow them down. I’d feel a lot more relaxed about the situation if we were playing the way we were last spring, but until that happens we’re going to have to keep leaning on Virgil and the defence. Star man is a tough one. Shaqiri was good when he had the ball but he didn’t have it enough. He needs to stay in the team though, he’s the brightest, most creative spark we have right now. Sturridge did alright too. He didn’t have any chances himself but he kept possession (especially in the closing stages when his experience came to the fore and he slowed things down and helped take the sting out of the game) and he put one on a plate for Salah with a lovely ball over the top. He got through the full game too, which is encouraging. Gomez was solid, the two centre backs were mostly fine (barring one mistake each that they got away with) and I thought Gini was top drawer after coming on at half time. I’ll go with Robbo though I think. Honourable mention to Milner as well for somehow getting out there and playing despite a bad hamstring. What a guy. Team: Alisson; Gomez, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson; Shaqiri, Henderson (Wijnaldum), Milner (Firmino), Lallana (Fabinho); Sturridge, Salah:7 points -
Include a smattering of TLW reviews for each and you're onto a winner ...and there's your title6 points
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Worst. Post. Ever.6 points
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You voted for the Tories in a general election held after the referendum. You did so knowing that the forces driving the party were happy to see the country put on a bus and driven off the cliff edge into a no deal Brexit. Would Labour have enacted Article 50? Yes, they made it clear they'd honour the referendum vote. Would they have had such a shit relationship with the EU? No. Would they have gone into negotiations armed with a sheet of A4 scribbles and a list of totally unrealistic demands? No. Would they happily consider breaking the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland? No. If they couldn't negotiate access to the market and customs union, would they drive the country off a cliff edge into a no deal Brexit? No. Would they be gaily pushing for us to accept the sort of trade agreements that will see the NHS sold off to American health companies? No. Would they be gaily leading us into a future where worker's rights are slashed? No. That you voted Tory because it suited your personal circumstances is perfectly fine. But let us not pretend that you didn't see where they were heading on Brexit when you did so. Maybe you went for the short-term gain option. Again, that's ok. You are looking out for yourself and your family. But don't complain that it's Labour's fault that you made that choice and the consequences that later flow from it. It's just totally dishonest. As for the Russians, how many of the 17 odd million people who voted leave do you think they actually influenced? I'd estimate about a million at best on social media. The vast majority of those people were driven by arguments presented in the press, or other concerns. My mum and dad both voted leave and it had nothing all to do with the Russians. My mum because she was a child during the war, and was concerned about a unified European Army under Germany and felt that's where the EU was headed - she never quite got over those visits to the bomb shelters and hearing the bombs come down. Experiences like that run deep. My dad voted leave because he's a barely concealed racist and didn't like the fact that people weren't speaking English who were sitting at the front of the bus. His concerns were immigration. I suspect many of the 17 million voted out of their own concerns and the illusion of taking back control of our laws and the NHS promise plastered over the side of a bus. I had some terrible arguments with my parents, showed them everything I could find that indicated why it was a bad idea, but in the end they voted how they saw was best for them. Just like you did in the general election. EDIT: Replying to Rico's post, not Section's - who snuck in there before me.6 points
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Anyone calling avocado avo should have one violently inserted sideways into their bumho.5 points
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Let’s be real. Rico voted Tory because he thought Corbyn was going to nationalise his job. His job that he quit 18 months after the election. He bought into the red scare. In short, he’s a fucking idiot. And now he wants Corbyn to save him. Hilarious.5 points
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I find it strange that somebody doesn't even like Klopp as a human being let alone a football manager. We've been spoiled massively since he came to our club as we have over achieved more than we could have imagined. Criticisms are valid when they have a basis,unless you are just a Brexiteer who hates Germans because they stole your Grandad's ration box during WW2.4 points
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First point... ‘I just don’t like him’ is pretty much the definition of irrational. Second point, would you not agree that they’ve had a significantly easier start, thus it’s easier to get goals? Finally, if you’re not happy with the position we are in, with our best, record breaking start, I’d pack it all in. You’re unlikely to ever have any joy from this team.4 points
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aRdja's breakfasts..... "This week, I will be mostly eating breakfast at The Schoolhouse in St John's Hill..."4 points
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It's interesting that all the stuff happening now is the stuff that made a lot of people want to leave in the first place. (1) economic scare stories - check (2) Nick Clegg and jK Rowling telling you you're a retard- Check (3) the poor are turkeys who voted for Christmas- Check (4) we're such a racist country - check Also, if we're talking about misinformation, I wonder what grounds Osborne and Cameron's increasingly desperate scare stories would have provided for a second referendum had they won? This is how I see the current state of play: Both sides had cunts and non cunts with genuine reasons for what they wanted. We're better out than in due to the uncertainty of leaving. The EU isn't what it once was. We're not an inherently racist country, certainly not compared to many in the actual EU. Once again, ZERO lessons have been learned from either the election of trump or the Brexit vote. The reasons behind why the poor and disenfranchised voted the way they did continues to be ignored and they continue to be dismissed as racist simpletons - exactly the reason we're here in the first place.4 points
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£11.50? There has to be a decimal out of place. No way aRdja paid less than £115.00 for that.4 points
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For eleven and a half notes I'd want my sausage cooked, and that's not a euphemism.4 points
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I love how you've hidden this little pearler in amongst the carnage & only Stig seems to have spotted it. What next? 'What angle do you all have your plate at to eat from it?' or 'Do you all use oxygen mainly, for breathing?'.3 points
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I was justifiably banned because I made some racist comments about Mané. I was trying to point out the often nasty subtext of the way people criticise others on here but it came out as being hateful. No problem with the ban.3 points
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I only watched it on the telly (so I'm not a superfan, more a Sky-generation wank-in-a-sock armchair fan) but from what I saw we were weirdly lethargic. That said, apart from them hitting the post from a hit and hoper*, and a ballooned missed chance from an error, we weren't in any trouble either. If I'd have watched Chelsea play that game I'd have called them annoyingly inefficient, sworn at them on MOTD and never thought of it again, so I'm not going to do much different this week. It's been a really strange season. There's legitimate concerns about our form - not our points form, but our "form on the eye" which makes sense given the heights we've scaled in recent seasons. I'm not particularly concerned yet though, given that there's a few legitimate mitigating circumstances in play: We're still integrating a number of new players, with a couple of players back from injuries who aren't properly match fit Our best players came back from the World Cup late We've had a shitcunt of a run of fixtures, with a horrible run against strong teams and most of our games against the dross punctuated by fucking international breaks Our best players aren't in any kind of form We seem to be transitioning style slightly, with more emphasis on solidity (midfielders dropping deeper, only one full back bombing one etc.). I don't know if this is a long-term thing or if it's Klopp's "efficiency mode" - we win a load of games and get the points without having to burn ourselves out in high-octane slugfests We've normally been sluggish under Klopp around this time of year, so I wonder if we're doing more fitness work in training to get the batteries charged for the winter and New Year so there's less time for attacking combinations in training or something Add all of those things together and it probably makes sense that we've been a bit disjointed. There's definite improvement at the back though, which I love, and we're still picking up the points whether we play badly or well (and I've long thought the "play badly and win" phrase is shite - the best teams just don't play badly very often and are so ruthless when they're playing well that those games are of little consequence). We're putting the points on the board and I still feel like there's a Maribor in the pipeline in November, as there was last year. *Evidence that our luck's changing? I'm sick of the number of times we've conceded an absolute worldie, and to rub salt in the wounds, a worldie scored by a player who literally never scores. Jagielka, Delaney and so on.3 points
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"Do you expect me to act, Goldfinger " "Noooo Mr Bond I expect you to die"3 points
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Thanks for trying to clear that up but you missed the point. The thing is, some in here choose to ignore the fact that the superfans often do not just refute the points. What they do is say how dare you have negative views on the team and they insist on everyone having the rose tinted glasses they have on all the time. They like to imply only their views are valid with their tone and condescending comments and when pulled up on it they hide behind oh everyone has rights to an opinion. That's the problem with superfans. Go on being positive all the time even when it's not warranted, nobody cares. At least I don't. But don't imply those who don't think everything is great as the bad guy.3 points
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Dev is bigger than Bond3 points
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Complete with half a dozen of the best comments from here for each one.3 points
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Oh my this thread is hard. I’ll try and say this briefly but it might ramble on. We lost our 7 year old daughter to leukaemia in 2000. She was diagnosed and died within 2 weeks. I’ve no idea how we got through that. Our son had just turned 10 at the time and I guess we kept going for him. I changed jobs after a year because although everyone was very nice I didn’t want to be ‘that lady who daughter died’ Ive had loads of managers in my new job and every time I get a new one I think that’s someone new to tell because I always have the anniversary and her birthday off work. I remember walking down the street a few days later and not understanding why everyone was going about their normal business when my world had collapsed. Anyway today our son has presented us with our first grandchild, a boy so onwards and upwards.3 points
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Sakho is a complete liability. I remember the good old days on here when you weren't allowed to say he was shite3 points
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Had a load of foreign language films and still tempted by a few in my B&W and wild cards but went with one of the most beautifly shot films i have ever seen2 points
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Nothing is ever true unless El Rojo or Paulie confirm it to be true. And that includes life itself.....2 points
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Does everyone cook their sausages before eating them?2 points
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Yes. None of us are pregnant.2 points
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It's very possible to say that a team has played poorly in a few games and not think the team is bad overall. There are people confusing a negative outlook on the future of the team with a few very negative performances. There really doesn't need to be the bullshit of the last few pages because some people can't accept that people will point out that we were bad against Huddersfield and aren't playing that well this season. And CS is in the extreme minority. There's no point in trying to change his mind.2 points
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Just click on it again and it’ll remove it. Dont rep moof though, the pro-establishment tosser.2 points
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Don't ever make lists, makes it worse when you miss out of a pick.2 points
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You’re complaining about other people complaining about other people complaining. I like it.2 points
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I don’t and I’m not, I’m giving an opinion. As I said, I’d pack it in. Me. If breaking records sucks ass, I’d give it up and not bother. Don’t like my opinion? Good. I hope to be the anti-Hades as often as I can. This idea that that if you refute an opinion you are stopping others from having theirs is tedious and ridiculous.2 points
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Something has gone terribly wrong if Lallana is an automatic first choice after we have spent £100m on the midfield in one transfer window.2 points
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Or we could get one point more making goal difference irrelevant. You’re hatred for Klopp is not irrational, It’s unfathomable.2 points
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Stig, yer needed on Twitter. Liam is having a kick off with some Radiohead fans.2 points
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He's be excellent i think, should keep his Scottish accent. I've got no problem with an ethnic bond, I used to think Dev from coronation street would make a good one.2 points
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“ oh woe, the time for reckoning is near my friends. The man from the Black Forest will come and lead us to disaster upon the field of battle. Many victories will be gained but it is all a ruse, the man Klopp is a deceiver, he wants to ruin the Kingdom with his army of Gegenpress. He has cast out the Undead One (Buvac) and now all reason is gone. Doom, Doooooooooom!!! “ You get get the drift.2 points
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I dont want to say too much, but I lost my brother tragically and was not able to follow a natural grieving process on account of it happening 12,000 miles from me at the time, and I was broke with no ability to borrow. Hence I was alone as the family gathered to mourn and get everything sorted. Lost my Dad just over 3 yrs ago and although it has been very painful, the whole process of the experience was more ritualistic - for me, this has been important. I spent much time with him for the 12 months of extreme illness before his passing, & I cared for him during his terminal event which was about a week long. Mum and I organised and prepared the funeral, and we’ve given each other close attention & support in the 3 yrs since. Like I say, it’s helped a heap, whereas in many ways I have still not accepted my Bro’s passing.2 points
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Unlike Usher, I’m perfectly content with my current set of audience.2 points
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Don't ruin my quip mate.2 points
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Sakho is gonna have to paint a whole neighborhood after this outing2 points
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If we're back pretending Lallana can be the creative midfielder we need than it really does make a mockery of this strong squad shite.2 points
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I lost my brother who was also my best mate to cancer in March 2016, 9 months later my mum died of pneumonia, this was while I was going through a messy and prolonged divorce where I lost my house and had to take redundancy from a well paid job to get rid of the debts my ex wife left me with, but the death of my brother was the thing that hit me the hardest, it completely floored me and devastated me, he was like a lion, never once complained about what he was going through, never wished it on anyone else, and was more worried about other people than himself, it broke me having to go and see him while he was dying but I put on a brave face, hid the tears and went in cracking jokes and having a laugh with him, he talked about dying and it fucking almost crucified me when he was talking about it, but i think it was something he had to do, so he never saw me break, he was a Man City fan, since the early 70s when we were kids and with me being Liverpool there was plenty of banter, he died the week after we played City in the league cup final, that was the last game we ever watched together, he was drifting in and out of consciousness due to the drugs but still celebrated when City scored, before he died I wrote him a letter telling him how much I loved him and when it was his time to go he had to say hello to Elvis, John Lennon and Bruce Lee from me, and he said he would but I had to tell him the City scores whenever I went to his grave, which I do. The after affect is awful , like you're drowning and just get your breath back and another wave of grief crashes into you, I have no idea how I got through it, there's books that I read in the weeks and months after, and films I watched that I have no recollection of, I should have had counselling but I had no idea that it existed, time heals but every so often a song or a memory sneaks up and slaps you in the face, I must be made of stern stuff as I know of a couple of people that have committed suicide in my town just cos they split up from their wives/girlfriends.2 points
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Thanks everyone, for your concern and for your stories of your own losses and of how you've each managed your own grief. I should say that I'm sound btw, haven't suffered any loss or bereavement recently, but I did watch a film about loss the other night, and that prompted my post. The film was Peter Jackson's The Lovely Bones, and it really struck me about how in grief, how there are no rules, no right or wrong, how grieving is such an intensely personal and individual thing. My nan dies in the June of 1999 and it hit me like a ton of bricks. After both my mother and my dad had (for different reasons) fucked off and left both me and my younger brother, it was my elderly maternal grandmother whooo gladly filled the vacuum and stepped in to bring us both up. Had she not done so, then we would have both been shipped off to some children's home. As I watched that film though, my grief for my nan really struck me. I have missed her for every single day of the past 20 years, but rarely if ever have I ever spoken of my grief, my pain and sorrow to anyone. This cannot be healthy. Perhaps I should and maybe it's important for me to do so. Maybe this thread is the beginning of my catharsis and of a recovery of sorts. In many respects I'm a very typical fella; I drink too much, bottle stuff up, repress my feelings, live in denial, put a brave face on, soldier on, and generally be an arsehole. After 20 odd years, maybe it's time to grasp thhe nettle, man up and sort my shit out? Maybe. Thanks to eveyone who's taken the time to reply to my OP, many of your posts have been both touching and moving. Much love back at ya.2 points
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I lost my Dad in may and it’s still not sunk in. I still think to myself that ‘I can’t wait to tell my dad that?’ and then I remember he’s not here anymore. It still doesn’t feel real. Its an awful thing and my mum and sisters are still having a bad time. Watching that champions league final 3 weeks after he died was horrendous. It was horrible and the first time I properly broke down. Didn’t help that I was in a pub with a few of my mates. everyone deals with it in completely different ways but I love talking about him and end up in fits of laughter telling some of our stories. I think I’ve been lucky in the way it hit me.2 points
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My wife and I lost the younger of our twin boys shortly before their 1st birthday. 22 years ago on the 27th of this month. I had just turned 25 and the Mrs was 21. It changed both of us so profoundly that I doubt we know who either of us might have been. Probably amazing that we are still together. Guess love makes us stronger hey.2 points
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Cheers for replies. X-Rays came back all clear so ourselves and the bank balance had a sigh of relief. She's called Tash and is only 2yrs old and the girls are already saying we may rename her Popeye. Hopefully picking her up today but should i be wary of her needs now or will she adapt naturally.2 points
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Outstanding. Some girl I used to work with her fella worked in web design and was called a 'front end Dev' and I used to have visions of loads of Devs all sat there in the office making noises. "Gina gzzzzzzzzz hmmmmmmm."1 point
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Not for the goal anyway1 point
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Where I work makes me laugh. We have all these national mental health days and awareness sessions as well as mindfulness meetings. All well and good and looks like a caring employer. But then we get a shite below inflation pay rise and each year the management chip away at your employment rights. Any type of thing they don't legally have to give you they will take from you and make the workplace as difficult as possible. People have anxiety over money problems and worry about taking sick days when genuinely Ill and no amount of sitting round in a tick box exercise group will stop that.1 point
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Can we drop this 'joint top' bollocks, we're 2nd on goal difference. Great place to be at this point in the season but still 2nd. If the season ends with us on the same points as City but an inferior goal difference we won't be 'joint winners'.1 point
