Cameron: "Cuts will change our way of life"

[Sugar Ape]

Neil G, I notice you are reading this thread now. I know you have said you haven't the time to post on here of late, but I would be interested to see your opinions on the current political situation.

 

You have always, in my opinion, been a reasoned and insightful poster and hopefully you will make a contribution to this thread?

[KopOut]

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[Section_31]

Saw this the other day and actually laughed at the brass balls of the cunts. Don't create jobs, no, ask them to work for nothing at all. How long before this becomes compulsory I wonder? Get the fuckers building some pyramids while you're at it.

 

The Government has unveiled plans to offer training and volunteering opportunities to unemployed people in a bid to boost their chances of finding work.

 

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith announced that advisers from youth charity The Prince's Trust and other local government voluntary organisations will be located in Jobcentre Plus offices to help jobseekers of all ages find a volunteering or training place.

 

Ministers said the initiative will particularly benefit young people, adding that the Government was keen to strengthen partnerships with the voluntary sector to help disadvantaged groups and communities.

 

Mr Duncan Smith said: "I am delighted that this partnership with The Prince's Trust and local voluntary sector organisations across the country will mean thousands of volunteering opportunities for jobseekers - for some it will be a chance to get some valuable experience and gain skills after years without work.

 

"I have long been a vocal advocate of empowering grass roots organisations, as I believe they have the dedication, experience and specialist knowledge to get Britain working again."

 

Martina Milburn, chief executive of The Prince's Trust, said: "With youth unemployment at a record high, it is now more important than ever to help young people into jobs. This partnership will help us reach thousands more disadvantaged young people, giving them the skills and confidence to break out of long-term unemployment and poverty.

 

"Transforming these young lives will have a huge impact on their families and communities as well as on Britain's economy."

 

Julia Dennis, Citizens Advice Volunteer Development Manager, said: "Volunteering is hugely important to the Citizens Advice service - we have over 21,000 volunteers in bureaux throughout England and Wales providing vital services to our clients.

 

"We welcome any initiative which supports best practice in volunteer recruitment and are pleased to support Jobcentre Plus's new scheme which will introduce many more people to the benefits of volunteering."

 

Youth unemployment jumped by 32,000 to 951,000 in the three months to November, the highest since records began in 1992, according to the latest figures, which showed that the UK's jobless total is 2.5 million.

 

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

It's what a lot of people on the right want, Sec. They want to see these 'scum' who have the cheek to take 'their' wages to do a full week of work for their benefit. I bet you that Stronts, even if he doesn't admit it now, doesn't think it's a bad idea to make it happen.

 

Even if he doesn't, there is plenty of people who do want it. It's thoughtless, just like the current government. Lest we forget his desire for a compulsory youth national service.

[Section_31]

It's what a lot of people on the right want, Sec. They want to see these 'scum' who have the cheek to take 'their' wages to do a full week of work for their benefit. I bet you that Stronts, even if he doesn't admit it now, doesn't think it's a bad idea to make it happen.

 

Even if he doesn't, there is plenty of people who do want it. It's thoughtless, just like the current government. Lest we forget his desire for a compulsory youth national service.

 

What worries and annoys me the most, is that this Government and their tendrils have all the vestiges of a traditional right-wing movement, but unlike those that have gone before, they have no genuine vested interest in the safety, security, or future prosperity of this nation. They belong to an international class of people who can move their wealth around, and who exist within a web of personal contacts that ensures they will never, ever reap the whirlwind from their bad decisions.

 

They're like a shit step father who throws a toy at you and expects you to go and sit in the corner and play while he watches the telly - and if you cry, he doesn't care.

[dennis tooth]

They need jobs, never mind trying to distract them with sleight of hand 'volunteering opportunities', get on with creating them jobs you promised, surprised theres anyone left to volunteer with all the new prosperous work out there brought on by the genius cuts to the public sector.

Don't need the government to tell me I can now volunteer, I can volunteer myself to stay at home and look after the sofa, make sure none of the other jobless scroungers break in and steal it. Now pass the remote!

[Ginny]

There's loads of jobs. Any able bodied lad in his 20's who hasn't got a job and is crying that there isn't any is a lazy fucking mummies boy cunt. FACT! youknow it and everyone on here knows it. Get a grip you spineless maggots.

[Mr T]

Decent idea. Create the pathways for the long term unemployed to get a bit of experience, get used to the routine and rigours of working and give something back to the community. What's not to like?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

What worries and annoys me the most, is that this Government and their tendrils have all the vestiges of a traditional right-wing movement, but unlike those that have gone before, they have no genuine vested interest in the safety, security, or future prosperity of this nation. They belong to an international class of people who can move their wealth around, and who exist within a web of personal contacts that ensures they will never, ever reap the whirlwind from their bad decisions.

 

They're like a shit step father who throws a toy at you and expects you to go and sit in the corner and play while he watches the telly - and if you cry, he doesn't care.

 

Yeah, I completely agree. After slashing their way into hell - at least for a great many people - they'll have a lovely little Blair-like number somewhere. In a world where you can help slaughter many hundreds of thousands of people and then become 'peace' envoy, anything is possible and I dread to think how much cash Cameron and Osbourne will make in a few years.

 

All's fair in cash and war, I guess.

[dennis tooth]

There's loads of jobs. Any able bodied lad in his 20's who hasn't got a job and is crying that there isn't any is a lazy fucking mummies boy cunt. FACT! youknow it and everyone on here knows it. Get a grip you spineless maggots.

 

Theres no jobs mate, it is a fact that there are jobs out there but misleading when every single job has about 1,500 people getting interviewed for it.

[Ginny]

Theres no jobs mate, it is a fact that there are jobs out there but misleading when every single job has about 1,500 people getting interviewed for it.

 

Go to interviews until you get one then.

[Section_31]

Decent idea. Create the pathways for the long term unemployed to get a bit of experience, get used to the routine and rigours of working and give something back to the community. What's not to like?

 

It's not been done with that in mind though, it's been done because they knew they were about to put millions of people - especially young people - out of work, and so wanted a way to keep them occupied, out of 'trouble' perhaps, and performing some kind of function that borders on slave labour.

 

They're burning through the public sector, and making it so a lot of people won't be able to go to college and university, and this is their solution - to get you painting fences and shifting rubbish for nothing.

 

That's how the Tories roll though, before the miners' strike Thatcher upped the wages of the police force and the army and made sure there was a stockpile of coal ready, then she instructed MI5 to plant agents in the union and then unleashed her quest for middle class lebensraum.

 

That's exactly what they've done again. They've changed the welfare state, making it easier to basically use it as a stick to beat and threaten you with, then - once that was ready - they went to work. Jobs axed, college courses axed, and then they have shit like this waiting for you - like some kind of fucking social Sarlacc Pit. They knew they were sending millions there, so instead of brainstorming ways of getting them back into work - they just devised a way to press them into unpaid labour instead.

 

I think every person who's forced to do this shite should insist on being handcuffed to an MP's kid while they graft.

 

"All the jobs and colleges places are gone, pull up! All craft pull up!"

 

"Admiral, we have universal credit and volunteering programmes!"

 

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[lifetime fan]

Go to interviews until you get one then.

 

Get on a push bike yeah?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Go to interviews until you get one then.

 

Your two posts have been woefully ignorant of the situation, and of the wider reality. You could, quite literally, be going to interviews for the rest of your life at that rate. Calling the jobless 'lazy fucking mummies [sic] boy cunts' is pretty ridiculous.

[Stu Monty]

Decent idea. Create the pathways for the long term unemployed to get a bit of experience, get used to the routine and rigours of working and give something back to the community. What's not to like?

 

The idea that you lay off the public sector and then hope that the people you have laid off will do it for free?

 

When the effects of the fact that there are not enough jobs in this country, and no real effort going into creating them, fully impact this island, it is going to be like a fucking wrecking ball.

 

And they won't give a fuck, Project Land Grab will have been achieved and they'll be heroes.

[Section_31]

Another example of how fucking shit the Tories are. Our local authority is having to slash 120 jobs to save cash, and have had to merge its child protection department with a neighbouring council - a Tory council - that new department will be headed by a private sector consultant being paid £1,100 a day.

 

Therein lies Tory logic. Slash the 'wasteful' state workers, and bring in the private sector becaus it's more 'organised' and 'dynamic', when in actual fact what happens is you lay 100 mothers with kids off and hire some bespectacled cunt and pay him well over the odds while services go to shit.

 

I fucking hate the Tories, they are the most disgusting thing about this country - I hate them, and everything and everybody they represent. Gladly, the middle and upper-middle classes who are their rank and file will soon suffer for the choices they've made, it will not be the working class like last time - because there is no working class left - just a mass of polytechnic educated morons who 'fell into' jobs like teaching and the police, hated Brown because he couldn't foxtrot and tango, and now are about to lose their overpriced homes. When it all goes tits up, the Tory elite will merely withdraw to Dubai to work for their dads' publishing houses. And I will laugh.

 

Fuck them - let them burn.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Another example of how fucking shit the Tories are. Our local authority is having to slash 120 jobs to save cash, and have had to merge its child protection department with a neighbouring council - a Tory council - that new department will be headed by a private sector consultant being paid £1,100 a day.

 

Therein lies Tory logic. Slash the 'wasteful' state workers, and bring in the private sector becaus it's more 'organised' and 'dynamic', when in actual fact what happens is you lay 100 mothers with kids off and hire some bespectacled cunt and pay him well over the odds while services go to shit.

 

I fucking hate the Tories, they are the most disgusting thing about this country - I hate them, and everything and everybody they represent. Gladly, the middle and upper-middle classes who are their rank and file will soon suffer for the choices they've made, it will not be the working class like last time - because there is no working class left - just a mass of polytechnic educated morons who 'fell into' jobs like teaching and the police, hated Brown because he couldn't foxtrot and tango, and now are about to lose their overpriced homes. When it all goes tits up, the Tory elite will merely withdraw to Dubai to work for their dads' publishing houses. And I will laugh.

 

Fuck them - let them burn.

 

Loving that rant, to be honest. I dislike the Liberal Democrats for forgoing what they believe and for allowing the Conservatives to do what they like, but I despise what the Conservatives actually believe. Other than a few things, I always have.

 

I dislike some of the things Labour have done, but it's when they get closer to the Conservatives that their worst side has played out. Yet you have people like Stronts who Hate Labour, but have happily shacked up with the very worst of 'New' Labour. Mental.

[Mr T]

"Lay off the public sector". Shit, the whole public sector? I guess we can never have enough volunteers pricing up toast racks in Oxfam and one eyed children's toys in Scope.

 

I can't take you seriously Stu Monty. The constant hyperbole, the anger, the self-rightousness. It would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

"Lay off the public sector". Shit, the whole public sector?

 

In some places, that'll be almost true. The majority of workers in some areas are employed in the public sector and nearly all of them will lose their jobs.

 

Of course, the private sector will pick up the slack. Can't wait to see that.

[Stu Monty]

"Lay off the public sector". Shit, the whole public sector? I guess we can never have enough volunteers pricing up toast racks in Oxfam and one eyed children's toys in Scope.

 

I can't take you seriously Stu Monty. The constant hyperbole, the anger, the self-rightousness. It would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

 

I'll live with that. Just.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Stu or Sec., will either of you be going to the anti-cut demo on 26th March? Might be up for a swift half a shandy with lime cordial in it if you're about?

[Mr T]

Another example of how fucking shit the Tories are. Our local authority is having to slash 120 jobs to save cash, and have had to merge its child protection department with a neighbouring council - a Tory council - that new department will be headed by a private sector consultant being paid £1,100 a day.

 

Therein lies Tory logic. Slash the 'wasteful' state workers, and bring in the private sector becaus it's more 'organised' and 'dynamic', when in actual fact what happens is you lay 100 mothers with kids off and hire some bespectacled cunt and pay him well over the odds while services go to shit.

 

I fucking hate the Tories, they are the most disgusting thing about this country - I hate them, and everything and everybody they represent. Gladly, the middle and upper-middle classes who are their rank and file will soon suffer for the choices they've made, it will not be the working class like last time - because there is no working class left - just a mass of polytechnic educated morons who 'fell into' jobs like teaching and the police, hated Brown because he couldn't foxtrot and tango, and now are about to lose their overpriced homes. When it all goes tits up, the Tory elite will merely withdraw to Dubai to work for their dads' publishing houses. And I will laugh.

 

Fuck them - let them burn.

 

So you hate the upper class (presumably), the middle class and the scum who had ideas above their station and started teaching despite being morons who got degrees from polytechnics - the cheek. Who don't you hate?

[Section_31]

"Lay off the public sector". Shit, the whole public sector? I guess we can never have enough volunteers pricing up toast racks in Oxfam and one eyed children's toys in Scope.

 

I can't take you seriously Stu Monty. The constant hyperbole, the anger, the self-rightousness. It would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

 

In all honesty, what is wrong with a big public sector if it keeps people working and able to buy consumer products, homes, cars, go out to pubs and enjoy meals out - you know - the private sector.

 

The private sector is global and increasingly no longer needs people. People are not part of its equation, only the bottom line. When HMV goes tits up in favour of online shopping, and those automated checkouts in Morrisons and Tesco replace the checkout girls, what happens then?

 

Quite simply - and this is a genuine question I'd like to hear your solution to - what does the country do with the millions and millions of people it no longer has any use for?

[dennis tooth]

Go to interviews until you get one then.

 

I've got one so no thanks.

 

I make my own fun.

 

I'll never sign on anyway, it's much easier/better to sell drugs and I jail well, you'll see me in prison before you see my in a job centre among the army recruitment cannon fodder.

[Section_31]

So you hate the upper class (presumably), the middle class and the scum who had ideas above their station and started teaching despite being morons who got degrees from polytechnics - the cheek. Who don't you hate?

 

I think you're being deliberately obtuse now because I know from past discussions that you're an extremely sharp lad, I don't know why - maybe you're bored, but you know what and who my post was aimed at.