Russia v Ukraine

[Jose Jones]

4 minutes ago, SasaS said:

You mean, you are actually struggling with simple information such as VSRF counterattacked  the ZSU with 3 additional MBGs staffed with BARS1 and BARS2 and consisting of 17 MBTs, some BMPs and a company of IFVs and APCs, allowing the VDV to take control of the P-68 without employing the full force of the CAA and without having any fully functioning UAVs?

That would be an ecumenical matter.

[TheHowieLama]

We got the big girl back, straight swap for the arms dealer.

[SasaS]

That's a good deal for the Russians.

[TheHowieLama]

47 minutes ago, SasaS said:

That's a good deal for the Russians.

Nah, he might have a good shot in him but he can't rebound worth shit.

[Red Phoenix]

5 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

We got the big girl back, straight swap for the arms dealer.

 

Great to know she's released, nobody should have to go through that shite just because they had a bit of weed on them.

[polymerpunkah]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63911895

 

They actually had an exchange on the airport tarmac.

 

As if they were afraid one of them at the last second was going to refuse to keep up their end of the deal.

 

These are two of the three nuclear super-powers acting like a pair of third-graders swapping toys on the playground.

 

Bodes well for any potential Ukrainian peace negotiation.

[Section_31]

Is Griner transgender or just an absolute unit?

[TheHowieLama]

One big girl I think.

[John102]

 

Famously said she would bear DeMarcus Cousins 1 on 1 too.

[SasaS]

9 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63911895

 

They actually had an exchange on the airport tarmac.

 

As if they were afraid one of them at the last second was going to refuse to keep up their end of the deal.

 

These are two of the three nuclear super-powers acting like a pair of third-graders swapping toys on the playground.

 

Bodes well for any potential Ukrainian peace negotiation.

 

Maybe it was an homage to the cold war spy exchanges?

[SasaS]

Number of open source confirmed Russian deaths in Ukraine has reached 10,000 says BBC Russia (in Russian).

 

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-63917502

 

As reported (in English) by

 

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-9

[Section_31]

Surprised it's not far more.

[SasaS]

40 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Surprised it's not far more.

 

That is only names they could find.

 

DNR updated its figures on December 2, they are now at 3,988 killed, 16,855 wounded.

[SasaS]

A very interesting interview with a Ukrainian army officer for those who willing to go deeper, on Russian tactics around Bakhmut, difference to May / June, casualties, where do the army veterane see the war ending, war fatigue etc. English subtitles.

 

There are also new updates from Tom Cooper.

 

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-12-december-2022-52037ae30a06

 

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-12-december-2022-the-bakhmut-paper-e921301689f0

 

 

[neko]

2 hours ago, SasaS said:

A very interesting interview with a Ukrainian army officer for those who willing to go deeper, on Russian tactics around Bakhmut, difference to May / June, casualties, where do the army veterane see the war ending, war fatigue etc. English subtitles.

 

There are also new updates from Tom Cooper.

 

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-12-december-2022-52037ae30a06

 

https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukraine-war-12-december-2022-the-bakhmut-paper-e921301689f0

 

 

 

I've got some spare time today. I'm 15 minutes into that video, and it's fantastic to listen to (read)

 

Thanks for that.

 

edit: he's a cool cat, that Arty.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Is he talking about attacking sites in Russia? Or is Russia launching drones from occupied areas of Ukraine?

 PS 

Ever notice how shithouse chickenhawks use gung-ho Hollywood language like "take out"?

[SasaS]

I think both. And he isn't wrong.

 

They should receive longer range HIMARS and other missiles so they can hit controlling stations for Iran-supplied drones and such and the ban on hitting targets in Russia with western supplied weapons should be lifted. It serves no purpose any more.

 

There is a widespread misconception, mainly in the West, that there should not be an "escalation", as if Russia would not escalate if it could. Force and power is the only thing they respect. They would never start a war with a stronger opponent, that is why there would never be a nuclear response. If Ukraine had tools to respond "taking out" electricity, heating and water supply in western Russia the way Russia is doing to Ukraine, Russia would stop it within 24 hours.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

He’s taking the absolute piss this fella.
 

[Ne Moe Imya]

Why do you say that?

I would say the most important part of his job right now is to ensure that Western support continues. At this point, the Ukrainians are totally dependent on Western (mostly American) arms deliveries. If they continue, then Ukraine will inevitably be able to force Russia to retreat to at least the pre-Feb lines eventually.

 

If they don't continue, if the West falters and then pushes them to negotiate from a position of weakness, then a lot of Ukrainians are going to be tortured to death in basements as Russia continues to hold sway over their territory.

 

So, when you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense for Zelensky to be going on American talk shows. Because sure, the people that follow things are going to be supportive of the Ukrainians, but if the likes of Tucker Carlson can get the "average American" to be tired of sending weapons to them then it can all end pretty quickly. And so I'm sure his staffers are well aware of that and putting him on television screens across the USA is aimed at preventing that from happening.

[TheHowieLama]

[Skidfingers McGonical]

7 hours ago, Ne Moe Imya said:

Why do you say that?

I would say the most important part of his job right now is to ensure that Western support continues. At this point, the Ukrainians are totally dependent on Western (mostly American) arms deliveries. If they continue, then Ukraine will inevitably be able to force Russia to retreat to at least the pre-Feb lines eventually.

 

If they don't continue, if the West falters and then pushes them to negotiate from a position of weakness, then a lot of Ukrainians are going to be tortured to death in basements as Russia continues to hold sway over their territory.

 

So, when you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense for Zelensky to be going on American talk shows. Because sure, the people that follow things are going to be supportive of the Ukrainians, but if the likes of Tucker Carlson can get the "average American" to be tired of sending weapons to them then it can all end pretty quickly. And so I'm sure his staffers are well aware of that and putting him on television screens across the USA is aimed at preventing that from happening.

 

He’s building a brand. 
 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

7 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

 

 

Wouldn’t use Time Magazine Man of The Year as barometer for anything considering some of their last selections. 

[Rico1304]

BBC reporting that the US is sending the Patriot missile system to Ukraine. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

 

 

 

Wouldn’t use Time Magazine Man of The Year as barometer for anything considering some of their last selections. 

I think they select the person they consider has had most influence on the news, rather than the one they think is best.

[redinblack]

2 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

 

 

 

Wouldn’t use Time Magazine Man of The Year as barometer for anything considering some of their last selections. 

The Trump one was debunked as a fake, had it done himself. Cant say about the others.