Georginio Wijnaldum

[Babb'sBurstNad]

1 hour ago, No2 said:

I absolutely guarantee you if Gini had a time machine he's accepting the offer we put in front of him.

Nah, if Gini had a time machine he's going back and pulling Marilyn Monroe, the handsome bastard.

[stringvest]

the man's getting paid very handsomely.  He wouldn't come back here for less money, and no real chance of getting a game if Thiago, Fab and Jones/Elliot are fit.  He might not even get in ahead of Henderson.

[Guest Alex_K]

3 hours ago, No2 said:

I absolutely guarantee you if Gini had a time machine he's accepting the offer we put in front of him.

Maybe, maybe not. I don’t know the difference in offers. Multi million more at his age is tempting.

[Guest Alex_K]

3 hours ago, No2 said:

I absolutely guarantee you if Gini had a time machine he's accepting the offer we put in front of him.

Maybe, maybe not. I don’t know the difference in offers. Multi million more at his age is tempting.

[Guest Alex_K]

3 hours ago, No2 said:

I absolutely guarantee you if Gini had a time machine he's accepting the offer we put in front of him.

Maybe, maybe not. I don’t know the difference in offers. Multi million more at his age is tempting.

[Guest Alex_K]

3 hours ago, No2 said:

I absolutely guarantee you if Gini had a time machine he's accepting the offer we put in front of him.

Maybe, maybe not. I don’t know the difference in offers. Multi million more at his age is tempting.

[VladimirIlyich]

I heard you the first time Alex.

[m0e]

9 hours ago, Boss said:

 

He scored 11 goals with 5 assists playing in midfield for a relegated side, including scoring 4 goals in one game. He won Dutch player of the year before he even came to England. He was hardly a non-entity.

He scored in 6 games from 30 odd. He was their main man.

 

The fact he found himself  at Newcastle is testament to how he was viewed by others.

 

The fact Klopp bought him to play a position that has nothing to do with what he did at Newcastle is testament to how we viewed him too.

 

We made him.

[3 Stacks]

8 hours ago, Boss said:

I didn't say he played centre midfield. I said he played as a midfielder. Left midfield, right midfield, centre midfield, attacking midfield - all midfield roles. 

Then you should have clarified. "In midfield" usually implies central midfield. He was basically the second most attacking player on the pitch for them. That's much different than what he did here and explains his stats for Newcastle. 

[3 Stacks]

8 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

So you're saying central midfield wasn't his natural position?

Hehe. Could you imagine if it was? He'd have achieved twice as much here. 

[El Rojo]

He moved on and it's rarely wise to go back in situations like this. 

 

I still think we'd be much closer to Manchester City in the league if he'd been available this season.

 

Anyway, we need to be finding the new Wijnaldum/Henderson/Milner/Thiago over the next three or four windows given the age profile. 

[dockers_strike]

I liked Gini, he was a good player but not the stellar player many seem to think he was. I would have liked him to stay and sign the contract but he decided not to and move on.

 

So we and I have. I think he'd still play in Jurgen's team, whether he'd play as often as he did is open to debate.

[Boss]

28 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Then you should have clarified. "In midfield" usually implies central midfield. He was basically the second most attacking player on the pitch for them. That's much different than what he did here and explains his stats for Newcastle. 

 

I didn't need to clarify anything. You misinterpreted what I said and thought I said central midfield, when I didn't. He played left midfield and attacking midfield for most of the season. Either way, the point wasn't even about that. It was about the fact that he wasn't a nobody before Klopp got hold of him. He was brilliant for PSV and he had a standout season for Newcastle.

[3 Stacks]

18 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

I didn't need to clarify anything. You misinterpreted what I said and thought I said central midfield, when I didn't. He played left midfield and attacking midfield for most of the season. Either way, the point wasn't even about that. It was about the fact that he wasn't a nobody before Klopp got hold of him. He was brilliant for PSV and he had a standout season for Newcastle.

I'd qualify playing as a #10 and on the left as "attacking midfield" for clarity's sake, but suit yourself. Because everyone knows that's mostly what he was at Newcastle, not "a midfielder". 

[Boss]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

I'd qualify playing as a #10 and on the left as "attacking midfield" for clarity's sake, but suit yourself. Because everyone knows that's mostly what he was at Newcastle, not "a midfielder". 

 

I understand what you mean and I'm sure you understand what I meant by it too. It's not something we should be arguing about.

[3 Stacks]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

I understand what you mean and I'm sure you understand what I meant by it too. It's not something we should be arguing about.

Honestly, I think you tried to oversell him as a player a bit, just as I'm trying to undersell him a bit. It's just passive aggressive internet jostling. 

[Boss]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

Honestly, I think you tried to oversell him as a player a bit, just as I'm trying to undersell him a bit. It's just passive aggressive internet jostling. 

 

No worries mate. I can see the truth in that.

[aRdja]

12 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

Then you should have clarified. "In midfield" usually implies central midfield. He was basically the second most attacking player on the pitch for them. That's much different than what he did here and explains his stats for Newcastle. 

You’ve changed your tune. This is what I was trying to explain to you 6 years ago when we signed him. 

[aRdja]

20 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

So you're saying central midfield wasn't his natural position?

Touché. It’s become a bit of a meme, but it’s the truth. He was a predominantly attacking player. 

[3 Stacks]

34 minutes ago, aRdja said:

You’ve changed your tune. This is what I was trying to explain to you 6 years ago when we signed him. 

Haha, not so fast, bud. I said he could play in midfield at Liverpool at the time because he had at PSV and for Holland. At Newcastle, he played further forward, we knew this. 

 

Odd way of you to interpret a completely correct argument I had in retrospect, but that's fine. 

[Jose Jones]

2 hours ago, aRdja said:

Touché. It’s become a bit of a meme, but it’s the truth. He was a predominantly attacking player. 

I was just pissing about really mate.  I had a look at the first few pages of the thread, just for fun, and it turns out I was similar to you in asking for a more controlling, playmaker midfielder as well at the time we signed him.

[cloggypop]

3 hours ago, aRdja said:

You’ve changed your tune. This is what I was trying to explain to you 6 years ago when we signed him. 

You were wrong then and you're wrong now. 

 

 

[Guest]

18 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I heard you the first time Alex.

I read each post thinking they were different. Then had a feeling of deja vu, a glitch in the Matrix.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, aRdja said:

You’ve changed your tune. This is what I was trying to explain to you 6 years ago when we signed him. 

Turns out @aRdja does have a time machine. 

[Anubis]

Confirmed that he’s definitely been cut from PSG’s CL squad. No doubt Messi had a quiet word in Chubby Hamster’s ear in revenge for his humiliation at Anfield.