Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[skend04]

11 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I don’t think this is the case.

I believe it applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

It applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

I don’t think thats right Skend. The wording of the act is very specific especially on dates.

[M_B]

Even if it doesn't they could just pass another one.

 

An election is probably the best chance of resolving the issue one way or another. This deal isn't going to get through Parliament without DUP support.

 

 

[Sugar Ape]

2 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I believe it applies until a deal is agreed by parliament.

It only relates to an extension until the end of January 2020 doesn’t it?

 

No parliament can bind a future parliament. If they pass the extension until January and then have an election, which the Tories win, they can do whatever they like. Take us out with a no deal straight away if they want to and have a majority 

[skend04]

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/benn-act

 

5. The Act requires the secretary of state to publish further reports every 28 calendar days from 7 February 2020 until the UK reaches a deal with the EU – or the House of Commons decides it doesn’t need to.

 

It pretty much prevents a No Deal in this parliament for sure. But as Sugar says a new government could do away with it. If they have the numbers to repeal the act.

[M_B]

I see the threats are out again. It's the old Hungary veto one. Anything to get the deal over the line on Saturday.

[skend04]

Apparently DUP now on board.

[Captain Turdseye]

 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

I think it will go through. The Tory defects and the Kinnock-led faction of the Labour Party will vote for it. 

[skend04]

10 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Apparently DUP now on board.

Scratch that. DUP still against it. All very Trumpian this, I'm assuming that BoJo and EU are trying to bounce them into agreeing it.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

It seems that this deal is being rushed through with very little time to scrutinise it. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

(Not my work)

 

Apparently Dolly Johnson has been begging the DUP all morning. 

 

Alene, Alene, Arlene, ARLENE,

I'm begging on you please don't break my plan

 

 

[RobbieOR]

That doesn't have the numbers to get through surely. 

[cloggypop]

Look where the capo is. Thick cunt. 

[ZonkoVille77]

The DUP might settle for cheques at the border.

[M_B]

33 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I think it will go through. The Tory defects and the Kinnock-led faction of the Labour Party will vote for it. 

Its going to be close. The DUP and most of the opposition will vote against if the DUP don't support it.

 

But between now and Saturday, Operation threaten no deal will go into overdrive, so maybe, just maybe it will scrape though.

 

Notably we havent seen the legal text of the agreement, and I doubt we will until the very last second.

 

Edit: I suspect the opposition will push to attach a referendum to it. If thats agreed, then it will fly through Parliament.

[Numero Veinticinco]

17 minutes ago, RobbieOR said:

That doesn't have the numbers to get through surely. 

Depends, mate. It’s going to be fucking close. 

[Bjornebye]

Does anyone think a second referendum will have a similar outcome? I think a second referendum would be a landline to remain. I actually think if they held one again a week after the last one it would have been remain. 

 

That Boris rhetoric though ... Lets get Brexit done so we can focus on public issues blah blah blah. 

 

You mean blogging false help and hope to the masses whilst selling off the NHS and continuing the Tory tradition of opening the class gap. 

 

Funny how his affair has been swept under the carpet this week..... Also what happened to him wanting a No Deal for his billionaire bastards to get richer quick? 

 

Im hoping for a commons showdown on Saturday so I can sit back and watch him get ripped to shreds. 

 

Looks like the EU have got him by the balls knowing full well they look to have satisfied a deal knowing full well it won't get through. Again. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I think it’ll be more strongly leave with his deal. 

[Dr Nowt]

[Bobby Hundreds]

Are there any details of this deal, what it entails.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

33 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Look where the capo is. Thick cunt. 

 

Not the first bum notes he has played. 

[clangers]

11 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I think it’ll be more strongly leave with his deal. 

I think leave would win, they'd campaign on the basis of the people being denied their democratic will by the establishment, 'we've already voted to leave' etc. I'm not sure Brexit would get a look in?

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Are there any details of this deal, what it entails.

Irish customs officials need their arm-bands 

[Jenson]

1 minute ago, clangers said:

I think leave would win, they'd campaign on the basis of the people being denied their democratic will by the establishment, 'we've already voted to leave' etc. I'm not sure Brexit would get a look in?

I'm not so sure. I think playing the 'denying the will of the people' angle is a bit preaching to the choir. I can't see many who voted remain last time now switching their vote to leave because of that argument. I do think that more people who voted leave will now vote remain after seeing what a shitshow Brexit actually will be, and knowing about all the lies that were sold to them. Add into that the number of 18-21 year olds who couldn't vote last time and are overwhelmingly more likely to vote remain, I can see remain squeaking it.