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just seen him interviewed on sky

 

" where liverpool the better team today david?"

 

"yes"

 

"whys that then?"

 

"they played better than us"

 

he is full of insight

 

It's that stuff which will see him gone.

 

We know well from Hodgson that hearing defensive guff which lays bare the fact he doesn't realise his own shortcomings, much less have any ability to overcome them, is the stuff which really saps a fan's morale after yet another tired performance.

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They still have a lot of good players and shouldn't be 14 points behind us.  That they are is purely down to Moyes.  You can see when their players approach the edge of the box they are going against their instincts.  Instead of intricate give and goes - proper football - they look to go wide almost every time.  The only players who really look comfortable playing this way are the full backs and Januzaj. The rest of them are looking pretty lost.  Hence their best chance today came from Rafael cutting the ball back to Rooney,  

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Manchester United 0 Liverpool 3: Five areas in which it's all gone wrong for David Moyes  
 
Mark Ogden analyses the fallout from Old Trafford after another chastening defeat for the Premier League champions
 

 

3:32PM GMT 16 Mar 2014

 

NO RETURN ON SIGNINGS:

 

Moyes has invested £65m on Marouane Fellaini and Juan Mata as United manager, but he has been unable to get the best from either of them.  Fellaini is too slow and one-dimensional, while Mata’s seven games have generated nothing. The Spaniard was fortunate to start this game ahead of Danny Welbeck.

 

PREDICTABLE TACTICS:

 

Under Moyes, United have become incredibly predictable.  Holding midfielders stay behind then ball and it is usually then played to the flanks for the full-backs to cross into the penalty area.  Despite the talents of Mata, Wayne Rooney and Adnan Januzaj, hardly anything goes through the middle of the pitch.

 

TOUCHLINE BODY LANGUAGE:

 

Moyes rarely looks calm and composed on the touchline and his agitated presence offers little but an expression of panic to his players.  Brendan Rodgers, even before Liverpool took the lead, was all about encouragement and trust and his team performed with the belief that had been infused by their manager.

 

WRONG TO OVERLOOK GIGGS:

 

United lack composure on the ball, which makes it surprising that Ryan Giggs has now mustered just 81 minutes on the pitch in the last ten weeks.  Giggs may be 40, but his performances early this season showed little sign of ageing legs.  Moyes needs to trust the Welshman just as Sir Alex Ferguson did, especially in games like this when possession is crucial.

 

CORNERS:

 

Many fans have become bewildered by Moyes’s tactic of refusing to leave a forward up-front when defending corners.  When the ball is cleared, two spare defenders then have time to play it back into danger.  Conversely, Liverpool deployed Daniel Sturridge to stand on the halfway line when defending United corners and he therefore kept two defenders busy.

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It's clear he's in way over his head, but the team has to take some criticism as well.

 

Contrast with, say, Chelsea, who change managers every 18 months, and still keep competing. Even with less-than-stellar managers.

 

Where is Ferdinand? Giggs? Vidic? Evra? Rooney?

 

Ferdinand-  old and slow and unmotivated

Giggs- probably shagging his brother's wife or doing whatever it is the Welsh do

Vidic- checked out long ago

Evra- past it

Rooney- collecting 300k and probably wondering how to get out of a contract

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They still have a lot of good players and shouldn't be 14 points behind us.  That they are is purely down to Moyes.  You can see when their players approach the edge of the box they are going against their instincts.  Instead of intricate give and goes - proper football - they look to go wide almost every time.  The only players who really look comfortable playing this way are the full backs and Januzaj. The rest of them are looking pretty lost.  Hence their best chance today came from Rafael cutting the ball back to Rooney,  

 

It was pretty much their strongest team today, and yet they were miles behind us.

 

Juan Mata was heralded as being the man to save Uniteds season, yet is being played way out of position in a role that doesn't suit him at all. 

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united fan on 5 live in tears having followed them for 54 years saying this is as bad as it gets. surprised hes still alive since hes old enough to remember 26 years without a league.

 

he hopes city win the league for the good of the city.

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