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  1. Thank fuck that’s over. If you’re expecting me to be gloating or happy about England’s heartbreak you’re going to be disappointed. I stand by everything I’ve said previously and under no circumstances did I want them to win, but when they lost all I felt was relief and, surprisingly, some sadness. I took absolutely no joy in it, in fact I actually felt quite bad for some of those involved. That doesn’t mean I wish they’d won because that would have been a fucking nightmare. But I do feel for a lot of the players and to a lesser extent for the decent, normal people (especially the kids) who got swept along and have been enjoying the ride. Rubbing their noses in it is not something I have any desire to do. I said ‘lesser extent’ there because those who aren’t really that arsed about footy but got excited because they’d reached a final will get over this pretty quickly. They probably already are. They can take the flags down from their windows and go back to not caring again. That’s not a criticism by the way. I get it and I don’t have a problem with it. They aren’t the reason I wanted England to lose. That being said, any time I heard anyone saying “it’s coming home” it provoked a reaction in me that I couldn’t control. “Fuck off you twat” was my instinctive response and it didn’t even matter if it was man woman or child saying it! There’s just something about that phrase that brings out the devil in me. The initial song was great and relevant at the time. Over the years it’s been hijacked and the meaning of it skewed by entitled dickheads. England are international football’s equivalent of Huddersfield or Blackpool. Imagine Huddersfield fans talking about “it’s coming home” if they happened to be in a title race. The song was about a tournament coming home to where football began. Now it's used as some weird self entitled mantra that suggests England have some kind of claim on international trophies when they haven't won one in my lifetime, and I'm nearly fifty now! They have no idea how ridiculous "its coming home" sounds and it just gives other nations more reason to take the piss. Look at the Italy players with their "It's coming to Rome" shouts. Can't blame them, everybody is sick of that "coming home" bullshit. I’m not proud of this but the players and the decent people supporting England are just collateral damage to me. If them being disappointed also means the huge amount of fucking wankers living their lives vicariously through ‘their country’ being successful are also left disappointed, so be it. That's the only thing that matters to me. I just didn’t want to see that huge amount of fucking twats from all around the country being happy. It’s that simple really. And if others who I have no beef with are also denied happiness then that’s preferable to me than seeing the absolute worst people in this country getting to celebrate. I should be the bigger man but *shrugs* I’m clearly not. All those videos we all saw of the mobs lashing bottles, fighting, shoving flares up their arseholes, storming the gates of the stadium, drinking beer out of each others arse cracks (yes, that happened) and all the rest of it, I did not want those people to be able to celebrate anything and if that meant hundreds of thousands of kids up and down the country also being disappointed then fine, I can live with that. As I say, I’m not proud of it but I can’t control it either. Speaking of kids, Adrianna came out of school today and told me her form teacher - who isn't really into footy - decided it would be a good idea to play the Italy anthem in class to wind up the lads. "This is for you" he said and then blasted it out. One of the lads stormed out of the class and reported him, and someone then showed up and took the teacher outside to have a word. It's pretty unacceptable behaviour that though I've got to be honest. Grassing up your teacher like that? What a snivelling little fucking baby. Anyway, I digress. Another reason for wanting them to lose was so the politicians would not be able to use it to distract attention from the shit they’ve been pulling. The likes of Johnson and Patel shoving on an England shirt and hash tagging #itscominghome to try and make themselves more relatable. Fuck all that. They’d have used the feel good mood of the nation to deflect away from all the deaths they’re responsible for. So to me, England had to lose because them winning would have been too unbearable on multiple levels, and yeah I’m relieved they did. But that doesn’t mean I’m happy or that I want to rub anyone’s noses in it. I thought I would be, but it turns out I’m not. This whole tournament stressed me out way more than it should have. It used to be easy rooting against England because I despised at least half the squad and that’s before we even get into all the other bullshit that surrounds it all. That isn’t the case now. Obviously I can’t stand Harry Kane but he alone wouldn’t be enough to make me actively root against the team. But if you were to take away the fans, the Brexit / Tory voting public, the politician bandwagon jumpers and the xenophobic element of the media, then.... nah I’d still want them to lose just because of that little cunt in goal. Sorry, there’s not a fucking chance in hell I’d be putting that to one side. Not after what he did. Anyway, avoiding England games by going to play golf hadn’t been working out too well for me as the only game they hadn’t won was the one I actually watched. So this time I went with a different approach. I decided to try and take one for the team by watching it. Wasn’t a great idea as all it took was the booing of the Italy anthem to set me off with the shouting and swearing. There I am trying to belt it out and I’m hearing boos. Basically this was me…. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/svEx6iCV1s8" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> So that already set the tone and when Luke Shaw scored early that was me done. I had to get out of there if only for the sake of my marriage. I took the dog for a long walk and kept updated via the lads in the various group chats. I stayed out as long as I could but predictably it dragged on and on and when the rain started coming down I had to head back home. I got back for the second half of extra time but England seemed to be on top and I just couldn’t watch it. So I went to sit in my office, watching Netflix to keep me occupied. Penalties was the absolute fucking nightmare scenario because that potentially threw up the worst possible outcome for me. England winning was always going to be unpalatable, but Pickford being the hero would have been the absolute fucking worst. I’d rather they won 10-0 than have that crayon eating thick twat be the hero. And he almost was. The only way he wasn’t going to be the hero after saving two pens was for some of his team-mates to be the villains. I genuinely feel bad for the lads that missed, especially Saka. I feel really bad for Rashford too as he’s always going to get it the worst from the little Englanders because he’s put himself out there with all the great work he’s done taking on the establishment and looking out for hungry kids. I don’t really know anything about Sancho so have no opinion on him other than that I certainly wouldn’t wish a penalty shoot out miss on him. The ideal scenario would have been Kane missing the decisive one but beggars can’t be choosers and I’ll take this even if I don’t feel good about it. Just what the fuck is Southgate doing putting a kid on the fifth penalty bthough? If he’s taking one, let it be one, two or even three. You can come back from those if you miss, but having him on the decisive fifth kick was negligible beyond belief. Criminal. Loads of people are giving Sterling and Grealish shit for not stepping up, but Grealish has since come out and said he wanted one but it was the manager’s call. No surprise there. I expect Sterling did too, even if he’s the last person on earth you’d want taking an important penalty. These lads are wired differently to the rest of us. If they didn’t have that belief in themselves they wouldn’t have gotten as far in their careers as they have. I doubt any of them said they didn’t want one but Grealish especially will have been desperate to take one because that’s his mentality. Self confidence is not something he’s lacking. So that mess was completely on Southgate. He even subbed Hendo because he didn’t trust him to take one, which was a relief to us Reds but again, I think it’s pretty scandalous and if I’m Hendo I’m fucking seething about it. I know he’s missed a couple for England but he’s got massive balls and I’d have bet on him scoring. How often do we see those redemption stories with penalties? If someone has missed in a tournament, they usually score next time. Hendo has big game experience and he’s taken penalties in big moments. He hasn’t always scored but he’s got the experience of being in that position and he’d have taken responsibility. Yet you sub him and let a teenager step up for the fifth pen. Incredible. Apparently Southgate went with who did the best in training. Soft cunt. I could probably bury eight out of ten in a training environment, but those odds come down massively in a pressure situation like that. I doubt I’d even be able to run up without falling over. So my point here is that training means fuck all because you can’t replicate the actual situation. Putting a kid in that spot was criminal. It was the biggest moment for the country in over 50 years and he’s putting al that weight on the shoulders of a teenager with barely a handful of games under his belt. What makes it worse is Southgate himself missed one of the most important penalties in England history so he ought to know better. When you look at the vile messages sent to the three lads who missed though, it highlights the dilemma facing those of us who just can’t back the team. You can either choose to condemn it and support the team in spite of the scum element (including the government who condoned booing of the lads taking the knee), or go the other way and want the team to lose just to deny these cunts anything to celebrate. I’m obviously in the latter category but I’m not saying I’m right. It’s probably not the way to go but it isn’t something I can control. I saw some tweets from black and asian lads and girls saying how this group of players and what they stand for has made them finally feel they can be a part of being English and supporting the national team, and that’s great. Genuinely, it’s sound and I’m delighted they can now feel that way. It doesn’t change anything for me personally though. I don’t want to stand shoulder to shoulder with the football fans of this country any more than I wanted to stand with the Mancs in their fight against the Glazers. They sing about scousers year in year out and then cry when some of us don’t “get behind your country”. I just can’t see past all the bad shit that ‘being English’ represents and I guarantee that as soon as the new season starts it will all be brought home again when we’ve got the ‘always the victim’ chants and the ’sign on’ chants and all the rest of it thrown our way. I see those comments directed at Saka and Rashford, I see the videos of England fans up and down the country acting like neanderthal wankers and I can’t help but just want to see them suffer and be miserable. The Rashford mural got vandalised, which is really fucking sickening as it’s in his home town where he basically should be seen as a fucking Saint. Imagine being from Manchester and not loving Marcus Rashford. He’s probably more popular with Liverpool fans. And if history is anything to go by there’ll be some twats singing “you let your country down” at the lads who missed the pens. Remember Gerrard got that? If and when Rashford, Sancho or Saka are subjected to that I’ll sit back and take some comfort in knowing that the cunts singing it will have been absolutely fucking devastated by what happened in the final. So many of these small time dickheads live their lives through the England team because their clubs are complete fucking non-entities that never bring them anything to celebrate. It’s no co-incidence that Liverpool and United are probably the two fanbases that on the whole care the least about England. Chelsea and Arsenal would be similar if they weren’t based in London. Those scenes inside Wembley were way worse than anything I would have expected, and I expected pretty bad shit to happen. Thousands forcing their way into the stadium without tickets was not something I saw coming. Then you had those who were already in deciding to beat the shit out of those who hadn't paid to be there. The whole thing was fucking nuts. People will say “don’t let them win” or “why let them stop you supporting England?”. If you can compartmentalise it and put that to one side then good for you. Seriously. I’m not being facetious. If you want to support England then do it. I respect your right to do it. Hopefully you respect mine to not. As for the footy itself, it’s difficult for me to offer any kind of assessment of England and how they played because I only watched one game (Scotland) and they were shite. Based on what the lads in the chat were saying and what I’ve read on the forum, they weren’t great overall and were shite in the final. Italy deserved to win the final because they weren’t as negative. Imagine being more negative than Italy! Southgate adopted the philosophy that the way to be successful was to not concede any goals and in fairness to him it almost worked. It’s not my cup of tea but he was a penalty shoot out away from winning the thing so he will say his approach was justified. With the attacking flair he has at his disposal maybe he should be a bit more adventurous (imagine what Klopp would do if he was choosing from Sterling, Sancho, Kane, Foden, Grealish, Saka, Mount etc) but it’s not my problem. I don’t really care how he gets them to play as it’s none of my business, but for what it’s worth my opinion of him as a coach is that he’s shite. He had every possible advantage to win this tournament but he came up short, and even at the last World Cup they basically had a bye to the semis and then lost to the only decent side they faced. He’s a decent fella but he’s not good at his job. He picked Declan Rice over Hendo in every game for fucks sake. This is some Brazil style, Fred over Fabinho baffling shit. So in the end the best team in the competition won it and even the England fans I heard on the radio afterwards said Italy deserved to win the final as they were the better side for most of it. Mancini has done an incredible job really because man for man that isn’t a great side. It’s a good one, but put it this way, how many of those players would you have at the Reds? I’m taking Veratti, and some of the others would be great additions to the squad but how many get into the starting eleven? Then again, we’re one of the best sides in Europe so it’s a tall order getting in our line up. I think my point is that on paper Italy are not even as strong as England, let alone the likes of France and Belgium. The French should have pissed this tournament but they’re another team being held back by a shithouse coach. Mancini got the balance right. Italy were attacking when they needed to be and defended when they had to. I’m happy for my guy Chiellini who added another highlight to the collection with the horse collar tackle on Saka. I was walking past a row of houses when that happened and all I heard was yelling from different households. I didn’t know what was going on until I read it in the chat and then someone posted a clip of it. Outstanding, that’s what you need from your defenders. I saw his “it’s coming Rome” tweet from the plane where he’s holding the trophy and some of the replies were gold. Loads of moral high ground taking about “you need to cheat to win” and “I’d rather lose fairly than win like that”. It’s usually people who don’t watch footy and jumped on the bandwagon, because any proper footy fan absolutely gets why he did that and they’d want their own defender to do the exact same thing. There was a fair bit of cry arsing about Jorginho not being sent off for a stamp on Grealish. Not for me, Clive. It looked worse than it was. It’s difficult for a player when an opponent slides in needlessly while you are making a play on the ball from a standing position. It isn’t a deliberate stamp but a lesser referee would have sent him off for that so I understand the debate about it. It didn’t make any difference because neither team were going to score in extra time (they rarely do and it’s becoming a bit pointless really) and he missed his pen. Credit to Pickford for that because he did exactly what you need to do against someone who takes penalties like that. You have to not commit and make them beat you by finding the corner. Pickford didn’t go early and got his reward. He might be a repulsive little hyperactive twat but that was great goalkeeping. Player of the Tournament for me is obviously my man Chiellini, but it probably would have been Spinazzola had he not been injured. Jorginho was extremely influential too and is worth a shout, as is Bonucci. Donnarumma got the official award which I’m not on board with at all, but it was difficult as there was no one obvious stand out candidate. My team of the tournament is probably a load of old bollocks because I didn’t watch every game live and a lot of this is based on highlights. Plus I can’t include any England players as I didn’t watch their games. Maybe a couple of them should be in here but on this occasion their absence is not based on bias, just ignorance. Team of the Tournament: Sommer; Spinazzola, Bonucci, Chiellini, Maehle; Jorginho, De Bruyne, Pedri; Ronaldo, Schick, Chiesa. Honourable mentions. Wijnaldum, Dumfries, Hoijberg, Damsgaard, Lukaku, Robbo, Coufal, Veratti, Barella, Forsberg, Donnarumma, Shaq and Pogba. Yes, I said Pogba and no I can’t believe it either. Goal of the tournament Schick against Scotland was great, but I did love the Denmark goal with the glorious cross by Maehle and of course the Luca Modric effort against Scotland was stunning. My favourite goal was the Ronaldo counter attack one though. Love that shit me. Game of the tournament 1 Switzerland 3 France 3 2 Belgium 1 Italy 2 3 Portugal 2 Germany 4 Moment of the Tournament 1 Chiellini's shenanigans with Alba prior to the shoot out. 2 The Scottish right back's treatment of Grealish. “McGinn gave me some tips. You need to nibble his ear but don’t be critical, be complimentary. So the whole time I was telling him how good looking he is. I love his calves, asking how he got his hair like that” 3 Any Italian Anthem Random player I'd like us to buy based on the tournament Definitely Maehle. Honourable shout to Pedri (not realistic, but it would be funny to take him off Barca's skint little grubby hands) and Renato Sanches too. And if Veratti and his haunting blue eyes ever fancy leaving Paris then there's a spot here for him too, despite our dismal prior record with Italians. Pundit of the Tournament 1 Roy Keane 2 Roy Keane 3 Roy Keane Twat of the tournament 1 Pickford. Just because. 2 Benzema. Hate him. 3 The Turkish fan with Covid 19 on the back of his shirt. My Boy of the tournament 1 Chiellini 2 Maehle 3 Pepe Fraud of the tournament 1 Deschamps 2 Russia 3 Southgate 4 Laporte (he's fucking FRENCH!!). 5 Martinez Surprise package of the tournament Pogba. He actually performed like a top footballer at times. Worst Player in the Tournament Lyndon Dykes. (See also 'worst player in the history of the world') Biggest disappointment of the tournament Has to be Mbappe. He played ok on the whole, yet he was expected to take this tournament by storm and make no impact at all. Special mention to Germany as well. Fucking dickheads could have spared me a lot of stress if they hadn't been so shit.
    15 points
  2. Seeing the boys burst into tears when England lost was fucking horrible to see, told them we’d do something cool tonight to make up for it. Came downstairs to pour another G&T and remembered the three gammons in our street who ripped down their England flags after the Scotland draw had been setting up fireworks in the afternoon. I stood at the kitchen window having a drink watching them try to light the fireworks in the pissing rain, only, the only one they could even get to start was a Catherine wheel that fizzed out after about 15 seconds. I just watched pissing myself laughing, enjoying a gin and told myself off for ever doubting England wouldn’t find a way to fuck it all up.
    12 points
  3. Some people say that Italian defending is a form of art. Well, it is now.
    9 points
  4. I hope every gobshite who laughed their bollocks off at Gerrard and us in 2014 and who sing about how he fell on his arse, and the same gobshites who thought it was so, so funny when Karius handed Real Madrid the European Cup, who also pissed themselves when we got 97 pts and couldn't win title and who flooded social media demanding null and void when we were on verge of title are absolutely gutted tonight. Fuck them, fuck ingerlund.
    8 points
  5. 7 points
  6. Morning after the night before, some thoughts. Platini's idea of staging games around Europe was a good one but not suited to the covid restrictive times. Overall however, flaws appeared as some fans would have been expected to travel from one country to another in a couple of days as their teams progressed. The shite about England having an 'unfair' advantage of not having to travel would have applied to any other nation that hosted the semis and final if the host had progressed. Indeed when the tournament is awarded to any one country as in the past, they have a massive advantage, playing all their games in their own country. Right? Overall, the games were dire with entertaining ones few and far between. Might be something we experience more in European club football seeing as UEFA have done away with 'away' goals rule? England. I admit to being disappointed they didnt win. It was a great opportunity to win the competition. Concentrating on just the final, they got off to a great start, a goal inside the first 2 minutes. Only another 88 to hang on for then! And so it seemed. By whatever circumstances, England were on the back foot and couldnt take the game to Italy. It all reminded me of a plucky League One side who score an earlier goal against a Premier League team in an FA Cup tie and battle vainly to keep the ball and defend the score. But England couldnt because from the goalkeeper to the midfield, no one had the idea or ability to put their foot on the ball and find the nearest white shirt instead of just putting their foot through it and expecting Kane, Sterling or Mount to chase it. Talking of Mount, just how the fuck did he manage to stay on the pitch until extra time? The lazy arsed fuck offered nothing up front and I didnt see him stick a foot in at all during the 2nd half. I thought he''d been subbed at half time because I never heard a mention of him until he was subbed in extra time! Once again, sterling flattered to deceive. He thinks if he falls over often enough, the ref is going to give him more fouls. And when he did stay on his feet and got into dangerous positions, he always wanted too many touches instead of whipping in a cross or taking a shot. Kane just looked fucked to me. I think I could beat him in a sprint! The Manager. Southgate is probably a decent guy. But he's no top class manager. Knighthood? Fuck off, you dont reward failure. Once again, he looked like a rabbit caught in car headlights. I think he didnt believe his team had scored when it did such was his demeanor when they did. Is he the first manager to sub players he has put on twice when the said players were not injured? Isnt subbing a player you've put on not 30 minutes before a waste of a substitution? Shouldnt your tactics dictate who is put on so you dont have to take him off when you want the team to change formation and tactics later? The penalties. The old girl said to me 'why do you get annoyed when any player misses a penalty?' It's true, I do get annoyed when players miss but not all of them. Doesnt matter what country they were playing for, either. I said it's because some of them want to be billy big bollocks, look at me, with their stupid 'run ups,' little dances and fancy flicks instead of concentrating on putting the ball in the net. All they do is confuse themselves most of the time and miss. FIFA has made it even harder for keepers to save pen legitimately yet still these fucks persist with their dances and stupid tippy tappy pens. Put your fucking laces through it is my mantra. Did the England players practice pens? Did the England coaches say it's ok Marcus, carry on with your silly little dance before your run up? We all know you have to score your pens. Myself, I think there are 3 big pressure points in these penalty situations: Got to score your first, got to score your 5th and got to score immediately after the oppos have missed their's. You just knew Rashford was going to miss as soon as he started his shuffle which went on and on and on until he was on top of the ball at which point he didnt have the position to put power into it or place it. Sancho, fuck me, Dortmund must be pissing themselves getting over £70m for him. He's done nothing in my opinion to warrant that fee. Saka. I feel for the boy, I really do. Where the fuck were southgate's managerial qualities in letting the least experienced player in his team take what was always going to be a big pressure 5th penalty? Why arent senior pros like sterling, grealish or stones stepping in to take that? Yes, I understand Saka may have wanted to take the pen. Or, even if he hadnt taken the 5th, may have had to take a later sudden death one. But Im amazed at the cowardice of some of these senior players who demand £300,000 a week wages but let an 18 year old kid take a big penalty before them. Overall, Ive no problem with the result. England were deffo second best for all but the first 2 minutes of the game. At half time I said tothe old girl if Italy equalise England were in trouble because they were losing possession in their own half, and not making any real chances. Did Donnaruma have a shot to save after Shaw's goal and before the penalties? Thank god it's over. Here's to the start of the Premier League.
    7 points
  7. Well the best team on the night won. I wanted England to win but after Jorginho went down for a break, England lost their early momentum and Italy recovered from their initial shock. I'm probably being unfair here but Southgate for me seemed to freeze, we all knew that it wasn't working and needed changes but he either didn't know what to do or was too scared to make them. In the second half at 1-1 England played like they were protecting a 1 goal lead, madness. The only person that looked gutted when the last penalty was missed was my 8 year old granddaughter and I felt sorry at least for her, she hasn't spent half a century watching the national team balls it up, she will get used to it. The luckiest person was my 3 year old grandson, who has been singing 'I'm going home' but had like most of the England team been fast asleep for hours when they lost. Players shouldn't have to avoid social media but I think it's about time they did. Also those platforms need to hunt out those responsible for the sickening racist abuse and provide the evidence so the perpetrators can be prosecuted. If they can't then they should be shut down, social media platforms need to start taking more responsibility for the scum that use it.
    7 points
  8. If you gave me a choice of a 100 million pound for a new signing or give a 100 million to klopp to just stay with us for another decade I'd go klopp every day of the week and be giddy as shit. Hes perfect for this club.
    6 points
  9. You'd expect such idiocy from england fans. But I'll be disappointed if Henderson doesn't hang up his international boots now. He went to a major tournament, granted, only over an injury, but was overlooked in place of declan backpass rice and kelvin Phillips. Why, at his age should he be wasting his valuable time with that. He'll add 2 years to his Liverpool career if Jack's them in.
    6 points
  10. Loving the way players who've won fuck all in their career and play for nomark clubs tear off a runners up medal for an international tournament as soon as it is put over their neck.
    5 points
  11. Seems a good day to post this...
    5 points
  12. I do feel a little bit sorry for some of the sound English fans. I am made up though that the little shit that crippled Van Dijk and effectively ruined our season didn’t end up being the hero of the hour. For a few horrifying moments there it was looking likely after the Jorginho penalty save. Also I had money on Italy to win outright before a ball was kicked so happy to make a few bob in the process.
    5 points
  13. Society is almost finished as we know it. Everything has been politicised and weaponised. Its a far cry from the communities I grew up in where everyone would pull together for each other regardless. A crying shame for my children to endure.
    5 points
  14. Looked like Jordan was the only one to not pathetically and disrespectfully remove his medal when presented with it and along with Phillips stayed to watch Italy lift the trophy .
    4 points
  15. Will update this thread to track the progress of players out on loan. Current loans: Goalkeepers Vitezslav Jaros - St. Patricks (31/12/2021) Jakub Ojrzynski - Caernarfon Town (30/06/2022) Defenders Adam Lewis - Livingston (31/05/2022) Anderson Arroyo - CD Mirandes (30/06/2022) Sepp Van Den Berg - Preston North End (31/05/2022) Midfielders Forwards Paul Glatzel - Tranmere Rovers (31/05/2022)
    3 points
  16. Southgate isn't a great tactician, he's fundamentally conservative in his approach and that has held them back. However being an international coach is a lot more than picking 11 players and setting them up. There is a million different other things that England have been traditionally shit at and he's fixed them. The squad is the most together squad I have known, he has picked and dropped players based on form which wasn't always the case. He's a good relationship with the media, with clubs and managers, in short he plays the politics well. You could swap him for a more tactically astute manager and lose half of the above. International management is a retirement home these days, he could well be as good as they can hope for.
    3 points
  17. England are overrated and flat track bullies that had a very favourable draw in both the Euros and the World Cup. The only top side England have beaten in those 2 competitions was a German team in total chaos. All this crap about how strong England are is just baffling. The difference in quality between Italy and England was so clear last night. Southgate and his negative team selections and tactics are nothing to be proud of.
    3 points
  18. Oh aye, unlike them, we invite them into the pubs and sing their anti everton songs together, dont we? Oh wait....
    3 points
  19. Imagine being an Evertonian and posting this without any hint of irony.
    3 points
  20. To be honest , the summer / international break could not have gone much better for us with barely anybody playing much , England getting Hendo fit for us , VvD and Joe back in full training and the likes of Mo and Sadio getting their first proper break for years.
    3 points
  21. I wonder if England will ever end their penalty curse. It's pretty impressive how many big games they've lost on penalties in major tournaments. I like Southgate as a person but it was pretty clear from day one that he's not a good manager and last night he was completely out of his depth. That said, he's done better than most England managers.
    3 points
  22. Good morning! And what a beautiful, glorious, rainy British morning it is! There were loads of English knobheads in the ground (in the ground) There were loads of English knobheads in the ground There were loads of English knobheads Loads of English knobheads Loads of English knobheads in the ground And the footy team from Italy shot them down (shot them down) And the footy team from Italy shot them down And the footy team from Italy Footy team from Italy Footy team from Italy shot them down
    3 points
  23. Disappointed for Henderson. I didn't like Southgate taking the captaincy from him. I don't suppose Henderson did either. But he reacted like a captain should. Class player/person.
    3 points
  24. Last one before I go to bed.
    3 points
  25. Best team won. England did the best they possibly could. Easy group and played a clapped out Germany to have a dream run to the final. Knock outs had 3 big games at Wembley. No serious injuries. At the end, they were too negative, and still took it to the wire. But for the manager to bring in 2 kids just to take pens - kids who have no experience, had no time to touch the ball, and aren't even the regular takers for their clubs - is absolute madness. There's nothing else to add to that. Tactics, shmactics. They set up not to lose from day zero, and to rely on the quality of Kane and Sterling. That's what took them to the final, and that was always how they were going to play the final. Well done, Italy. They got everything they deserved, playing exciting and positive football, beating Belgium, Spain and the defacto home nation on the way.
    3 points
  26. Come on, who hasn’t been walking the streets of Spain and heard an Italian accent and been able to attribute it to the specific city they were from?
    3 points
  27. Thank fuck that’s over. If you’re expecting me to be gloating or happy about England’s heartbreak you’re going to be disappointed. I stand by everything I’ve said previously and under no circumstances did I want them to win, but when they lost all I felt was relief and, surprisingly, some sadness. I took absolutely no joy in it, in fact I actually felt quite bad for some of those involved. That doesn’t mean I wish they’d won because that would have been a fucking nightmare. But I do feel for a lot of the players and to a lesser extent for the decent, normal people (especially the kids) who got swept along and have been enjoying the ride. Rubbing their noses in it is not something I have any desire to do. I said ‘lesser extent’ there because those who aren’t really that arsed about footy but got excited because they’d reached a final will get over this pretty quickly. They probably already are. They can take the flags down from their windows and go back to not caring again. That’s not a criticism by the way. I get it and I don’t have a problem with it. They aren’t the reason I wanted England to lose. That being said, any time I heard anyone saying “it’s coming home” it provoked a reaction in me that I couldn’t control. “Fuck off you twat” was my instinctive response and it didn’t even matter if it was man woman or child saying it! There’s just something about that phrase that brings out the devil in me. The initial song was great and relevant at the time. Over the years it’s been hijacked and the meaning of it skewed by entitled dickheads. England are international football’s equivalent of Huddersfield or Blackpool. Imagine Huddersfield fans talking about “it’s coming home” if they happened to be in a title race. The song was about a tournament coming home to where football began. Now it's used as some weird self entitled mantra that suggests England have some kind of claim on international trophies when they haven't won one in my lifetime, and I'm nearly fifty now! They have no idea how ridiculous "its coming home" sounds and it just gives other nations more reason to take the piss. Look at the Italy players with their "It's coming to Rome" shouts. Can't blame them, everybody is sick of that "coming home" bullshit. I’m not proud of this but the players and the decent people supporting England are just collateral damage to me. If them being disappointed also means the huge amount of fucking wankers living their lives vicariously through ‘their country’ being successful are also left disappointed, so be it. That's the only thing that matters to me. I just didn’t want to see that huge amount of fucking twats from all around the country being happy. It’s that simple really. And if others who I have no beef with are also denied happiness then that’s preferable to me than seeing the absolute worst people in this country getting to celebrate. I should be the bigger man but *shrugs* I’m clearly not. All those videos we all saw of the mobs lashing bottles, fighting, shoving flares up their arseholes, storming the gates of the stadium, drinking beer out of each others arse cracks (yes, that happened) and all the rest of it, I did not want those people to be able to celebrate anything and if that meant hundreds of thousands of kids up and down the country also being disappointed then fine, I can live with that. As I say, I’m not proud of it but I can’t control it either. This is just a teaser, click here to view the full article Please note that Euro 2020 round ups are only available to website subscribers. Subscriptions cost just £2 a month (you need to register first) and can be purchased here.
    2 points
  28. He really is! Strange admiring a United player but there's a lot to admire in the lad. Nice to the messages of support from the decent majority of Withington folk covering up that graffiti on the mural of him!
    2 points
  29. Rashford just posted his response to the tournament and the past 24 hours. He is such an impressive character.
    2 points
  30. Finished Sons of Anarchy last night, excellent series.
    2 points
  31. Self awareness sadly lacking in this one Blue Bear @1BearTruth Spare a thought for our Scottish & Welsh compadres! They don't get to watch their teams progress or get to finals.They only get 2nd hand thrills of supporting whoever plays England. So if you're upset England lost,it could be worse! You could be one of these poor bitter sad c*nts https://mobile.twitter.com/1BearTruth/status/1414383311225593856
    2 points
  32. Whenever she talks about racism I always think "How the fuck are you in that party?"
    2 points
  33. I've taken the piss out of Warsi for years (for Kinnock suggesting she'd be a great unelected EU commissioner) but she's on the button here.
    2 points
  34. Fuck Racism.
    2 points
  35. What if I told you that you could love your county whilst also hating / disliking certain elements of it. (Some of the national teams supporters, the government…etc) This isn’t North Korea.
    2 points
  36. I feel for the players to be honest. A proper manager would have had his most experienced players on pens, Kane on no.5. Southgate looks like an arms round the players type, but as has been posted once Italy regrouped he didn’t have the smarts to rejig and go again. As for everything else, it just shows up an element of society at large that happens to manifest at football. I knew the lads who missed would cop it online. 35 and 36 year old centre backs for Italy and he didn’t think to have all of his young attacking players running at them non stop, and pressing the Italian midfield. I know Kane set up the goal but coming so deep all the time then trotting to the edge of the box is shite. Any European footy fan would say England’s biggest fault is not being good with the ball, and the players not being tactically astute enough.
    2 points
  37. To be honest I thought Southgate's initial tactics were pretty sound. Knew Italy would dominate the ball in the middle through the Jorginho / Barella / Veratti axis so fucked off the 4-2-3-1, and picked a side that wilfully gave up the middle of the park but would have the run of the flanks. For about 20 minutes it worked really well - then Jorginho got injured and Mancini used the break to explain how to counter it. From there, Italy never looked back and Southgate left it far, far too late to change things. In the end I paradoxically thought England's best chance to win was on penalties - despite the shit record - since they barely laid a glove on Italy for 75 minutes at least. So he could have done some shit better but equally the Italians are a better side - they were on the night by a distance and they were through the tournament as well. I'm sad for (most of) the players and that an opportunity for a bit of national unity has been lost, and I'm gutted for a few mates who are properly into the international footy. But the fucking cunts who broke into the stadium, crushing other fans and smashing into stewards, trashing the streets and sending racist shit to Saka and Rashford will be equally gutted, and that's very fucking enjoyable.
    2 points
  38. England and Southgate reverting to type in the end. They played well in the first half but after Italy tweaked their tactics and personnel at halftime, and fully seized the initiative, Southgate did his rabbit in headlights act. Waited too long to act, made the wrong decisions, failed to beef up the midfield where Veratti and that horrible twat Jorginho were running the show. Too many speculative passes on the occasions they did win the ball back, too little composure, too many hoofed clearances. Hard to tell what formation England went to after they reverted to a back four. Saka certainly didn’t seem to know. It seemed to end up as a 4-1-4-1, but it was shambolic whatever it was. And how did Mount stay on the pitch so long? Maybe Southgate, like the rest of us, forgot he was there! Ah well, we can fully focus on the serious business of the transfer window and pre-season.
    2 points
  39. So Sterling and Kane?? The team set up like a mid table side. Against everyone.
    2 points
  40. The three lads who missed the penalties are already being subjected to the usual vile racist abuse on Twitter and various other social media platforms, and plenty of vids doing the rounds of Italians and coloured people being filled in for no good reason. Does it ever end? This is the main reason why I had no problems seeing England get beaten. I genuinely feel sorry for the decent people who support England, and all the kids who are getting caught up in this football fervour, perhaps for the first time. Unfairly tarred with the same brush as the knuckle dragging flagshaggers, until those brain dead bastards are finally completely disconnected from the international side then many of us won't support England and side with xenophobes, racists and cunts. After a tournament where England gained much, all gone to shite at the 11th hour.
    2 points
  41. Yeah that was dead awkward because I’d drunkenly told my bird when she had rumours on when we were first “courting” that was mine and my exes song and she had already come in for a cuddle on the couch before that monologue. Cheers BBC you Tory cunts. Nothings been said yet but that was the most uncomfortable 4 minutes I’ve had since I was under fire.
    2 points
  42. What an absolutely magical end to the weekend.
    2 points
  43. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
    2 points
  44. Whereas there's never been a military junta in Brazil! And Bolsonaro's Brazil is fucking utopia!
    2 points



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