Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Anubis]

I think Sturgeon has just hinted they may support it if it's brought back on Monday in Scottish First Minister's Questions, after it was pointed out it was one of the SNP had been promoting throughout the process.

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I've got 87 convictions for domestic violence. 

 

Or, maybe it's your latter suggestion? Yeah, it's your latter suggestion. Pops is on a random one again. 

 

That's paedophilia AND domestic violence he's falsely, and without substance, accused people of now. The shit troll. 

Come on, even I heard of the loaded question fallacy.  Keep up you stupid boy. 

 

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/loadques.html

[Numero Veinticinco]

46 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

You must be familiar with the "When did you stop beating your wife?" idiom, surely.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

I know what a loaded question is, of course. Now, back to the subject at hand.  It isn’t comparable because, unlike Nelly who hasn’t shown any signs of being a wife beater, Rico has both shown himself to be extremely predjudicial to an entire group of people based on nothing more than their racial and cultural identity, and defended deplorable racism and that has both been shown multiple times upon request and I’m more than happy to do it every time it is asked of me by the man himself. 

[Mook]

13 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I would assume all the parties will be concentrating on & discussing the likely 3 top ' nearest to success ' indicative votes that will probably get a second go on Monday , but I can't see it is bad politics to point out that the SNP would not show indicative support for a plan which seems to be far better than most on offer for their country.

 

You are up in Scotland , Mook , any idea why they couldn't support it ?

 

Is it a new vote or nothing , now ?

What's the Labour plan they're not supporting?

 

Sorry, I've not been keeping up. I Googled it but there's nothing jumping out at me.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

In what way is negging ‘bullying’ and are you a bully when you happen to neg somebody first or is it just those negging you? Also, in what way does negging silence somebody? It has no impact upon what you can post, where you can post it, or whether your post is displayed. 

 

It’s a red thumb icon. 

@Strontium Dog

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, Mook said:

It was a bit of a stupid Tweet really, Labour are enough of a joke up here without tweeting stuff like that in the middle of a huge national (UK) crisis. He could win some Scottish voters back by backing the remain campaign but he's acting like he's more interested in something that happened 40 years ago there.

 

Pathetic really & Sturgeon isn't much better.

 

Didn't agree with it either, don't think they should be arguing on twitter at a time like this.

 

As for what they're not supporting, this doesn't mention the option they passed on but gives their reason for voting like they did, from Guardian live section :

 

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But Sturgeon insisted that her reasoning was that, with options to remain among the amendments, “stopping Brexit altogether must be our top priority”. She added that the option of staying in the single market and customs union was not on the ballot paper last night.

 

Her spokesperson later said that the first minister’s position was that “remain appears to be very much in play”, that there was nothing on last night’s ballot that met the full continued single market/customs union arrangement put forward as a compromise by the Scottish government in 2016, but that the SNP has “not abandoned the potential for compromise”.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/mar/28/brexit-latest-news-live-no-deal-on-12-april-most-likely-unless-mps-back-mays-deal-or-alternative-says-letwin-politics-live?page=with:block-5c9cda50e4b0b4d18bde1d07#block-5c9cda50e4b0b4d18bde1d07

 

[sir roger]

Hope they are working together to find common ground on the indicative voting options for next Monday ( assuming the half a turd May thing doesn't get through tomorrow ).

[Numero Veinticinco]

8 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

In what way is negging ‘bullying’ and are you a bully when you happen to neg somebody first or is it just those negging you? Also, in what way does negging silence somebody? It has no impact upon what you can post, where you can post it, or whether your post is displayed. 

 

It’s a red thumb icon. 

@Strontium Dog

 

Strontium ‘I never dodge posts’ Dog. Message for you, buddy. 

[Strontium]

5 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

@Strontium Dog

 

Strontium ‘I never dodge posts’ Dog. Message for you, buddy. 

 

I didn't want to talk about it. Let's just say it's not about negs so much as the sentiment behind them. I have been trying to sort this via PM for weeks to no avail, I guess sometimes people have a vision of you in their heads that is hard to change, no matter how inaccurate it is.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

28 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 I have been trying to sort this via PM for weeks to no avail, 

I think she's been a bit tied up with her Brexit stuff, mate.

[Dougie Do'ins]

Questiontime in Sheffield tonight. Member of the audience championed Corbyn for the next PM. The idea seemed to go down like a lead balloon with the rest of the audience.

[Red Phoenix]

19 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

Questiontime in Sheffield tonight. Member of the audience championed Corbyn for the next PM. The idea seemed to go down like a lead balloon with the rest of the audience.

 

Probably one of the most likely things to upset all the Tory/right-wing plants they have in there, not surprised.

[Red Phoenix]

 

There's some of the notable ones here too, would love to see a full list of Tory councillors, etc, people have found on there : https://twitter.com/search?f=images&vertical=default&q=bbcqt plant&src=typd

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I didn't want to talk about it. Let's just say it's not about negs so much as the sentiment behind them. I have been trying to sort this via PM for weeks to no avail, I guess sometimes people have a vision of you in their heads that is hard to change, no matter how inaccurate it is.

Fair enough. There probably is a ‘forum view’ of al of us that isn’t particularly true or flattering. That said, we are also all responsible for how we come off, at least most of the time. So there’s something we can do about it, or atthe very least we can openly look at the role we play in the situation occurring. 

 

Can i I recommend a book that helped me and really resonated with me. It’s not a self help book or anything mental. I’ll PM it to you if you’d prefer. 

[cloggypop]

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Hahahahaha

[Numero Veinticinco]

Hahahah. That’s fucking pure GF. 

[SasaS]

11 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Fair enough. There probably is a ‘forum view’ of al of us that isn’t particularly true or flattering. That said, we are also all responsible for how we come off, at least most of the time. So there’s something we can do about it, or atthe very least we can openly look at the role we play in the situation occurring. 

 

Can i I recommend a book that helped me and really resonated with me. It’s not a self help book or anything mental. I’ll PM it to you if you’d prefer. 

 

It's Dianetics, right?

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

Dianetics

It’s not not Dianetics. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The Tories have been tweeting shit about Corbyn being committed to stopping Brexit. 

 

Meanwhile, the #FBPE "Centrists" are still slating him as a closet Brexiteer. 

 

The weird thing is, his personal position on the EU has long since been clear and consistent: he campaigned against its increasing neoliberalism, but never campaigned to leave, because the UK is better off in the EU, despite all its flaws. The Leave vote altered the balance of costs, risks and benefits a little, as it means it's not possible to remain without pissing half the country off; hence the "we respect the result, but..." policy agreed by Conference. 

 

The trouble is, Brexit debates have become so polarised that everyone sees it all in black and white: if you're not an enthusiastic Leaver you must be a Remainer and vice versa.

[Rico1304]

Up 5 in the latest polling. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Up 5 in the latest polling. 

I read this in the guardian from an opinium poll today, it's fucking depressing reading, how the fuck can Corbyn be behind that mental twat? If he can't get ahead of her, labour truly have no chance. 

 

Theresa May’s lead over Jeremy Corbyn, when voters are asked who would be the best prime minister, has halved since last month. Her lead has dropped from 15 points at the end of February to 7 points in the latest poll.

[cloggypop]

@britainelects: Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 41% (+5)
CON: 36% (-7)
LDEM: 7% (+1)
UKIP: 7% (+2)

via @DeltaPollUK
Chgs. w/ 23 Feb

[ZonkoVille77]

Polls mean fuck all.

[Megadrive Man]

Agreed.

 

The majority of young and new voters don't feature in polls.