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  1. Monday Oct 14: Trent played left back and scored a free-kick. I’m actually surprised England haven’t tried that before given the problems they’ve had at the position. Adam Clery at 442 has been suggesting it for a while. I wouldn’t do it, I’d put him right back and have one of the other jabronis like Walker or Trippier move to the left, but given Southgate’s unwillingness to do that you’d have thought he’d have taken a look at Trent there. Of course Roy Keane is still trotting out his lazy nonsense. "If you give time to Trent, you can see his decision-making, his quality passing is fantastic but honestly, I still can't believe how bad he is defensively. Against better teams, of course, he'll be found out." We’ve been through his before, but who are these “better teams” then? He plays against some of the best club sides in the world on a regular basis and has done for years. All of those teams would fucking murder any international team you want to line up, and when has he ever been “found out”? He’s had bad games, he’s been at fault for some goals, but guess what, so has every other defender in world football. Trent has played against every top left winger in the world and at no point has it ever been a glaring issue. I like Keane, he’s witty and he tells a great story. He’s brilliant on the Overlap but as a pundit, talking about games, he’s just lazy and takes the low hanging fruit every time. I don’t think he takes his job particularly seriously and I can’t imagine he does anything like the research that Carra and even Neville do. He just shows up, moans about whoever the easiest target is and then goes home. It was telling to me the other week on the Overlap when they were discussing Man City and Keane had absolutely no idea what they were being charged with and what they’d done. Ian Wright knew and he was trying to get a conversation about it going, but Keane and Jill Scott were completely in the dark about it, Rooney didn’t seem to know much either (fair enough as he’s a manager and has other things to focus on) and Neville is a shithouse who knows exactly what City have been up to but has avoided the subject as much as its possible for him to do so. Keane, in the job he’s in, should have made it his business to read up on it and find out exactly how they’ve been cheating. The fact he has nothing to say on the matter is a damning indictment on him I think. We’re being linked with a left back from Benfica. Álvaro Carreras, who is having a great start to the season and is being tracked by United (not a problem), Barca (yeah not worried about them) and…. Real Madrid. Ok, scratch that then.
    31 points
  2. Firstly, it's a good result and I'm made up to end another weekend in top spot. However, at the risk of sounding like a spoilt, ungrateful little shit, that felt somewhat unfulfilling and my confidence levels for the coming weeks were certainly not boosted, despite a win over what will probably be a top four or five team that took us to the top of the table. Just reading that sentence back to myself makes me squirm. I know how how it sounds, you don’t need to tell me. I’m fully aware. Here me out though, I'll try to explain why I'm not as thrilled as I probably should be. It’s hard to explain because I wouldn’t say I’m disappointed, unhappy, worried or any of that. All of those are too strong. I just think that despite winning yet another game, we’re not necessarily passing the eye test and as such there is a little bit of concern there. Not by the performance as such, more so by the approach. In terms of the performance I think the players probably mostly did what was asked of them, although you’d need to ask Slot about that. I guess what I’m saying is I didn’t see what I would have asked of them, or what Jurgen always asked of them. Yet I’m probably going to have to tailor those expectations accordingly if this game is anything to go by. We treated Chelsea in a way that only Manchester City have been treated at Anfield in the last nine years. And even then, we only played like that against City a couple of times and only at times when we weren’t at our best level and Klopp went more pragmatic than he normally would. While Klopp obviously gave due care and attention to tactics in the bigger games, it was always applied with the mentality of “we’re gonna run all over these fuckers today”. Didn’t matter who it was, if they come to Anfield they’re getting the kitchen sink thrown at them. I think back to what we did to Chelsea at Anfield last season, and then I look at what happened here, and it’s night and day. Granted, both coaches are different and Chelsea are in better form now than they were then. They have a different tactical approach too, so it’s not the same game. I get that, and I’m not suggesting we would have destroyed them the way we did last season. For one thing Bradley was missing this time! I just think we paid them far too much respect and I don’t like seeing us passively sitting off teams and letting them have the ball at Anfield, and then when we have it we just pass it around going nowhere for long spells. That being said, it’s not a criticism, it’s just a personal preference.
    20 points
  3. Whenever I see Ferguson these days, I immediately think of this.
    20 points
  4. Before you lot totally take the piss out of me and call me an old cunt, hear me out! (and then call me an old cunt) I was walking back with my eldest from his hurling match a few Saturdays ago and walked past the junior soccer training that my lad used to do a few years back and Cillian went over to say hello so I followed over too. One of his old coaches called me over. He’s around 62 or 63 but in good shape. An ex League of Ireland player with Shelbourne and has kept himself relatively fit. He said they had walking football and asked my age. I said “fuck off I’m only 51” and he said it was for over 55s but they are not getting enough people so do I fancy coming down? I again told him to fuck off, but he said just give it a try. That was a month ago. Last night I relented and went down. Holy shite the craic I had. 12 blokes in their 60s of all shapes and sizes, but all good players who played in their youth from all levels up to League of Ireland, and me and another bloke in our early 50s. It’s on an 8 a side pitch so decent space to be able to enjoy the ball, but people still on you quick. We just use a 5-a-side goal and you can only shoot from within 10 metres, so passing and skill and touch are to the fore. You can’t run, but a jog to get back in position is fine, and the walking pace is fast walking that is bordering on a jog. Lots of piss taking. And exercise wise, I have a fitbit and I checked my steps before and after, and for the hour I did a little over 11,000 steps. So good exercise too. So laugh away, but I’m a convert. I can’t wait for next Monday already.
    17 points
  5. A return to club football and another very busy period prior to the next international break. In the news this week, FIFpro (the global players' union) and the European Leagues (representing 39 leagues in 33 countries) have brought about a lawsuit against FIFA, arguing that the governing body has prioritised its own events in order to monetise them, while also threatening players and teams who try to pull out. Too many games in the calendar means very little chance for players and coaches to re-energise, and many more games where no-one is at their optimum. While I agree that players are playing too many games these days (it's a much higher level of intensity and there is usually more at stake compared to say the 70s and 80s when some players were also playing a lot of games), it also feels like we've barely played any league games. 7 games out of 38, and we're in mid-October. We welcome the lunatic asylum to Anfield. I think they have more points and goals than signings this time round, but it's hard to tell. It's also hard to tell whether they've return to the median or whether they are outperforming their stats. Under Poch, they did seem to create a lot of chances without converting them. Under their latest head coach Maresca, they have been creating a lot of chances but also converting a lot of them. They've also been quite open in midfield and defence. Their summer transfer activity consisted of trying to force out a lot of their home-grown players to book the whole transfer fee while signing new players on the never-never and only having to book the amortisation for PSR purposes. They also sold the hotel to themselves and tried to sell the women's team to themselves too. The PL and UEFA have actually been wise to the ruse on the whole. Amongst the incomings are Neto from Wolves (injury-prone but dangerous), Felix from Atletico (still yet to show he's the new Kaka), National Trust Estate from Leicester (part of the PSR fiddle than a player they actually needed), plus Sancho on loan from the Mancs (again a player they didn't actually need). Palmer has been their breakout player since the previous summer, far and away their best signing. Cucurella and Fofana both picked up their fifth yellows of the season so miss out through suspension, and they are checking on the fitness of Madueke, Colwill and Chukwuemeka. No idea on the rest. For us, Ali will be missing for the next month at least so we will have Queef between the sticks. He has proved to be more than a capable deputy over the years, and it's understandable that he wants to be a number one. Ali is the clear number one but he's also very injury prone hence why we did the deal for Mamardashvili. We also have Jaros as back-up, who if he was a regular at club level would likely be first choice for his country too. Macca played against Bolivia so his little knock prior to the international break may well have cleared. Mo and Virg got to put their feet up this week, and Curtis returned early from international duty due to the birth of his daughter. The other internationals got a fair bit of game time and chipped in with a fair few goals to boot. That means that as I write, Ali and Harvey are the only absentees. Not heard any updates on Fede's situation. Slot will want to avoid the shitshow against Forest that was the aftermath of our last return to domestic action after an international break. We'll of course need to be wary of Chelsea's attacking threat but we have enough to hurt them like we did last season. It needs the right level of control and intensity, and the substitutions need to have more impact in terms of being effective and not hampering the set-up and putting us needlessly under the cosh. How have our previous managers got on in their first home fixture against Chelsea? It's pretty good on the whole. Souness...05/09/1992...Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea (Saunders, Redknapp) Evans...19/03/1994...Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea (Rush, Burley og) Houllier...16/10/1999...Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea (Thompson) Benitez...01/01/2005...Liverpool 0-1 Chelsea Hodgson...17/11/2010...Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea (Torres 2) Dalglish...08/05/2012...Liverpool 4-1 Chelsea (Essien og, Henderson, Agger, Shelvey) Rodgers...21/04/2013...Liverpool 2-2 Chelsea (Sturridge, Suarez) Klopp...11/05/2016...Liverpool 1-1 Chelsea (Benteke) I don't ask for much. Maximum motivation, control, application, attitude and concentration from minute one. 3 points please. Get it done!
    16 points
  6. Didn't want to put anything on here for a while. Niece's funeral on Thursday, 6 months ago had a lump behind her knee. Biopsy and scan showed it was cancerous and had spread to her lungs and was really aggressive. Spoke to her over a week ago and it had spread to her brain. She was only 20. Absolutely shite.
    16 points
  7. 16 points
  8. Has become a father
    16 points
  9. We’ve only beaten teams below us so far.
    15 points
  10. VID-20231219-WA0028.mp4.220c08e94eac3270f3c079f415b69cb2.mp4
    12 points
  11. Sorry Chris, no. When you’ve shared the City with them for a lifetime listening to the lies about our players, their sad little conspiracy theories, their assumption of the role of the victims of Heysel, the chants of murderers, calling us wall-pushers, feeding the egos of Mancs who chant about burning scousers, and the slowly growing number who think it’s ok to make Hillsborough faces-against-fence gestures, then you can call people out.
    12 points
  12. In regards to Virgil - I'm throwing Sami Hyypia and Jamie Carragher into the conversation. Carragher turned 36 during his final season with us, and Hyypia left a few months before he turned 36. Both absolute defensive legends of the club right up till the end no? Why the reluctance to offer 33 year old Virgil van Dijk a new contract then? He's superior to those 2 in almost every aspect - plus he's got less miles on the clock due to a relatively late start and the year off due to that little cunt over the road. I'll never understand how we've got to this point.
    12 points
  13. I don't think anyone is. People are, quite rightly, laughing at the exaggerated claims of "the best stadium in the country"; expressing scepticism about claims that it will miraculously transform their fortunes: worrying about the impact it will have on local traffic, etc. If I had to sum up a TLW consensus, it would be "fair play to them, it looks alright on the outside and I hope it helps regenerate the area; but it's not going to be the magic bullet that fixes all their problems".
    12 points
  14. Monday Oct 7: New contracts in the pipeline! But not for who we would have thought. Konate and Quansah are being lined up for new deals, with the word from the LFC journos that talks are continuing with the ‘big three’ but no common ground has been found yet, which is really fucking worrying. Richard Hughes has supposedly said it's a really difficult situation he's inherited and that the club are determined not to allow these kind of contract issues to happen again. Mate, you’ve been here five months now, not five minutes. This is as much on you as it is anyone that came before you. Trent is clearly an issue and he may well be using his expiring contract and potential Bosman as leverage to get a better deal, but it's pretty obvious that Virgil would sign a contract tomorrow and is desperate to stay. Mo is giving off those vibes too. None of us really know what the intentions of any of the players are but I don't care too much about that. Bottom line here is Hughes and Edwards are being well paid to do a job that involves solving problems like this. Don't tell me how choppy the water is, dock the fucking boat. In other news, a report emerged today that City had "defeated the Premier League" and shown that the sponsorship rules were illegal or something. Minutes later conflicting reports came out saying the PL were claiming victory. I couldn’t face reading any of it, it’s all so fucking depressing. The initial report, published 25 minutes after a 175 page document was released, came from that fat cunt Martin Samuel. Not only does it take more than 25 minutes to write something like that, it takes hours to read through the relevant parts of a document so clearly this fucking shill was briefed by City beforehand. His son works for them and all he seems to do is write absolute nonsense to justify their cheating. In a profession jam packed with bellends, this fat piece of shit is by far the worst. It’s not even close, the man has no morals, no respect for his profession and no credibility whatsoever. I reckon most of the other journos hate him as there are still plenty who have respect for the profession and see what he’s doing. From what has been reported since, if this were a boxing match then City landed a couple of blows but were otherwise well and truly outboxed and lost on a majority points decision. They were claiming the rules were unfair and not legal, and on a couple of minor points they were proved right which means the wording needs tightening up a little. On all the other points the PL won. Regardless of whether the rules are deemed fair or even legal though, I don’t see how it makes a difference. If City had a problem with the rule, then the solution is to challenge the validity of it and get it overturned, not just fucking ignore it and cheat while everyone else obeys the rule. Absolute fucking cunts. No punishment is severe enough for them and they way they’ve ruined football. Of course Newcastle, Chelsea and Everton all backed them. Chelsea are despicable, vile cunts who are cheating almost as much as City. Newcastle are owned by the Saudi cunts who ruined golf and would love nothing more than to do the same for footy. As for Everton, they’re the worst of the lot, the pathetic sad little cunts. No shame whatsoever. They’ll actually be worse off than anyone if the sponsorship rules are changed.
    12 points
  15. Back to the Champions League this coming midweek, as we travel to face the first of two Bundesliga opponents in our next two European fixtures. We have a 100% record after two games whereas Leipzig have been beaten in both their Champions League fixtures so far, by Atletico Madrid and Juventus. It's still early days to know how decisive a win could be in the overall picture, but a win is what we must look for as, on paper, the two games after this one are our toughest of this league stage. Leverkusen have made a habit of not losing games over the past 12 months or so, and have an even bigger habit of getting goals very late in games. Real Madrid find a way to get the job done even if they've been made to look ordinary in large parts. Leipzig currently sitting joint top and undefeated alongside Bayern in the Bundesliga, having also handed Leverkusen their first league defeat in well over a year. Marco Rose is the coach, and is another one those who preaches a higher intensity attacking game with plenty of pace and pressing. His earlier career had seen him lower down the Red Bull chain at Salzburg, dominating Austrian football. Then he moved to Gladbach where his reputation built up. Then followed a move to Dortmund in 2021. Despite having Haaland banging in the goals, and players like Reus, Bellingham and Malen chipping in with their fair share, Rose couldn't steer Dortmund away from being a team that scores and concedes an awful lot of goals, and finishes in the top 4 a fair distance away from Bayern, so the coach was only there for a year. He moved to Leipzig in 2022. Leipzig are a club with a high turnover of players each year as they can't compete with the big guns on fees and wages. While it is not exactly sportwashing, the Red Bull set-up is an example of a club hierarchy and a competitive advantage gained by having first refusal of players within that hierarchy. And Jurgen has recently signed up to head up the operation, which seems contrary to who and what he is. Maybe such a role isn't something that he's ever seen a problem with, and maybe he would have liked to have a similar role within FSG's set-up. Two issues with that. We got Michael Edwards back for exactly the same role, and FSG haven't yet added any other clubs to the footballing side. We've spent well over £150m signing Naby, Ibou and Dom from Leipzig, and have been tentatively linked with a couple of their current squad too (the likes of Lukeba and Openda, and maybe even Sesko). Reds old boy Gulacsi is still between the sticks for them, and they brought back Simons on loan from PSG. They've added Nusa from Club Brugge as well as Geertruida from Feyenoord, who is obviously a player Slot will be more than familiar with. At one point, I thought we might be looking at him as a Gomez replacement when it looked like Joe might be leaving in the summer. Sesko and Openda are their main goal threats, but they have plenty of options we need to be wary of. No sloppiness. Something more akin to the last 80 minutes or so against AC Milan is what is required here. Ali will be out, and Harvey is still to step up full training. Diogo picked up a rib injury against Chelsea but hopefully it's just bruising and soreness and not a fracture. No idea about Fede but I hope he's available as an option. I would rather we didn't have to go to the well for this game, but at the same time we cannot take it lightly just because the Arsenal game is coming up. Play to get the job done with the minimum of fuss. How have our previous managers got on in their first game against Leipzig? The club in its current guise didn't exist before 2009 after buying the playing rights to another club (SSV Markranstädt), so we have no real history with them. We have met them in the Champions League before though, and due to Covid restrictions, both ties were played at the Puskas Arena in Budapest. Shankly...N/A Paisley...N/A Fagan...N/A Dalglish...N/A Souness...N/A Evans...N/A Houllier...N/A Benitez...N/A Hodgson...N/A Dalglish...N/A Rodgers...N/A Klopp...16/02/2021...CL Round of 16, 1st Leg...RB Leipzig 0-2 Liverpool (Salah, Mane) I don't ask for much. Maximum motivation, control, application, attitude and concentration from minute one. 3 points please. Get it done!
    10 points
  16. Ferguson avoided Old Trafford and showed up at Aberdeen this weekend, which is very on brand I'd say. In fairness though why would you watch them if you're no longer being paid to do so?
    10 points
  17. But Sir Alex? Did you not quit when the Glazers came in, financially exploiting the club and risking its future?
    10 points
  18. He had to draw the line somewhere
    9 points
  19. Here's one of him playing against Pele in the NASL. I showed him this photo and he was just like "oh yeah. Pele, he was a dead nice fella". Like he was some fella he knew from his local.
    9 points
  20. Cole Palmer looks like the simpleton novice sidekick of a detective monk in a medieval murder mystery.
    9 points
  21. They need to take Gary Neville off our matches. That big “ooooohhh” at the end when Chelsea had a chance. Hahahaha. The felt tip muzzied little Manc meff.
    9 points
  22. I'm in my 40s and zero interest in drugs. The grimmest shit I've seen is 50 year old men sniffing coke in a local pubs bogs. They paid all that cash to become a more enhanced version of the utter cunt they are. To each their own but I do think coke is a scourge.
    9 points
  23. I can see you've not spent much time on the GF.
    9 points
  24. Boedean's in Camden Town. Sausages were fucking lovely. Smoked bacon (not usually my preference, but really nice here) and smokey barbecue beans.
    9 points
  25. It's really that simple though isn't it? If we take them out of the team now, would we be better? No. Give them new contracts then. If they start showing signs of being shadows of their former selves, then bring in other members of the squad to replace them. We have that benefit now. And start the search for their eventual successor soon after. Virgil still gives you 8/10 every week. A slight dip in theory to him giving you 9/10 every week from 2019-2021. Hardly a reason to look for a replacement. Konate can regularly serve up a nasty looking 5/10. It's truly baffling that this thread is 7 weeks old and we are no further along. We are, however, now only 11 weeks away from them being able to openly talk to other teams.
    9 points
  26. It’ll take more than pink cocaine and the knowledge that all the cool kids are doing it to make me jump of my current wagon. I’d rather have a biscuit and early night.
    8 points
  27. Excellent listen as usual. I met Paddy this morning in Manchester Airport. Even more handsome up close!
    8 points
  28. Some of our fans are proper ugly bastards.
    8 points
  29. His assistant had to pull him off the pitch at the end. I reckon he was making a beeline for the ref. Baldy agro ello ello
    8 points
  30. I've always been from the ' If you are going to get sent off, get your moneys worth ' school
    8 points
  31. Finished dinner time today so made a lasagna.
    8 points
  32. Funny. I always thought he looked like proper cunt.
    8 points
  33. You’d imagine that it’s now going to be very tough for Spurs to qualify for the Champions League this season.
    8 points
  34. Mane, Gini, Milner and Henderson were all declining - while Ox, Thiago, Keita and Matip were ready for the glue factory. These are undeniable truths. Virgil is one of the best central defenders in world football still, and Mo is consistently producing numbers that players 8 years younger than him can only dream of. Also undeniable truths. They are not regular players. They should not be treated like regular players.
    8 points
  35. So we believe him now when he says they’re having talks but not earlier when he said they hadn’t? The effort some go to defend these owners makes Johnny Cochran look incompetent.
    7 points
  36. Great to see Jocky looking so well again. He visited his old club Partick Thistle yesterday with his brother:
    7 points
  37. None of the supermarkets by me sell Irish soda bread anymore so I decided to have a bash at making it myself. Not bad for my first attempt, and it tastes really good too. Piss easy to make as well, just the clean up afterwards that’s a bit of a pain in the arse.
    7 points
  38. Harry Redknapp on the radio saying Gerrard or Lampard should have got it because managing England is easy.
    7 points



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