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Islamic extremists are no different to FSG - both only in it for the prophet

I can never forgive that cunt. I couldnt see my mother when she was dying in hospital (I know and get I am not the only person) and this cunt was breaking every rule in the book. I hope he dies.

Newcastle becoming successful is inevitable. Utd getting beat is always the preferred option.

I had my suspicions earlier, but this thread confirms that you’ve definitely abducted her.

How are you supposed to separate the legit trans people from the trans-come-latelies is what I don't understand. Maybe some kind of pre-incarceration test. "You're in the showers <cells> you see naked women there. You want to paint your nails and talk pop music <cells interlinked> or do you have a big throbbing cock <interlinked>."

Don't want the Mancs to win anything the horrible death mocking rats. I see Newcastle winning things as inevitable but meaningless in the same way as Man City winning things.

Saturday 3pm kick off again. The last one was an unmitigated disaster. This time we travel to Molineux to face Jorge Mendes’ Wolves. They’ve been more or less the same as last season thus far, not letting too many in but not scoring very many either. Lage had simply carried on from where Nuno Holy Spirit left off, and Lopetegui doesn't set his teams up to take the game to the opposition either. We’ve found them tough to break down on all our recent visits to Wolverhampton. What is required then? Skill. Movement. Obduracy. Knuckling down. Execution. Style. Tempo. Accuracy. Composure. Know-how. Leadership. Intelligence. Guile. Heart. Tenacity. Nerve. Inspiration. Nous. Grit. I don’t ask for much. Last season’s corresponding fixture - also a Saturday 3:00pm kick-off - saw Big Div come up with the goods deep, deep, deep into stoppage time. Diogo had managed to hit a shot right at a defender on the line when a goalkeeping error had him bearing down on goal with practically the entire goal to aim at. That seems to be a thing with us a lot, even during the good times. We spurn an awful lot of chances because the finishing touch is so often lacklustre. Div though? He shrugged off a defender following Mo's cut back - after a delightful long pass from Virg sent the Egyptian past Wolves' left wing-back Ait-Nouri - turned a fired the ball into the net. No messing, and a very welcome 3 points The obvious yesteryear fixture to recall would be the one on 4th May 1976. You could argue that it was a pivotal game in Sir Bob’s reign. He’d taken charge at the beginning of the previous season and went trophy-less as the club got to grips with the post-Shankly era. In 1975/76, QPR were the surprise title challengers, led by Gerry Francis and his evergreen mullet. He was probably born with that haircut as it’s still the same even now. QPR led the table on goal difference as we went into the Wolves game, but had already finished their league campaign so we would win the league as long as we avoided defeat. We weren’t half made to work for it though! Wolves had already been relegated from the top flight but they took the lead when Steve Kinden raced through to slot past Clem in the first half. We were still losing with a quarter of an hour to go so up until that point, QPR were champions. King Kev was having none of it. As Barry Davies said in the commentary, the old firm had done it. A ball played into the box, nodded on by partner in crime Toshack and Keegan was alive to it, collecting the ball and slotting home from a few yards out. The travelling Kop behind the goal went mental, invading the pitch in jubilation. After that, Liverpool simply turned the screw as Wolves wilted. Toshack gathered a flick-on in the area, got his feet sorted out, shielded the ball, turned the defender and rolled it past the keeper to basically confirm the title. The late great Ray Kennedy hammered home the third at the very end and the travelling Kop once again emptied the stand to celebrate on the pitch. Sir Bob would prove he was a force to be reckoned with by leading the side to another UEFA Cup triumph, against Club Brugge to claim a domestic and European double. The rest of the 70s after that are the very definition of the term ‘glory days’. You can see the action from the league finale here from 54:30. The big film in early May 1976 is a gem based on a true story about perhaps the biggest political scandal in 20th century US history. Nixon and Watergate, for those of you who don’t know. Based on the book by the journalists Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post, All The President’s Men was directed by Alan J Pakula and starred Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as the intrepid journos who uncovered the attempt by low level criminals to break into the Democratic National Committee’s base at the Watergate Complex in Washington, on behalf of the Republican Party whose leadership were aware of but attempted to cover up the whole thing. It’s an extremely compelling tale to which the likes of which the more recent Spotlight owe a debt for showcasing that you can still make an engrossing film based on real-life events where it’s all about plot and dialogue over showy bits. Films likes JFK, while brilliant, are more the latter. I’ve often wondered why the Republicans went to such lengths when at the time, Vietnam aside, the US was doing pretty well, Nixon was still popular and the Democrats had the equivalent of Ed Milliband as their spearhead. Not a guy that’s going to win over the voters. We go to Wolves still looking for that chink of light, that little glimmer to suggest that the current malaise is fleeting. So poor have we been this season, we are an absolute mile off the top 4 at the halfway stage. Practically all the teams around us have bolstered their squads in the January window (Chelsea spent the GDP of a west African nation in January alone), while we signed a player in Cody who, although he may come good, might not have been signed at all were it not for long-term injuries to Diogo, Lucho and Bobby (that one reeks of "'Tis but a scratch") decimating Jürgen's attacking options. I've been saying it for ages now, but we need a performance and result that provides a real morale boost. Not just a slog to a narrow victory, but something that shows we are not dead. If you completely write off a season in these circumstances, and from a position where you do not have a clear advantage over everyone else in other areas, then it could be a very long road back. Show us what you're made of, Reds.

I dropped in on the UCU LJMU picket line this morning (with some choccies from our Branch). I could have gone to any picket, really, but this one was on my bus route.

How the fuck is consciousness a thing. How can a star explode and all the ingredients born in its fire slowly come together to make a human being that thinks "what the fuck is all this shit", how do we go from being stardust to working 40 hours a week and putting up with gobshites. None of it makes sense.

There aren't many other current conflicts that we helped to start, help to prop up, and see such an enormous difference in power (and this difference has been sustained) between the oppressed and the oppressor. An oppressor which has a powerful lobbying group within the UK which even members of the main left wing party appear to feel under pressure to pander to. It really isn't all that surprising that many people on the left feel like it is a cause which deserves attention. The "opponent" is a nuclear super power backed by the world's most powerful country. There is also a feeling, rightly or wrongly, that such a sophisticated, technologically advanced country, should have many of the same values as other sophisticated, technologically advanced countries. Rather than having a government from a dystopian novel, and a military shooting children on the beach.

If the question is why do we speak about one more than the other, it's because very few people defend the others nations. There's not much to debate. We just already all agree. Russia has taken up way more characters on this forum recently, and it's mostly because of disagreement. I mean, you give me a good argument in support of ethnic violence in Sudan and we'll have a good ol' rumble about it I'm sure.

The halcyon days when a PM was asked a question and then the PM would respond with some sort of answer or on-topic response. If Sunak was there, his answer would be 'you're literally Jeremy Corbyn'.

Fuck that its the longest spell that the Mancs have gone without a trophy long may it continue. I don't want them fuckers to win a throw in let alone a trophy. Howay the Lads!

I thought that before the foul.

Typical Bowie, self-depracating and humble

He will start score goals again now. The calendar curse is over.

Chomsky makes a strong point about criticism of conflicts your own country is either involved in or in some way supports or fuels. That’s true of the occupied territories. Britain played a prominent role in this as does the US, and that alone is enough reason for special interest to be taken inside these countries, that’s without even having to talk about the geopolitical importance of the conflict. I don’t hold Israel to a higher standard because they’re more technologically advanced, they’re more advanced because they keep the ‘other side’ in a box. I hold them to international law and norms. I do that for all countries. And look, Israel exists now. There’s no ‘denying’ their right to continue to do so. Nor should there be, they deserve security and prosperity as much as anyone else. What they can’t do without condemnation is to act the way they’ve acted and conduct themselves on the international stage the way they have without condemnation. I do find it strange that quite often, mostly from the centre to the right, you speak out about Saudi and their oppressions, you get grumbles of agreement ‘oh yes, terrible stuff’, you call out Russia and we agree that it’s terrible, you talk about the plight of the Palestinians and the actions of Israel and the first instinct is to deflect, to ask questions about other conflicts. We can ask ourselves questions on the left about why we care so much, but the right could genuinely ask themselves why they’re less bothered by it than they are about other conflicts.

I agree that the ultra-religious ultra-nationalists in that documentary are racists, and an impediment to peace.

Same here Me dad was in hosi then a care home and those cunts were having piss ups every week. And every twat you pops up and says 'it was just a piece of cake can get to fuck aswell I've genuinely never despised another person in my life as much as that fat lying charlatan

You said that you don’t think the focus on Israel is because of antisemitism? I missed that, apologies if you said that. It very much feels like that’s what you’re alluding to.

I mean, there’s been some decent explanations in this thread, yet you keep intimating that it’s because of antisemitism… why?

He's a sharp guy but I've got no time for these ex Tories. They suddenly become affable when a living needs to be earned, such as when they step down as an MP of get booted by the daily mail. They suddenly become straight talking eccentrics with a passion for British railways. Presumably though they were all present and correct in the 80s and still regard Thatcher the way I regard William Shatner. The road to Damascus is paved with Good Morning Britain gigs and book deals.

With the wealth of stories about the police lately, it will probably be the PC's name who did it.

Len McCluskey blames the CIA for Labour's election defeat in 2019, and Starmer is a puppet (of the Archons?).

The couple of things I’ve read and seen of Dyche in the last few days make crystal the difference between him and the chancer he’s replaced. Shame they didn’t stick with fatty just that bit longer as he would have only led them further and further adrift. Dyche is going to get them well-drilled and at least competitive in matches pretty quickly.

Fare thee thell thelwell fell well.

Parliament was founded as a way for the very wealthy to negotiate with the Monarchy while ordinary people had no representation at all and were insignificant. Parliament only contained the tories and the whigs(liberals.) Two rich sets of people. The Liberals had some social conscience for the poor,but not too much. This went on for,I'm not sure how long,about a century or so,before workers formed unions to protect them from poor wages and death and illness at work. From the trades unions came the formation of the labour party from ordinary people to give them a voice in Parliament. Pretty much anything you now benefit from as an ordinary person is because of laws created by the Labour Party,NHS,better working conditions,shorter hours,because the trades unions sponsored Labour MPs to put their needs forward. It was hard fought. The Tories are rich cunts with little conscience while the Labour Party were just ordinary people's voices being put into action through laws,now they have lots of rich cunts too. The Liberals are somewhere in the middle. Politics for toddlers 101.

Im not sure there is an actual genuine football scenario at all that could lead me to wanting United to win a game.

Sickening.

I walked away from attending games but still watch every game on telly and online. I chose to walk away from attending because of,obviously like many others price was a consideration,but also the game has changed into something I dont recognise nor like very much. I feel no connection with the club or players and I completely expect most of them to feel similar in terms of it being a job or career with many benefits. It's obviously now stacked in favour of money clubs and is just a business from top to bottom in a way it has never been before. The forming of the PL was the beginning of the end for me. I remember the building of the all seater Kop and its original 'it will only be a tenner' headlines and look at those prices now! The game is bent and every decision is made by a marketing agency to benefit income and not by people with a true love of the game.

I agree with this. It won't be 100,000s of fans turning their backs overnight, it'd be a drip drip. I would never ever miss a single Liverpool match that was on telly (and with us having televised 3pm Saturday kick offs in Ireland, Liverpool were on pretty much every week) but as a result of having young kids, I now miss a lot of matches. I'm standing on the sidelines at an under 6s GAA thing or at swimming lessons or whatever when Liverpool are playing. And whereas a few years ago that annoyed me, now I don't care. If we end up owned by someone like Saudi, then I'll have no problem turning my back almost completely. I'll always check the score and will have a pang of happiness when we win or a pang of sadness when we lose, but that has significantly diminished in recent years as I see the game get more and more into the realms of the absurd, and I now don't think it'd be too difficult to leave it all behind, A horrible state owned sportswashing circus that is throwing hundreds of millions at it just for fun would make it very easy for me to jib it off once and for all.

The simple fact is that it is a very important geopolitical situation that marks it out as a special interest for politically minded folk, and there are utterly horrific crimes being inflicted on the Palestinians. There's a dreadful sense of injustice there, and left wing people tend to be higher in empathy in my experience. Trying to make it a league table of concern is, well, a little belittling. There's a small part of the Labour party and Labour members who give it more interest than others (who says anybody has to take equal interest, anyway?). Others, however, are concerned about many issues. It's certainly not a Labour thing, it's the left in general who seem to care about the plight of the Palestinians. I guess the same thing could be asked the other way around, why do you think hawkish, right wing types are so interested in Israel? It's not because the heartfelt love for Jews, I'll tell you that much. As for the question, 'is it the worst regime in the world', the answer is no. I have made it clear on here several times that I think that's Saudi Arabia, but Israel certainly commits some of the worst acts a regime can undertake though.

Maybe because it’s not just about the body count? Maybe because it’s been going on since the 1940s? Maybe because there are still breaches of international law and land grabs being committed, all with very little accountability? Maybe because of people being forced to live in what many have described as an “open air prison” where most aspects of daily life are controlled, with a permit needed for this and that, restricted movement, checkpoints etc? Maybe because a lot of these other murderous states are held to account for their actions, whereas Israeli state murder is often committed with the tacit or express approval of the US/UK/western governments? Maybe it’s the apartheid measures applied, be they in freedom of movement, access to healthcare, the administration of justice, statehood etc? Maybe it’s the Israeli governments historic and contemporary disregard for the rule of law and their preference for extrajudicial executions both in Israel and other countries instead? Or maybe it’s the Nakba, the Deir Yassin massacre or acquiescence during the Sabra and Shatila massacres? Or, maybe, particularly if you’re a bit of an ignoramus of all of the above things, it’s because of “tHe jEwS!”

Just been reading Leicester City's owner has pumped over £194m into the club to wipe out all its debt. This is the 2nd time the club's owners have done this in the last 10 years or so when they paid off a previous £100m of debt. Apparently, there's no FFP implications for doing this which I find incredible. They were supposedly in danger of breaching the PL's laughably lax FFP rules but now, are ok because the owner pumped in nearly £200m to wipe the slate clean for a 2nd time. No doubt Boehly will do the same within the next 2 or 3 years to paid down some of chelsea's debt making sure the club is within both the PL and UEFA's FFP. A total and utter farce. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11700895/Leicester-City-chairman-relieves-Foxes-staggering-194MILLION-debt-owed.html

Loads of us saw this coming. Was so fucking obvious

A short stop to I think

Pretending you weren't referring to antisemitism here is an odd move. Although intimidating that it is about antisemitism while quoting my post, a post that gave you a different reason, was also an odd move. Just trolling I guess.

It’s like UHT milk, there’s not much demand for it because it’s shite

I saw this recently. Like you I don't know how much is truth, maybe it's a bit of a mixture of both takes :

They're boss Led by Donkeys.

Bloody left wing woke brigade. Corbyn and the EU brought all this on, oh look Meghan's strangling a baby with her 14k belt that Camilla paid for burn her!!!!!

Pearce can fuck off the blert. Calls them out after the window shuts. Honestly can't be arsed listening to the excuses and sob stories coming out of the club. 3rd highest turnover in world football and we get out spent by everyone. Roll on the summer when the disappointment repeats itself.

Fixed.

They Saudis need to make a statement and back Nagelsmann big time.

If it is lets hope they do better than Blair's lot who avoided any help to the 96 (97). Dishonourable mentions to Jack Straw and George Howarth.

The thing about dying, is you're just dead. You're not in the sky, you're not in the ground, you're not in a box; you're not anywhere. Anybody looking for you in those places isn't going to find you. When an artist dies, you can find them in their works. When a non-achiever like me or Elizabeth Windsor dies, there's nothing left except the memories of the people who actually knew us.