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I fucking HATE Guardiola. The man is a whining, entitled, silver spoon pussy. He's football's equivalent of Jacob Rees-Mogg. It's very easy to 've magnanimous when you've got incredible wealth and you're coasting to big victories every week but his mask slips when he comes under even a little pressure. At Barca he inherited Rijkaard's team and was in the right place at the right time to benefit from Messi's emergence. Then he goes to Germany, to Bayern, who are head and shoulders already the best team, again rolling in cash. And now City, the richest oil cunts in the history of football. Some people have this fortunate fucking shithouse up on a pedestal. Not me, I detest the man, he hasn't got a thousandth of the humility or the class which Jurgen has, nor is he a fraction of the manager. Fuck off Josep you soft fucking rich boy fucking shithouse bluffing cunt.

Your brekky looks like that Gonzo lad from The Muppets.

I lost a job through TLW 'You sit at that computer all day and don't do anything'. Fair cop

Bought the Echo for the first time in ages yesterday and it just dawned on me how much I'm fed up of being aware of their existence. Sharing a city with this absolute sporting flotsam but still having to be made privy to their every tedious failing. Every other page I had to flick past their shit, and the fucking colour blue. The headline for their beating by Leicester was 'first day nerves'. It's like having a brother who's a complete fucking bum, and you come home from a night shift to find he's broken his leg trying unsuccessfully to break into B&M. You're like 'I don't want to eat my breakfast looking at his fucking boat' but your mum is like 'oh come on you know he's a bit simple'.

There were of course rumours earlier that Andy Robertson would miss tonight's game as his wife is in labour, and that Moreno would have taken his place. Personally I'd have had no problem with that - all Moreno had to do was hold her hand and avoid knocking the equipment over.

Can we send Milner to Mrs. Robertson instead? He will calm everyone down and be fully in control, whilst Robbo would just run around excitedly.

I have no problem with your pessimism. I am very cautious. However I wanna address this thing about the slip costing us the league. IT DIDN”T! It’s lazy journalists and rival fans that spout that shit. Hendo”s red against City was a major disruption to our consistency. The tactics against City and Palace are equally to blame. The tactics employed by the manager against a Chelsea team who came for draw were naive. Also we concede two against Chelsea. The result at WBA. It goes on. One slip didn’t cost us the league.

Lets put it into perspective - We have played 21 games including our nearest runner both home and away and are leading the league by 4 points. Sure we haven't won the league at Xmas etc, but not one of us would ever have dreamt to be in this position. We are a good team. We may not win the league, but we'll give City a good run for it.

Fuck it. Hard to be too angry because even a week before Christmas I'd have bit your hand off if you'd offered me being 4 points clear on the other side of the City game. That midfield is what really fucked us, I have no idea what Klopp thinks three meat and potatoes mids give us but it negates the best part of his side; playing on the front foot and keeping the pressure on, whilst simultaneously failing to stifle the opposition which I have to assume is the intention. It's especially amazing when you consider City have wobbled when teams have got at them which is what I assumed we'd do. Lovren is a waste of space though. I'd rather see VVD with a tailor's dummy on wheels attached to his waist than watch that dismal fucker doze off for three seconds at a time, I mean does he have fucking narcolepsy or what? There are days when life is beautiful, then I remember that he plays for us and I'm like Johnny Nice Painter from The Fast Show. I can't stand the sight of the fucker. He's under contract until 2021 and if I won the lottery I'd pay it up myself. He's an accident waiting to happen.

Disaster, end of the world, they’re all shite, sack the manager etc. Every single person on this site would have bitten their arm of for our position now in mid August. Re-group and make this the exception not the rule.

Not ideal, but the amount of screaming queens in here is borderline farcical. We've been unbeaten until the beginning of January, only losing that record at the home of the champions. Calm the fuck down.

Damn Good game from two excellent sides. Came down to small margins - unfortunately the quality of finishing from Aguero and Sane. Still four points clear

As I say, speak for yourself. I didn't want them to win, I still don't, but there's no way I'd be like how these blue bellends are, where the outcome of this game is more important to them than either of the competing teams.

Pearce says he’s in the squad. He’s Scottish. Like all Scottish newborns the baby will be sent alone into the Highland wilderness, armed only with a bone knife, to prove its worth against the local wildlife. That frees him up for the game.

I got my job of the last eight and a half years directly through TLW.

The worst case scenario is we end the day only four points clear at the top of the table. Drink that in for a moment.

We will both drop points between now and the end of the season. I'd have pushed a war widow down a flight of stairs for a four point lead and only one loss after 21 games.

Win, lose or draw tonight I remain completely optimistic. I have complete faith in Jurgen and a belief in our squad which I can truthfully say I've not felt for decades. Very proud of our lads, win, lose or draw. But we can win tonight, we can win it all tonight.

Counting down the days to death with delight rather than horror.

Looking forward to @3 Stacks list of 15 Young Studs To Watch Out For In 2019 (Number 4 Will Shock You!)

Nearly at 10 pages 24 hours before kick-off. Shit is getting real, my friends.

Fuck City and fuck Guardiola the baldy headed in awe of Klopp cunt. We're going to win 3-1.

Not too fussed, we were gonna lose one at some point, might as well be Vs the only team in the league that is on our level, nothing to be ashamed of. We played well, it was a game decided by fractions of measurements, if this or that was an inch either way then we might have won. Lovren is Lovren, he's a backup CB, Gomez will be back soon so we won't have to worry about it for a while. Overall I enjoy playing city, they usually actually play football, but our two games vs them this season have been the most defensive I've ever seen them or Guardiola play, 11 men on the line at times trying to hoof it away. Only we can make them play like that the shit bags. The game vs arsenal might have took a bit out of us, I know we battered them but they are a good team and we had to work for it to do that, might be why some of our starters weren't quite at their best, and why others only came on as subs. Ideally I would have liked the arsenal line-up again. Still top by a clear margin, still in our hands, still playing good football. Hopefully Klopp and the lads learn from this and use it to push us even harder. Ps. Fuck Henderson off, a big game like that needs an inspiring leader, he was devoid of any passion whatsoever. Compare him to how Kompany and Virgil were acting. It's night and day.

Can't win these games with nine players. A championship standard centre back and a central midfielder hiding for 90 minutes. They needed fucking off years ago and they still do. Depressing stuff. Just completely unnecessary. It's not like City put six past us. We're really fucking good. Alisson and VVD are immense, yet we've handicapped ourselves by playing two players that should be at fucking West Ham.

Fuck me, there are some hysterical fannies in here.

Keep calm lads. We're well in this still.

Wouldn't get too worked up about the city fans, you have to remember they're not used to big games and are only repeating what they've seen on telly over the last few decades. It's like if you took a cocker spaniel to the opera, you can't be surprised if it pisses on the curtain.

I love and hate games like this in equal measure. I'll be shaking like a shitting dog all game, even if we are 5-0 up.

I think that should end with "but they are consumed by petty parochialism."

Happy New Year everybody, 2019 here we go. Review : Raw Power by Iggy Pop and The Stooges Never been a huge fan of The Stooges tbh, although the one time I did see them live I remember I really enjoyed them. Anyway... [presses play] Search & Destroy - Right off the mix is raw (and fucking awful), Iggy's vocals are clear enough but the drums are almost inaudible. Okay, but what a great song ! Great chorus, great (Ron Asheton?) solo. Bowie mate, what's going on ?! Great start to the album, Search & Destroy is full of colour and energy, catchy as fuck. Gimme Danger opens with a nice acoustic guitar and a barely audible tambourine panned hard right. Iggy sounding very Jim Morrison. Gimme Danger picks up the pace slightly about halfway through, but still very Doorsy, which is alright by me. 2/2 so far. Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell screeches in with high octane and burning rubber and another great rock n roll riff. Iggy sounding throaty, gritty and up for business. More nice guitar work, a real stomper, great live I bet. Keeping the run going. Good stuff. Note: I can hardly make out a single word which Iggy is singing due entirely to the awful recording and mixing. Penetration goes in balls deep, another good riff, vocal again extremely high in the mix and I can make out the lyric here. Iggy sounds deranged and completely fucking crackers tbh. Is that a xylophone I can hear ascending throughout the chorus? Another tick in the box. 4/4 so far. Raw Power shoves it's way in with another big dirty guitar riff and some keys (or is it someone with a drumstick and a beer bottle?). "Raw Power baby just won't quit, Raw Power I can feel it." Feeling it too Iggy lad, I could very easily get down to this live in some sweaty dive bar. Filthy guitar sound with some amp break up keeps this roll going. Best song yet ? I Need Somebody plods in, noticeably slower and more considered. Some nice acoustic jangle accompany the patented Iggy Pop drawl. Drums like biscuit tins, the record does sound fucking awful (reckon they spent the production budget on smack?), but the songs are full of life and attitude and energy, bringing a smile. Another great song. Shake Appeal has a shuffling riff, hand claps a-go-go. Iggy screams his lyrics from his throat, the killer rock n roll solo doesn't last nearly long enough for me. Weakest song yet imo. Death Trip sounds like the production has gone back in time inside of a biscuit tin, "Sick boy, sick boy, going round, losing my grip", so I'm guessing Irvine Welsh drew inspiration from Death Trip en route tae the scheme? Nice riff again, worth the effort to pick them out. Vocals again have that Doorsy feel. Fades out with a bastard of a solo. Okay then, feelings? Raw Power is clearly a set of songs which were intended to be listened to in a live setting, written and performed with an infectious energy which doesn't always translate to listening to them on your living room hifi. Understandably The Stooges needed to get their songs out there, to a wider audience, but fucking hell Bowie lad. Not sure what else to say. This album sounds outrageous, raw as sin, like ramming a rusty pipe up a stray cat's arsehole. The songs though were (mostly) excellent, full of youthful vigour and infectious energy, overflowing with piss and vinegar. There's loads of soul here. Take it or leave it. It's an 8 from me Clive.

'cunt them in the bastard' is another favourite.

An away win would be amazing, as would a draw, really. A defeat wouldn’t be terrible, proving it isn’t a hiding. I’ll be watching Emmerdale and old Easties on UKTV Play. Got the Dempsey and Makepeace DVD boxset for Christmas, too.

You ok hun xxx

Still got this bloody multiple sclerosis. It’s proving a right pain to shake off.

They've played some average sides and Pogba is playing for a move. I don't like seeing them win but if he gets a summer transfer kitty out of it and spends a quarter of a billion pounds on Jamie Vardy then it's all grist to the mill. The best thing about the mancs is that they believe their own bullshit. They'll start to think it's destiny and that he'd a product of their own bootroom (which they've never really had) but in actual fact he's a proven premiership failure. They're incapable as a club of doing things for pragmatic, dispassionate reasons, everything has to have a story or be for show - that's why they keep buying big name players they don't need. As long as that's the culture of the club, they're fucked.

Let's have it you citeh twats. Sterling is a massive twat and knobhead Pepsi Guardihoolahoop can shine it and fuck off. Fuck being scared. Time to smash their dreams.

Daniel Sturridge has learnt a lot over his football career, however his most valuable lesson would have been in the last 12 months when he realised that the grass is not always greener on the other side. In a football sense, the striker was in no-mans-land at this point of the season last year.As a player who had a great deal of confidence in his ability, Sturridge felt a change of scenery would help kickstart a career well and truly at the crossroads.The English international still had ambitions of being named in Gareth Southgate's World Cup squad, and with starting opportunities very limited at the Reds, felt the time was right to venture out on loan to West Brom.It is fair to say that the move turned into a nightmare.The 29 year-old who has had a catalogue of injuries in recent years, struggled to make it out onto the pitch for the Baggies, only making six appearances and failing to find the back of the net for the relegated Midlands side.Widely seen as a certainty to be sold in the summer, Jurgen Klopp had other ideas, giving him another chance to prove himself.Sturridge is someone whose body language is a tell tale sign of where his game is at.The smiling, happy dancing figure constantly seen in his early days at the Reds, was replaced by a rather sad figure who it seemed did not enjoy being at the club.However, knowing that he was still part of the managers' plans despite all what had transpired, Sturridge's change of attitude was evident from the pre-season. A fitter, leaner Sturridge was desperate to prove the doubters wrong.The smile and mojo was back, and so it proved on the pitch, scoring a goal in the first league game of the season against West Ham.He has added three since including one of the goals of the season against Chelsea which preserved Liverpool's unbeaten record and could yet prove to be a vital point come May.While he hasn't scored since that cracker at Stanford Bridge at the end of September, Sturridge has maintained a presence around the squad and importantly played a role when called upon.For that reason, it is believed that the club are thinking about offering Sturridge a new deal when his current one ends at the end of the season.The Mail reports that Sturridge has attracted interest from some top clubs in Europe including Sevilla and AC Milan along with big spending clubs in the Chinese Super League.However both parties have no thoughts of parting during the January transfer window with Sturridge determined to play his role in helping the Reds claim a long awaited league title.Barring a spate of injuries to the front three, the days of Sturridge being a consistent starter at the club are over.However, a key element of having a strong and successful squad is making sure everyone is on the same page and willing to play a role.If he can be happy in that role and continue to contribute valuable minutes while managing to stay fit, then a new deal is a smart bit of business for all concerned. View full article

Sat here, glass half empty, rolling up bogeys and flicking them into the fire. My life fucking sucks..

We've already had four losses in the League Cup and CL. I don't think our biggest test is going to be this game. We did reasonably well I thought, they were just marginally better than us on the night. The real challenge is going to be how we react to this result.

...and to be clear since I've just eviscerated Lovren, 'absolute dogshit' is a bit stronger than I would have gone for but yes, TAA was poor tonight. I think he gets more of a break because he's a young lad, very talented but still learning and he's at a point where he's not going to learn how to defend against players like Aguero by hacking his way through a season on loan somewhere, plus we'd need to get a right back in because I don't want to see Gomez playing there as long as Lovren has a contract with us. Lovren though is 29 with 50 international caps. What's his excuse? Apart from being absolute dogshit I mean.

1 They had ALL the luck with the woodwork 2 They should have had Kompany, Sane and that snide fucking shithouse Bernardo Silvia sent off 3 Guardiola is a whining fucking pussy 4 THE REFEREE AND LINESMEN ARE FUCKING CHEATS 5 Our midfield 3 of Henderson, Gini and Milner just weren't fucking good enough last season, and they certainly aren't this. We bought Fabinho, Shaq and Keita for big money, time to play them Jurgen. AND FUCK OFF CITY FUCKING CUNTS

These matches gives us a few answers. For instance, this shit people are spouting that players like Lovren and Henderson are actually good should be gone now. Neither are good enough. Lovren looked like a pub player at times, almost gifting City 2 (additional) goals in 5 seconds late in the second half. Henderson lost the ball and couldn't win it back, usually. Once he managed to find a team mate with it he was almost without exception behind him in the pitch. There's no crisis, we lost our first game of the season away against the best team in the league apart from us. But hopefully Gomez and Matip comes back sooner than expected.

Atrocious. Our last remaining weak point. Sure, Van Dijk can make him look half-decent against Bournemouth or Cardiff but put him under some pressure with attackers who are quick and have intelligent movement and he's a massive liability. City's whole defensive gameplan tonight was to make him be the one distributing the ball. They covered up everyone else and just stood off him and dared him to do something. Which was usually just passing the ball to one of their players. That is, when he wasn't playing them onside or just standing off them in the box. Liability.

Just popping back in the thread to call Martin Tyler a cunt

Poached eggs on cheese on toast > scrambled eggs on toast.

Fair enough. Had a good year holiday-wise in 2018 - a week in Crete in the Easter holiday, a week in Devon in the May half-term, then an epic two and a half week road trip in the summer holidays totalling almost 3,000 miles. The latter entailed driving down through France to go to a friend’s wedding in Spain (between Valencia and Alicante) and then a week camping in France on the way back up, also incorporating a stopover in Andorra and a spectacular drive over the Pyrenees… Finally, a long weekend in Trearddur Bay on Anglesey over the late summer bank holiday. This year isn’t going to be quite so holiday filled, but having found that the drive down to Spain wasn’t too taxing we are currently giving serious consideration to driving down to Croatia for a fortnight’s camping…

I can’t stand the media fawning over this gimp. He keeps saying all the right things though - he’s still referring to Fergie as ‘the gaffer’ though which I’m sure their fans are loving.

Might actually start a thread and do this. Few things get me more pumped than talking about some young studs.

In the context of the heavyweight division, Haye vs Bellew in 2018 was more like Everton vs Everton.

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