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On 13/11/2019 at 10:04, an tha said:

Ferguson's season by season figures for the bitters - no sniggering now, lads....

 

All comps.

 

94-95: Pl 28 Gls 8

 

95-96: Pl 20 Gls 7

 

96-97: Pl 36 Gls 11

 

97-98: Pl 32 Gls 11

 

98-99: Pl 17 Gls 5

 

00-01: Pl 13 Gls 6

 

01-02: Pl 25 Gls 8

 

02-03: Pl 8 Gls 0

 

03-04: Pl 24 Gls 9

 

04-05: Pl 37 Gls 6

 

05-06: Pl 33 Gls 1

 

That's right, folks - this legend reached double figures in a season TWICE for them in over 10 years. His best return in a season was 11....and in total in all comps for them he scored 72 goals in 273 games.

 

 

 

It's a similar strike rate to Dirk kuyt and he played just about all his time with us on the right of midfield!

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10 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

It's a similar strike rate to Dirk kuyt and he played just about all his time with us on the right of midfield!

A bloo could argue there's not much difference between right of midfield and just ahead of midfield. 

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13 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Danny Murphy generally talks a fair amount of drivel but I had to agree with him on this;

 

"First thing I would say, I like Tom, I think he's a good player and I think he can go onto to do good things, but he is nowhere near and will never be anywhere near Steven Gerrard. 

"You cannot turn a Caterpillar into an Owl. You can turn it into a Butterfly, so he's going to get better. When Stevie was 19, 20 and coming into the team, he was looking like a star. He was quick, strong aggressive and scoring wonder goals. 

"I think he's a terrific talent who can get much better, I'm not having a go at him. When you know football and you see a player there's only so much involvement a player can have. Based on his physical characteristics and his technical ability. He's not as quick as Stevie, he's not as technically as good, he's not as good a passer, he's not as good in the air. 

"He's not going to drag Everton to a Champions League final, is he? Or score in a UEFA Cup final for Everton. Or score the winner in an FA Cup final. Everton, Premier League title? What have you been smoking? When Everton win the Premier League, I'll be six feet under."

While I agree Davies doesn't look like a Gerrard in the making Stevie was far from prolific when he was younger. I just checked back and at the point he turned 20 he'd scored once in over 40 appearances.

 

Young Gerrard was tough, combatitive, skillful and rough round the edges as you'd expect from a young player. He only really became the player he did consistently when he was a bit more experienced and when Rafa came in and gave him more freedom to go forward.

 

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When Gerrard was 14 he was playing Junior Football for a team called Denburn (I think) in Liverpool. The club I was involved with had an “agreement” at that age group, that some of Denburns lads would play for us in Cup competitions on Sundays, and some of ours would play for them on Saturdays.

I remember seeing this gangly lad turn up and then take this one game by the scruff of the neck, score a couple of screamers, then come off with ten minutes left, job done.

There were other lads playing who also went on to play for league clubs, Jason Koumas being one, but Gerrard stood out.

Conversations were of the “Who the fuck is he?” type.

Shortly after, the FA stopped kids associated with professional clubs playing two or sometimes three games in a weekend, which was a good thing really, so we didn’t get to see much more of him but everyone knew who he was.

I don’t think many professional players, let alone Tom Davies, will ever be as good as him.

 

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6 minutes ago, coachpotato said:

 

I don’t think many professional players, let alone Tom Davies, will ever be as good as him.

 

In a nutshell.

 

when you’re one of the very best to have ever played for a club as successful as us, it’s fair to say you’re pretty special.

 

Stevie can’t be a measuring stick for young players. They’ll never measure up.

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2 hours ago, coachpotato said:

When Gerrard was 14 he was playing Junior Football for a team called Denburn (I think) in Liverpool. The club I was involved with had an “agreement” at that age group, that some of Denburns lads would play for us in Cup competitions on Sundays, and some of ours would play for them on Saturdays.

I remember seeing this gangly lad turn up and then take this one game by the scruff of the neck, score a couple of screamers, then come off with ten minutes left, job done.

There were other lads playing who also went on to play for league clubs, Jason Koumas being one, but Gerrard stood out.

Conversations were of the “Who the fuck is he?” type.

Shortly after, the FA stopped kids associated with professional clubs playing two or sometimes three games in a weekend, which was a good thing really, so we didn’t get to see much more of him but everyone knew who he was.

I don’t think many professional players, let alone Tom Davies, will ever be as good as him.

 


 

A young lad used to play with us, if we were short, he’d help us out. He wasn’t supposed to as he was with our School of Excellence. My god, playing against someone with a god given talent like that. Wow. You think you’ve played with some good players and then you play with someone that has actually got ‘it’, I’ve played with and against players that have went on to have careers in the game, Marsh, Stubbs, Paul Cook, they were all very good players. But when you play with someone that has World Class potential, It takes your breath away. 

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7 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Duncan Ferguson: more prolific than some midfielders.

You can't even say in a better team he would have scored more because in a better team he would have been on the bench. 

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52 minutes ago, magicrat said:

You can't even say in a better team he would have scored more because in a better team he would have been on the bench. 

He went to a better team and did next to fuck all and then the blues welcomed him back with open arms.

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1 minute ago, manwiththestick said:

He went to a better team and did next to fuck all and then the blues welcomed him back with open arms.

Horrible bloke, shit footballer and as a role model Everton and him deserved each other.  

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Sky reporting Moise Kean's father saying his transfer to Everton was a huge mistake. That's going to go down well with that ever so faithful lot. 

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5 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Sky reporting Moise Kean's father saying his transfer to Everton was a huge mistake. That's going to go down well with that ever so faithful lot. 

But he's the best young striker in the whole world 

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6 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Sky reporting Moise Kean's father saying his transfer to Everton was a huge mistake. That's going to go down well with that ever so faithful lot. 

If you are getting a lot of attention, and want to drop off the radar for a couple of years, it's actually a perfect move. And the start of a great pub question: 'whatever happened to...'

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1 minute ago, Tj hooker said:

But he's the best young striker in the whole world 

 

He'll be as good as Cenk Tosun when he grows up. 

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I have a nice chuckle when I think of the Money Everton have spunked and look at their forwards. 

 

Kean could come good, but not at Everton where he'll become a whipping boy for their frustrations because they don't have any decent strikers to ease the lad in.

 

Tosun is fucking wank, and I said as much when fat Sam lashed out crazy money on him. He was wank at Frankfurt before being fucked off to Turkey. 

 

Niasse is also wank, couldn't even score for Cardiff whilst out on loan.

 

Iwobi is wank, in fact he is that wank they pretend he's a midfielder and shove him out wide left. 

 

Walcott has been dead for years. 

 

Calvert-Lewin, Ok they only paid a few million for this lad, but he isn't even worth that. 

 

 

The only decent forward they have is Richarlison, plus he only looks good when playing in a deeper role, he's wank as a forward. 

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14 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

I have a nice chuckle when I think of the Money Everton have spunked and look at their forwards. 

 

Kean could come good, but not at Everton where he'll become a whipping boy for their frustrations because they don't have any decent strikers to ease the lad in.

 

Tosun is fucking wank, and I said as much when fat Sam lashed out crazy money on him. He was wank at Frankfurt before being fucked off to Turkey. 

 

Niasse is also wank, couldn't even score for Cardiff whilst out on loan.

 

Iwobi is wank, in fact he is that wank they pretend he's a midfielder and shove him out wide left. 

 

Walcott has been dead for years. 

 

Calvert-Lewin, Ok they only paid a few million for this lad, but he isn't even worth that. 

 

 

The only decent forward they have is Richarlison, plus he only looks good when playing in a deeper role, he's wank as a forward. 


Niasse is a great player, it was the Premier League that fucked him, they are corrupt as fuck and have it in for Everton because they are the RS rivals. Any chance all the RS officials have a chance of fucking Everton over they’ll take it. Niasse got banned for diving when there was blatant contact, that was the beginning of the end. He can’t be arsed playing in a League with such corruption and is just happy to take the money. So many dives go unpunished yet, they picked on him. Hate what his game has become, the RS media, the RS officials giving all the decisions in their favour. They won the European Carabao Cup with a dodgy handball, GKs throwing the ball in their own net, last minute goals. The City game last week. The club of the establishment and it all gets swept under the carpet like nothing has happened. 
 

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2 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:


Niasse is a great player
 

Use his full name, Oumar "proven cheat" Niasse.

 

Mr "successful deception of a match official" himself.

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7 hours ago, coachpotato said:

When Gerrard was 14 he was playing Junior Football for a team called Denburn (I think) in Liverpool. The club I was involved with had an “agreement” at that age group, that some of Denburns lads would play for us in Cup competitions on Sundays, and some of ours would play for them on Saturdays.

I remember seeing this gangly lad turn up and then take this one game by the scruff of the neck, score a couple of screamers, then come off with ten minutes left, job done.

There were other lads playing who also went on to play for league clubs, Jason Koumas being one, but Gerrard stood out.

Conversations were of the “Who the fuck is he?” type.

Shortly after, the FA stopped kids associated with professional clubs playing two or sometimes three games in a weekend, which was a good thing really, so we didn’t get to see much more of him but everyone knew who he was.

I don’t think many professional players, let alone Tom Davies, will ever be as good as him.

 

That is actually a very cool story. Bro. 

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3 hours ago, Pistonbroke said:

I have a nice chuckle when I think of the Money Everton have spunked and look at their forwards. 

 

Kean could come good, but not at Everton where he'll become a whipping boy for their frustrations because they don't have any decent strikers to ease the lad in.

 

Tosun is fucking wank, and I said as much when fat Sam lashed out crazy money on him. He was wank at Frankfurt before being fucked off to Turkey. 

 

Niasse is also wank, couldn't even score for Cardiff whilst out on loan.

 

Iwobi is wank, in fact he is that wank they pretend he's a midfielder and shove him out wide left. 

 

Walcott has been dead for years. 

 

Calvert-Lewin, Ok they only paid a few million for this lad, but he isn't even worth that. 

 

 

The only decent forward they have is Richarlison, plus he only looks good when playing in a deeper role, he's wank as a forward. 

And that's not even mentioning the legend that is Sandro Ramirez, who was the best forward on Merseyside before he kicked a ball over here and is currently on loan at Valladolid as he's too shit to get past the luminaries hogging the shirt in the queue in front of him.

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4 hours ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

If you are getting a lot of attention, and want to drop off the radar for a couple of years, it's actually a perfect move. And the start of a great pub question: 'whatever happened to...'

First club to give invisibility cloaks to new players...

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14 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

And that's not even mentioning the legend that is Sandro Ramirez, who was the best forward on Merseyside before he kicked a ball over here and is currently on loan at Valladolid as he's too shit to get past the luminaries hogging the shirt in the queue in front of him.

 

Never heard of the cunt. 

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