Hatem Ben Arfa

[Cardie]

I love the way Rashid argues a point.

 

How many good players do Liverpool have then eh?

 

Lots

 

How many do they have if we take out all the good ones then....well?

 

Guarenteed to win every argument if you rule out everything that disproves your point, you cunning fox you.

[Rashid]

Rafa has other ideas...

 

Liverpool set to snap up Malouda from Chelsea for £10m | the Daily Mail

[Thants]

Right so ignore our potentials that are already bedded into a system and talk about another potential that isnt? You go ahead.

[Cardie]

The Daily Mail has other ideas.

[Rashid]

I love the way Rashid argues a point.

 

How many good players do Liverpool have then eh?

 

Lots

 

How many do they have if we take out all the good ones then....well?

 

Guarenteed to win every argument if you rule out everything that disproves your point, you cunning fox you.

 

How many attacking players in FOUR years have been an unquestionable success?

[RedinSweden]

"But reports in The Sun suggest Benitez plans to move Ryan Babel to a more natural position on the right or behind Fernando Torres to free up the left attacking-midfield slot."

 

Did you actually read the article Rashid?

[Cardie]

Depends, am I discussing this with a rational person or you?

[Rashid]

Depends, am I discussing this with a rational person or you?

 

I am irrational...so imagine you are discussing it with someone rational. It would be good to hear who you think is an "unquestionable success"... reel out the names mate... let's see your standards.

[Ritchi3]

Rafa has other ideas...

 

Liverpool set to snap up Malouda from Chelsea for £10m | the Daily Mail

 

Why you posting shite like that?

[PaulMcC]

Can't believe he's that good if he's a sub for Lyon.

[Ritchi3]

Ahhh and I just tried to neg him for posting a sun rumour and accidentally done approve, ahhhhh!

[Maldini]

It just proves a point that even when a player wants to go somewhere, money talks. We can outbid Arsenal for Ben Arfa like we did for Babel last summer.

 

Good point, apart from the fact that Arsenal never made a bid for Babel.

[Cardie]

I am irrational...so imagine you are discussing it with someone rational. It would be good to hear who you think is an "unquestionable success"... reel out the names mate... let's see your standards.

 

That's the problem Rash, who are you comparing them with?

 

Players at the club already, the player of the year, Ronaldo this season?

 

If you were comparing them with ROnaldo for example then you coulld say the only attacking signings that have come close for any team are Adebayor and Torres.

[TheViper]

Much more talent than Pires for sure

 

Are you joking? Pires was absolutely immense. If he became as good then Arsenal have will have a superstar in the making. I really hate missing out on great young players, and will be really, really pissed off if he ends up in North London. We are really crying out for a player with his attributes - at £11m he is certainly worth the risk that he might not develop as expected, as if he did we would reap the benefits.

[Rashid]

It's fair to do a generic evaluation - a good way is to see how well they have done in comparison to the cost to the club...

 

Has Kuyt been a £10m striker?

Has Pennant been a £7m winger

Has Crouch been a £7m striker?

Has Babel been a £11m winger? (Rafa said he has been bought for the wing when he first signed)

 

That's £35m there... ie less than the cost of Ronaldo and Nistellroy....

 

But it doesn't end there... you have to add expectations of a "Liverpool" player into the mix too... I am not impressed with Rafa's attacking signings but obviously many of you are so we will probably have to agree to disagree.

[Ritchi3]

Why you posting shite like that?

 

?

[Thants]

Has Kuyt been a £10m striker? YES

Has Pennant been a £7m winger? NO

Has Crouch been a £7m striker? GOD YES

Has Babel been a £11m winger? GIVE HIM A FUCKING CHANCE

[Dublin Red]

He has had ONE top notch success in Torres, the jury is out on the rest no matter how you dress it up mate. The fact that after FOUR years you are suggesting 3 young reserves as a "future success" just about proves my point.

 

But I refuse to have these idiotic argumengts over excuses for Rafa...

 

Let's get back to Ben Arfa.

 

 

 

Let me get this straight. You are slating our manager AGAIN because he hasn't signed an unproven young player who isn't good enough to get into Lyon's fucking 1st team ?

[PaulMcC]

10 goals for a winger isn't bad so i think Babel has proven he will be value for money.

 

Crouch definitely worth 7m.

 

Pennant isn't.

[Bourbon]

Wanting to sign glitzy, exotic substitutes from/posting You tube clips, regardless of the, being the opposite type of player and price the Club's legendary manager has ever signed.

Reading/quoting articles from The Sun.

Rating players worth, ability and contribution by applying their contract price to them.

 

OOT shite par excellence is around Liverpool Football Club more than ever these days.

[Falla]

I'd prefer Arfa Daley.

[Cardie]

Rash just has a fetish for footballing types with three names

 

Hatem Ben Arfa

Henk Ten Catte

Ricardo Cunt Quaresma

[Rashid]

Rash just has a fetish for footballing types with three names

 

Hatem Ben Arfa

Henk Ten Catte

Ricardo Cunt Quaresma

 

That made me laugh, nice one.

 

You skipped naming the unquestionable successes mate?

[Cardie]

No I didn't, I left it in your court to tell me what you set the target as.

 

Thant's summed it up though.

[KevieG]

Is the oppostion here to Ben Arfa the player or the fact that Rashid has recommended him?

Play the ball lads.

 

As I've said, i've seen a bit of him and he looks like just the type of player we are missing, he can actually control and run with the ball which is something neither of our first choice widemen can do. Ferguson if I remember singled him out as one of Lyons two best players before their tie with them. I see it this way, if Ronaldo played with us, we'd be champions this year. This lad is the type of player we should be trying to unearth and give us that something extra as he has it in him to make that kind of step up. If he is available at 11 million we should be in for him.