Alfie's Army

[Charles Penrose]

Worked out alright for this chap

You’d have to put nachos in that wouldn’t you?

[stringvest]

You’d have to put nachos in that wouldn’t you?

You could dip them in it

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

If he had kids on science day he'd be a great Volcano.

[Oh Buoy]

A decent Twitter thread from a medical professional outlining that, despite what's happened recently, he's still an extremely ill child.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/juniordrblog/status/988759669803048960

 

Good summary that. 

 

I didn't realise that it could be that rare. 

[Section_31]

I've had to delete Facebook because morons are pissing me off so much with this shit!

 

"Parent always know best"

 

I'm sorry, but that argument didn't work for Josef Fritzl and it won't work for you!

You shouldn't have deleted Facebook you should have deleted them. I enforce strict quality control on mine these days.

[Aventus]

You’d have to put nachos in that wouldn’t you?

Racist.

 

Just because a man looks a bit Hispanic doesn't mean we should immediately think about putting nachos on his head.

 

You should send him a sombrero as an apology.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

High Court appear to rule out transfer to Rome, but have asked Alder Hey to consider allowing the child to be taken home.

 

That seems a fairly sensible compromise. But, is dependant on the parents abandoning the Rome/miracle cure fallacy.

[Oh Buoy]

High Court appear to rule out transfer to Rome, but have asked Alder Hey to consider allowing the child to be taken home.

 

That seems a fairly sensible compromise. But, is dependant on the parents abandoning the Rome/miracle cure fallacy.

 

Win for everyone that. 

 

AH can put this headache to bed while the parents pretend they just want him home* 

 

 

*whilst they wait for the Italian government to fund/organise their immigration package so the Pope can do the work of God.

[Fabio]

High Court appear to rule out transfer to Rome, but have asked Alder Hey to consider allowing the child to be taken home.

 

That seems a fairly sensible compromise. But, is dependant on the parents abandoning the Rome/miracle cure fallacy.

If the parents could be trusted not to do anything daft (like try and drive him to the Vatican), i have no issues at all.

[Lee909]

Unless its written that they cannot take the child out the country then thats what they will do. It will lead to more people pulling stunts when they dont agree with the doctors

[Anny Road]

Let them go

[Oh Buoy]

https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday/status/988827302271340546

 

I think that's a really saddening quote. 

 

Doctors fearing (and probably questioning) whether what they have done is prone to legal action. 

 

That's the message this has sent out. Doctors (and medical staff) who put their all in to care for these children are worrying about legal action despite having only the best interests at heart. So, what happens when Doctors refuse to treat a child because of the threats and abuse they get for going one of the hardest jobs in this profession? 

 

What a complete fucking joke. 

[Creator Supreme]

https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday/status/988827302271340546

 

I think that's a really saddening quote.

 

Doctors fearing (and probably questioning) whether what they have done is prone to legal action.

 

That's the message this has sent out. Doctors (and medical staff) who put their all in to care for these children are worrying about legal action despite having only the best interests at heart. So, what happens when Doctors refuse to treat a child because of the threats and abuse they get for going one of the hardest jobs in this profession?

 

What a complete fucking joke.

Did you read some of the cretinous tweets in reply?

 

I am genuinely hoping for an extinction level event in the near future because we are a truly hopeless species!

 

The human race has no redeeming features, not a single one!

[Special K]

Did you read some of the cretinous tweets in reply?

 

I am genuinely hoping for an extinction level event in the near future because we are a truly hopeless species!

 

The human race has no redeeming features, not a single one!

I just shook my head at practically every single reply.

 

I agree. Bring on the Armageddon

[Creator Supreme]

Are they still wanting volunteers to go to Mars? I'm game.

[Strontium]

The boy has no brain, a trait he obviously shares with most of his supporters.

[littletedwest]

The boy has no brain, a trait he obviously shares with most of his supporters.

Probably has more brain activity than a large number of them

[Oh Buoy]

New: Alfie Evans family has lost its legal challenge to fly him to Italy for treatment in what judge calls the “final chapter in the case of this extraordinary little boy”

[Rico1304]

I’ve spent the afternoon lazily arguing with Ben Shapiro fans.

 

No acknowledgement that as he’s poor he’d have been dead months ago.

[sir roger]

On a side issue , how are these bogus-lawyers getting allowed all of these reviews & High Court rulings basically by saying ' We don't agree with your previous ruling can we have another one ? '

[G Richards]

Didn’t know about this case, just spent a few minutes reading through this thread. Sad business all round, and it sounds like the idiots outside Alder Hey made a bad situation worse.

 

My own tuppence worth, without knowing the full detail, is that if the hospital says it has done all it can and their prescribed course is to turn off life support and offer palliative care until death runs its course, that should be respected. Lots of people face that heartbreaking situation and find a way to grieve, with dignity, and in private. Nobody wants it, but death is a part of life.

 

If you get a rare case, like this one, where the parents, on behalf of their baby, want another ‘roll of the dice’ so to speak, because someone else is willing to offer further treatment at their expense, the parents should be allowed to pursue that option. Careful thought should be given as to the mechanism of moving the child from the care of A to B, and the possible legal ramifications, but that shouldn’t be beyond us to work out.

 

The original hospital is protected, the parents are allowed to continue to try to fight for life, and if someone else is willing to foot the bill (or indeed the parents themselves) then they should be allowed to exhaust every option that is open to them.

[Lee909]

Don't agree on the whole there

The doctors have a duty of care to the patient not the parents and if they feel it futile and is causing suffering then they must fight these things imo. 

The issue here too is that the clinic in Rome is not offering another option but just to keep him alive for a unspecified amount of time. Being kept on life support with no hope of a cure(there is no cure for brain trauma like this) then all you are doing is continuing suffering

[Charles Penrose]

Don't agree on the whole there

The doctors have a duty of care to the patient not the parents and if they feel it futile and is causing suffering then they must fight these things imo.

The issue here too is that the clinic in Rome is not offering another option but just to keep him alive for a unspecified amount of time. Being kept on life support with no hope of a cure(there is no cure for brain trauma like this) then all you are doing is continuing suffering

The parental rights argument isn’t a good one. Normally you’ll find parents whose opinions will align with medical professionals; we generally tend to take the word of a doctor but denial is a stage of grief for a reason.

 

Unfortunately when we care about someone or something all objective opinion goes out of the window. It happens from peoples pets just as it does to to their house parents and kids and it cannot be allowed for someone to suffer just to satisfy a desperate parents inability to accept loss.

 

Throw in the religious argument into the equation and it can get very messy.

[Spy Bee]

Off Facebook

 

 

if this hospital refuses Alfie to go after him fighting all these hours alone then you need to ask yourself How did hospitals become so powerful?

And the biggest question you need to ask yourself is..
why is the hospital so adamant about keeping the child in their custody? Are they covering up a mistake? Or have they sold his body to research?

be very careful with your children and whom you trust. Then ask yourselves how he developed this neurological condition in the first place. He was born a healthy normal growing child!! When did he last receive vaccines?

Alfie's issues started around the same time as his baby vaccines. His issues started with seizures...typical side effect of vaccines!!

people keep asking why the hospital doesn't just let him go...good question. Here is one MAIN theroy i think is questionable the parents have photographed bruises and blood marks on Alfie while he's been under hospital custody. So there is the possibility he was used for medical research. That's one reason hospitals take parents to court to get custody...and once they have it, they can do whatever procedures they want.

And to complete research, they have to have the body for autopsy. But they can't do that if another hospital has him...or if he recovers. Medical research is a BILLION pound business. Why this theory...because the hospital is very adamant he stays with them!!

This has recently happened in australia and been uncovered!!!
#LearnTheRIsk #Alfie #saveourchildren #medicalMURDER

 

Fuck me!

[Dr Nowt]

“Or have they sold his body to research?”