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  1. Really hard to sit through this. As if our own performance wasn’t infuriating enough, we had to endure the full shithouse repertoire of Neymar & co. It was a horrible game of football. The Champions League brought so much joy for us last season but it’s been mostly miserable this year, away from home anyway. We’ve been good at Anfield so that give us hope of still progressing to the knockouts, but there’s major cause for concern now as we’ve had three defeats on our travels and not one of them was undeserved. Not good enough, simple as that. I don’t know why we’ve been so shit, but it isn’t bad luck. We’ve just not been good enough. This loss in isolation is fine as there’s no shame in being beaten by PSG in Paris. The real damage was done in Belgrade, and to a slightly lesser extent in Naples, but because of that we needed a better effort in this game and we didn’t get it. It was fucking tame. We didn’t start well and PSG had more intensity about them. They did to us what we were doing to everyone in last year’s run to the final. Intense pressing, snapping into tackles and breaking with pace. We used to be like that. Now we’re just plodding and pedestrian and really easy to play against. Where's the spark? The energy? The speed? I mentioned in the Watford report that there seems to have been a deliberate shift in our play. Basically we’ve slowed down. We’re more methodical and patient and it’s paid off in the sense that we don’t let goals in anymore (at least not domestically), but now I’m worried that we might not be able to just flick the switch and go back to the other style when we need it. We’re no longer in those mental end to end basketball type games but we’ve lost something because of that. When we needed to step it up in this game and play like we did last year, we couldn’t do it. It was plodding, pass pass pass, sideways and backwards. How many chances did we create? I don’t remember Buffon having to make a save of any note. It was depressing to see and let’s not sugarcoat it just because we love them, the front three are a problem right now. Bobby was fucking woeful, Mo wasn’t much better and Sadio wasn’t great either, although he was easily the pick of the three. It’s happened too many times this season. A lot of us have been focussing on the 4-2-3-1 as possibly being part of the problem. Clearly it isn't, as this was the 4-3-3 set up that has served us so well, and it still didn't look right. Mo was back on the right and he was garbage. Bobby was back up top and was even worse than he's been when playing as the ten. As ineffective as the forwards were (bit harsh on Mané perhaps), the midfield was the bigger issue. Gini got booked early on (some classic Neymar playacting) and he never really recovered. He couldn’t play with the aggression we needed and there was too much time and space for their creative players. Milner had plenty of aggression and was tackling as though his life depended on it. Di Maria and Neymar were on the receiving end of some typically hefty ‘hard but fair’ Milner challenges, but he was fighting a lone battle as PSG were just slicing through our midfield with one touch passing. Henderson was like a training cone in the first half. They were just passing around him with ease. It’s hard when Neymar and Mbappe are playing one touch and turning the corner, but there was too much space for them and Hendo was really exposed time and again. They kept getting turned and running at us and when that happens it’s always dangerous because of the speed and quality they have. That’s how both of their goals came and they had other situations that could also have ended up in the net. I thought Van Dijk could have done better on the first and several players could have done better on the second. We don’t get cut open like that often and although you could argue that's because we don’t face the likes of Mbappe and Neymar very often, it’s more than that. We’ve faced Silva, Sane, De Bruyne and Aguero plenty of times and they didn’t do it (except in that lopsided game when Sadio was sent off), so I’d say it’s more about what we did than what they did. The shape didn’t look right in the first half. There was no deep lying midfielder and to me it often looked like we just had three lines. The back four, the midfield three and the forwards. Often when we play, you’d struggle to identify the formation as the movement is so fluid all around the pitch. The amount of times I saw the midfield three in a straight line really stood out to me though, as its not something I’ve ever really noticed before. When that happens it’s easy to find space ‘between the lines’ as managers always say. Neymar would come deep, pop the ball off and get the return pass and leave our midfield for dead. If it wasn’t Neymar doing it, it was Mbappe or Verratti. We were chasing shadows. That never happens. We’ve played loads of boss teams in the last year or so and we’ve been an absolute fucking nightmare for them. We make good teams look average. Now we’re making average teams look good. Ok PSG are above average but I won’t have it that they are a top team because they’re not. Last season we'd have fucking smashed them. They played well in this game because they were clearly massively up for it. At Anfield they were lazy, ill disciplined and played as individuals. They obviously learned from that because there was more unity about them and you could see how fired up they all were. It looked like they wanted it more than we did, but a big part of the problem was the shithousery and how we were unable to handle it. “Negative aggression” was how Klopp referred to it. I assume he meant that we grew frustrated by their antics and ended up giving away silly fouls because of it. PSG are just the absolute fucking worst though. Real Madrid on fucking steroids. They represent everything that’s wrong with football, on and off the pitch. As much as I have a beef with Man City and their antics, at least on the pitch there’s not much to criticise them for. They play the game the right way and other than Sterling’s penchant for diving there’s really not much to criticise them for. PSG though, fucking hell. What a bunch of horrible, cheating, arrogant, playacting bellends. The ref was in over his head and had no idea how to deal with it. In fairness to him, there were a number of occasions when they tried to buy a cheap foul and he waved it away, much to the fury of the crowd, so I don’t think he was biased, he was just not very good. The ref is an easy target but it’s really difficult when players are carrying on like this. Some of them are fouls, some aren’t, but being able to tell the difference all the time is a fucking job and a half, and this fella just wasn't up to it. While it’s easy to slag refs off for not being able to deal with it, the real issue here is that they shouldn’t have to. Players are acting like cunts. That’s the problem. And because of this ‘superstar’ culture we live in, Neymar is allowed to act the way he does without any kind of negative impact on his career. He’ll be on the cover of FIFA, the endorsements will keep rolling in, he gets the ridiculous salary and swans around like he’s God’s gift to footy. Why should he stop acting like a twat, he's been handsomely rewarded for it. The truly great players don't need to do that, but then he's not a great player. He’s got the same arrogance and self indulgence as Ronaldo yet he’s done fuck all to earn it. Ronaldo is as vain as any man on the planet, but you know something, given everything he’s achieved he can pretty much act how he likes as he’s earned the right. And he doesn't act anywhere near as much of a twat as Neymar does. The fuck has he ever done? Over-rated preening little cunt. Any worthwhile success he's had has come from riding the coat tails of Messi and Suarez. It’s so frustrating when he’s rolling around trying to get players booked and sent off and the refs are obliging him, but all the criticism of the official misses the point. The issue here is Neymar and some of his team-mates acting like cunts and people blaming the ref for it. Yeah he was shite and in over his head, but if someone bludgeons your mate over the head with a hammer and the doctor isn't skilled enough to save him, would you blame the doctor? If players play the game the right way and the ref is still fucking things up, that’s on him. When they’re doing what Neymar and co are doing it makes the referees job that much harder. That being said, I’ve always been of the mindset that if I were a ref and I saw the shit Neymar was pulling, I’d never give him any decision no matter what defenders did to him. Its easy to say that of course but when refs are being assessed on their performance they can’t just say “fuck this clown, I’m giving him nothing”. So there are some mitigating circumstances for a lot of things the ref got wrong. However, he was right on the spot and had a perfect view of Verratti’s lunge on Gomez. He had the yellow card out before Joe had even hit the floor, which tells me that he already knew beforehand he wasn’t going to be red carding anyone unless he really had to. Verratti figured it out pretty quickly too as he was just running around fouling people for the rest of the night. Staggering really, the ref could not have had a better view of what was a horrible tackle and yet he dished out the same punishment as he was giving our lads for little trips and shirt pulls. It doesn’t help either when PSG players are surrounding him bitching about every fucking decision he makes. That comes from that fucking wrong un on the touchline though. I don’t care much for Thomas Tuchel. There’s a nonce vibe about him and I’m surprised that him and Klopp didn’t come to blows given the way he was acting all game, berating the ref over clear cut decisions. Klopp was kicking off too, but he had a legitimate gripe and was arguing over clear cut decisions the official got wrong. Tuchel was going to war over fucking throw ins and shit, the fucking bellend. I mean look at their reaction to the penalty. Stonewall pen, absolutely no doubt about it whatsoever, yet it was about five minutes between the foul and the spot kick. Tuchel was acting the cunt and his players were harassing the ref and doing all they could to delay the taking of the kick and put pressure on Milner. Big Games James held his nerve admirably though, and the lifeline ought to have been enough to spark a second half onslaught. It never did though. PSG seemed content to settle for what they had and they allowed us to have a lot of the ball, but we did fuck all with it. I thought it got a little better when Naby came on and then a little worse when Sturridge and Shaqiri came on. The only hope we had was that Mane and Robertson might carve something out down the left, because no other area of the side were offering any threat whatsoever. And how shit were our set-pieces? That's not acceptable at all. If you're not playing well then set plays are a great opportunity to steal a cheap goal, but ours were brutal all night. The loss itself doesn’t bother me much at all. It was always going to the final game anyway, we know that. It wouldn’t be Liverpool if we qualified with plenty to spare and were able to rest people for a dead rubber. We couldn’t even manage that last year when we were in a shite group, so defeat in Paris was almost a foregone conclusion. The way we lost was massively disheartening though. I’d have been ok with us losing a shoot out. Had it ended 3-2 or 4-3 with chances at both ends and us just being edged out, that would have been sound. I could have taken a lot from that because it would have suggested we were getting our mojo back and that it just wasn't our night. As it is, there is quite literally nothing positive to take from this at all, other than the fact at least we didn’t allow that fraud Cavani to get on the scoresheet. Our form over the three away games in Europe has been risible. We’ve barely even been able to muster a fucking shot on target. These are the same players who broke the record for the most goals in a Champions League campaign last season and now they can barely do a thing right in attack. I still think we’ll go through because when we need a result at Anfield we tend to get it. It’d be nice to do it the easy way just once though wouldn’t it? The only thing I can cling to is maybe we need one of "those European nights" to get us going again and to start playing like we can. Star man is Andy Robbo, who was great. His defending was brilliant, he got forward loads and he even made his way over to the opposite flank just so he could boot Neymar in stoppage time. Probably not the smartest move as it allowed them to waste more time, but I can’t have a go at him for that given that I know I’d be doing a hell of a lot worse to the preening little fucking show pony if I’d been out there. Team: Alisson; Gomez, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson; Henderson, Wijnaldum (Keita), Milner (Shaqiri); Salah, Firmino (Sturridge), Mané:
    6 points
  2. As you can see, there's a vas deferens between all the options.
    6 points
  3. Unexpected, but thanks for the compliment.
    6 points
  4. In the Pub the other day I was telling that old joke about what do you do if you see an epileptic having a fit in the bath? Answer: Throw in your washing. We were all having a good laugh about this when this big bastard tapped me on the shoulder and said '' I don’t find that very funny. My brother was an epileptic and he died in the bath during a fit'' I said '' Sorry mate did he drown?'' “No” he said ……….'' he choked on a sock ''
    4 points
  5. Fella on the corner of North St John St/Lord St in Liverpool. Gave him a couple of quid and he had a box of sweets and offered me some because he said he didn't want something for nothing. I didn't take any but walked away with tears in my eyes.
    4 points
  6. he may be fantastic in the dressing room and monging in front of the cameras at a children's hospital, but he's fucking useless on the pitch. He wins joint least inspirational captain with that twat off the Costa Concordia.
    4 points
  7. I still maintain that the midfield set-up is the biggest hindrance to our performances in Europe. The trio of Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum have occasionally proved effective but right now, away from home, there isn't enough invention and control of midfield from them, nor is there the nous to protect the defence from being got at. Napoli, Red Star and PSG have all managed to completely dominate us in midfield. Our forwards have become isolate and end up seeking space very wide (Mane in particular, and Salah occasionally) or dropping very deep (Firmino). It leaves our forwards too far apart and with nobody making dangerous runs beyond them, they become isolated and/or try to do too much on their own.
    3 points
  8. Because he had absolutely no option there unless he just stopped and held his head in his hands, crying. Which would not have surprised me.
    3 points
  9. Of course not - but did Gerrard have a long line of beige, nothing performances behind him. Gerrard led by example, led the team win or lose and showed the balls required for the job. Henderson is invisible as a leader, largely mediocre as a footballer and has nowhere near the kind of credit in the bank that Stevie had when he did throw in a bad performance.
    3 points
  10. Not sure why people call it "dreaded Europa League" I'd be fucking made up if we won it.
    3 points
  11. Its been a shocking campaign, we look really clueless away from home. That fucking midfield - i'd be very interested to read any kind of reasoned defence of it, because to me it is killing us.
    3 points
  12. There's a Russian guy who works in our office. Every Mon and Weds fruit gets delivered to the office for staff to take as they wish. This dude is usually in early on Mon and Weds and often takes shit loads and puts it in his desk drawers for the week ahead and thinks nobody has ever noticed him. Last week, one of the Polish guys who is moving job next week took a stand. It must have been bothering him and building up inside and as he was leaving, he probably decided 'fuck it'. So as Russian lad went to the toilet, Polish lad went to his desk and took all the fruit out. Bananas, mandarins and plums - not sure how many exactly but there was a good amount. He pushed back his keyboard and laid the fruit out in the shape of a cock. When Russian dude came back he wasn't a happy camper and started looking at everyone to see who to blame. It was hilarious. If he knew who did it I reckon he defo would have punched him. He stormed out of the office for a good 40 mins before returning. I don't think he'll take as much fruit in future... Just thought I'd share that, ye know, Russians.
    3 points
  13. Sun - Cat Power I fancy Cat Power so I may be a bit biased on this review. Having spent most of my allocated time to listen to this, listening to her new album ‘Wanderer’ I’m a bit later than I anticipated with this review. So here goes. Cherokee - A nice soft and gentle opening. I like Cat’s vocal melodies and overlaying on all her stuff. This is a nice intro track and has a lot, yet subtle, additional elements in it that add the beef to it. I think this would would work just as well as a vocal and piano track. Sun - Album’s title track. Bit of an acid/techno vibe running softly in the background. Feels a bit of a step into modern Mark Lanegan. Some nice melodies in both the guitar chord progressions with Cat’s (on first name terms me) vocals. Another nice and mellow ideal for a sunset or Sunday late morning early afternoon listening. Ruin - I like this one. Her vocal layering is great again. I like the pattern she sings too. Again everything is soft and gentle on the ears, even though intention gets ramped up a bit it’s not overbearing. Sounds like a lot of stuff that has preceded and you’ll find on 6Music. 3,6,9 - Another catchy little vocal pattern. One thing I don’t like that Cat uses is that bloody vocal shifter effect. It’s straight out the Victoria Beckham/Dane Bowers book of complete fuckwittery. Besides that small issue, Always On My Own - Bit of moodier one this. Reminds me of a slower version Lykki Li “I’m Good, I’m Gone” crossed with a tiny bit of Portishead. Real Life - There’s that acid/techno vibe. Listening to this makes me yearn (seriously? Yearn?) for her to do something with Mark Lanegan. I think their voices would compliment each other excellently. Human Being - A bit of a Joy Division vibe at the start of this. Then she brings in her honey like vocals. Dark feel to this one with a positive spin. One of my favourites off the album. Manhattan - Got a film soundtrack vibe to it this. Played over of reflection about friendship/love. Silent Machine - Ooohh a bit of electric guitar. Defo should be doing something with Lanegan. She sounds dead sexy on this one. Got a The Kills vibe going on. Obviously not Alison Mossheart levels of power, more the mellower, quieter sister. Nothin But Time - Electro with some piano start. End of a film being imagined listening to this. Bit of a spiritual feeling to it. It’s nice while not mind blowing. Peace And Love - Boss bit of guitar at the start. And a drummer. Feels like it’s the gentle offspring of ‘Kashmir’ by Led Zep. Her vocal pattern is boss again. Really dig this one. Overall, it’s a decent album that is very listenable and easy on the ear. I really like her voice and vocal patterns and melodies. One thing that lets her down is that I feel there is another gear/level that she could push herself vocally. More power in the music; it’s all pretty much the same style/tempo/level (which she does well). I’m gonna give it 7.03/10. Enjoyable, easy to listen to, just leaves me wanting a bit more from her at the end especially when Peace And Love comes on.
    3 points
  14. He is a shithouse coward of the highest order. I can't believe what Klopp sees in him. The Ardja brigade will be out defending him soon. Fucking shithouse of a captain and as a player. Think he's actually regressed since joining. He is probably a nice guy and does alot of running in training, but as a footballer at this level he can fuck right out of the club and go back to Sunderland. Did I say shithouse ?, he makes me puke. Fucking nivea poster boy joke.
    3 points
  15. That's all well and good, but how are we meant to call each other cunts if we all agree?
    3 points
  16. At least six of those are the names of Rees Mogg's kids.
    2 points
  17. Excellent work all! Scrotally brilliant
    2 points
  18. Excellent. I'm backing a people's scrote.
    2 points
  19. Bring Trent back in at RB, Keita for Henderson. 2-0 to us.
    2 points
  20. Some on here are experts.
    2 points
  21. Don’t fancy us at all. The balance of power is shifting. They been getting players from Barca whilst we’ve been shopping from Stoke FFS. They own the fucking Liver Birds. They own the City. Usmanov and his billions is the man behind all this. How the fuck can we compete with that?
    2 points
  22. How does a man who adamantly denies placing the one bet he's been accused of betting make it onto a list of famous gamblers? And it's F******l on the GF. And it mentions that odious prick Merson. Cunt thread all round.
    2 points
  23. A really good lad I knew died a year or so back on the streets, he came from an iffy family but he was a genuine kid, drugs got him in the end. Use to see him regularly begging and despite offers from many of shelter etc he was adamant he was ok. I would give him money despite knowing where it was going and I regret it.
    2 points
  24. Give arDja his due credit. He’s spent most of his life savings buying overpriced London breakfasts so he can review them for us. He deserves some acknowledgement.
    2 points
  25. He might well have described the whole situation and outcry as an epidemic, but I’d be surprised if he called it an epidemic that people are becoming transgender. For me, he makes a lot of good points, obvious but good. On other subjects I don’t doubt he could be a cunt, I just haven’t seen it. As far as his opinions on this subject go I think he’s pretty sensible, from what I’ve seen, and has more of an issue about freedom of speech being curtailed, rather than hating trans people. Is there anything you can easily point to that would demonstrate his twatishness. If it’s out there, I’d like to stop calling him sensible.
    2 points
  26. 2 points
  27. Maybe they are capable of differentiating between various opinions and points he makes, rather than dismissing him and other people on the grounds of their ideological profile?
    2 points
  28. Pretty sure they're in their own category for water sports, at least on certain websites.
    2 points
  29. If you get him in the office Secret Santa, may I suggest a copy of The Grapes of Wrath.
    2 points
  30. 2 points
  31. Late 2nd half: Silva "hurts" his head when falling to ground. He's outside the sideline so the ref correctly lets play go on. Seeing that, Silva walks on to the pitch again and lay down there instead. Play stops so that he can receive medic care, after all it's a "head injury" we’re talking about. Ref accepts these actions and 2 mins run off the clock. Our players “sportingly” returns the ball to PSG when play eventually starts again. How the f*** can this happen?
    2 points
  32. I was talking to my bird about the Beatles a while back and I started to talk about Stuart Sutcliffe and after a few minutes of me talking she said “you’d think more would be said about The Yorkshire Ripper once being in The Beatles”. with that, my vote is for Stuart Sutcliffe.
    2 points
  33. Shit tissues. We normally keep a box in the living room but we ran out a few days ago. I had to nip in the corner shop this morning anyway and I noticed they had some on offer. 50p for a box or two for a pound. Never one to miss out on a bargain, I picked up the two boxes. As it happens I’ve got a runny nose today so I tried one of these tissues. Fucking woeful. I’ve never known anything like it. Couldn’t even withstand one nose blow before it fell to bits. I reckon you’d need, and this is a conservative estimate, at least 15 of them if you were planning a wank.
    2 points
  34. Couldn't imagine this happening not only nowadays but over the last 20 years in which a player who's been slagged off gets a chance to come on and defend himself against the bloke who's been having a pop.
    2 points
  35. I absolutely hate Anthea Turner. I'd put her with Jamie Theakston, Fearne Cotton and most of the history of the cast of EastEnders as being guaranteed just horrible horrible people.
    2 points
  36. All us remainers are asking for is a little R.E.S.P.E.C.T. Just like Urethra Franklin.
    1 point
  37. Naby Keita completed more dribbles in the last 20 minutes against PSG, than Jordan Henderson, James Milner and Gini Wijnaldum managed all game.
    1 point
  38. Have you actually watched this clip?
    1 point
  39. You’ve snogged worse when you were drunk in your younger days....
    1 point
  40. That was an absolutely infuriating watch. We seemed to start the game in a coma and were second to everything. Both goals were just so avoidable. There seemed to be a brief period at the start of the second half where it looked like we were up for it, but it quickly disintegrated after a succession of bad decisions and sloppy balls in the final third and the last half hour was just incredibly passive. The players looked like they'd accepted defeat. That ref didn't help either. Verrati should have been off and I'm struggling to recall a time where I've got more annoyed with a ref when it looked like he wasn't going to give one of the most obvious penalties ever for the foul on Mane. His assistants bailed him out that time but he was so inept/bent throughout the game that it was hard not to laugh at some of his decisions. This current PSG side have got to be one of the most dislikeable teams I can remember seeing. A whiny bitch of a manager (he was exactly the same when his Dortmund team played us), their players rolling around and feigning injury at every opportunity, the constant moaning to the ref and the actual nerve of making out they'd been hard done to with the penalty decision, 2 of their defenders celebrating getting a lucky ricochet off Salah going out for a goal kick as though they'd just won the Champions League … the list just goes on. I'm still not having that they're any good either. Had we played anything like last season, we'd have absolutely battered them. They'll go out early on in the knockout stages again. I guess it's still in our hands at least. Beat Napoli by 2 goals. and we're through. It certainly won't be easy. Napoli look a decent team. They were worthy winners against us in Naples and from what I've heard dominated both games against PSG. We need the Liverpool attack of last season to return as they seem to have been replaced by a bunch of lookalikes with nothing like the same ability or desire. We can't really have any complaints if we go out. We've been atrocious in all 3 away games and lucky that results have panned out elsewhere in a way that still gives us a chance.
    1 point
  41. First things first. The referee was so awful it's amazing he actually never awarded Neymar a penalty. He missed the blatant one for us despite being in a better position than the touchline official, and thankfully the official actually did something useful and informed him that there had indeed been a foul on Mane. The ref was allowing PSG to get away with their shithouse antics all evening, and failed to send Verratti off for a dreadful challenge on Gomez in the first half. I'll touch upon that again shortly. Thiago Silva is an excellent defender but he goes down 'injured' at least half a dozen times a game. Which brings me to another point. Yet again we failed to be streetwise. It needed some shithousery from our players to let PSG know they were not going to have it all their own way. Gomez should have made a meal of Verratti's challenge. We needed to be in the refs ear just as much as PSG were. We needed to dive around whenever we were anywhere near a challenge with Silva just to put doubt in the ref's mind. It's little things like that - unpalatable as they are - that often make the difference in these big games. We really need to wise up to it. Which leads me onto my next bugbear, and that's the midfield. For the love of god Jurgen, please do not pick these 3 in an away game again. It's making our attack look shit because it lacks the guile to create anything so they have to do it all themselves. It's not shielding the defence properly because they can be played through by passing and movement. With Henderson in the deep-lying role, Wijnaldum is ineffective because he is caught in a role that negates everything he is good at. Until PSG took Cavani and Mbappe off because they'd settled for 2-1, Henderson did absolutely nothing with the ball. Time and again when we had it and were looking for options, he was never in a position where he could receive it and play an effective forward pass. Milner seemed to be having one of those games where everything he did was on the stretch. If bypassed, he was out of the game. We were not quite as bad as we had been in Naples and Belgrade, but our away form in Europe is cause for alarm. For me, the midfield trio of Henderson, Milner and Wilnaldum is the biggest reason as to why. Keita hadn't had a good game when picked to start at Napoli, but when he was subbed early after getting injured, Klopp reverted to the ineffective trio once more. It simply doesn't work, so he needs to start putting more faith in Keita, Fabinho and Shaqiri for midfield roles. Up front, Firmino really looked off the boil. There was a slackness about his play that meant he couldn't link up with either Salah or Mane, which made those two less effective. I can understand us using Firmino because he is more physical than our other forwards, but maybe we needed a different approach, I don't know. People will now big up the Anfield factor for the final game, but we've been in this position of needing a win in our final group game in the Champions League several times (ALWAYS the season after we entered it without needing to play qualifying games first) and fallen short. Basel twice and once against Fiorentina. Of course we can still make it but that we mean Napoli drop out in all likelihood, and they've been the best team in the group so far. Go in with a streetwise attitude and we could still reach the knockouts.
    1 point
  42. Weird name for an album, that.
    1 point



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